How Long Will Daniel Craig last as Bond ?
Sweepy the Cat
Halifax, West Yorkshire, EnglaPosts: 986MI6 Agent
I've just been wondering about the near future of bond and Daniel Craig. Also post down whatever you think he may do in the future Bond films eg. Battle Blofed in a YOLT style mission.
I personally think he'll be in 3 because he signed up for 3 and says he doesn't want to do too many. I think they'll all be darker bonds following from the style of CR.
I personally think he'll be in 3 because he signed up for 3 and says he doesn't want to do too many. I think they'll all be darker bonds following from the style of CR.
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Haggis is now just as important as Craig.
...then again if the check is fat enough...
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He'll do his three, for sure...then make BIG $$$ for a fourth. As to a fifth...the future's cloudy... :v
Personally, I'd like to see him break Moore's record B-) But I'm a dreamer; that's what I do.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
What that man said...
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Its not all of a sudden. Some of us thought this backin 1995. The excellence of Daniel Craig has released us from censorship. We can speak freely now.
In HIS opinion he was the best Bond since Connery. He was the "greatest Hits" Bond. He impersonated them all. The elegant growl of Connery, the humour of Moore, and the angst of Dalton (though he never had Tims acting chops).
But what exactly was his Bond?
Even us Brozzer bashers give him credit for this. If his Bond had not worked there could have been trouble ahead. Still don't think it is enough to warrant adulation though..
But not as good as the Cubby/Harry Bonds
Fast cars = an invisible car?
Beautiful girls = two of the worst Jinx and Xmas Jones
Exotic locations = the Brosnan locations lacked colour. In DAD he didnt even go to his locations. Cuba was Cadiz, Iceland was the backlot at Pinewood
Spectacular stunts = he nearly blew the series' credibility with CGI
My rankings for the 21 films
18 = Goldeneye
19 = Tomorrow Never Dies
20 = The World is Not Enough
21 = Die Another Day
None in my top ten.
They all did that. Its called being contemporary..
Vesper Lyna an OK Bond girl? I think history will put her up there with Tracy in years to come. A very deep and three-dimensional woman. Enigmatic, brittle, insecure, and riven with contradictions.
A few good stunts? Lets hope the Palio sequence in Bond 22 is as good as the Crane chase.
Bond didnt need gadgets in this one. It was basically a duel between two men over a gambling table. Q and Miss Moneypenny wernt even missed.
Actually, I think this is what will go down...
I can't speak for everyone, but for me it's hardly "sudden". I enjoyed GE when I first saw it, but that enjoyment stemmed mostly from the fact that at that time it had been so long since there had been a Bond movie, ie., there was nothing about it, or about Brosnan, that I felt was really refreshing, original or amazing. TND I found to be fairly run-of-the mill-- it was the first Bond movie that, after the first viewing, I had no real desire to see again (perhaps because everything within it had already appeared in a previous Bond movie). At that point I openly wondered if I'd at last grown out of Bond. TWINE came out and I only reluctantly went to see it, however, like the rest of the Brosnan movies, I found it rather soulless and uninteresting. The Brosnan movies, like Brosnan himself, didn't bring much new to the table-- they relied on the tried and true formula right to the core and, while entertaining lots of people, they brought nothing new for those of us who had cherished the originality and creativity of many of the earlier movies. I never even saw DAD when it came out-- in fact it was only once CR appeared and reinvigorated the franchise (and my interest in it) that I bothered to go back and watch it (and even then I'm not sure it was a good idea).
I disagree-- Pierce was a reincarnation of Moore, only without Moore's flair for humour and light comedy. Brosnan, like his movies, was a hybrid of everything that came before him. Some might praise this as a virtue, but for me it was the precise reason that his movies have no identity of their own and are therefore quite forgettable.
He brought a new-age sensibility to Bond. I've never agreed that Brosnan didn't have an identity. Although it wasn't as overt as Dalton (thank goodness
I don't agree with that. I actually she was a terrible Bond girl; badly acted, not particularly good looking, completely unemotional at times and I found her to be extremely unconvincing. I don't think she can be compared with Tracy in the slightest. IMO Tracy was one of the all-time great Bond girls; Vesper on the other hand was a Bond girl whom I was extremely happy to see die.
I certainly missed Q and Moneypenny.
I must say, your eloquence in the paragraphs which follow this statement don't exactly buttress your charge of censorship :v
As I've said before...once Craig does his seven pictures (
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Seven?
Merely seeking a Craig 'Yang' to counter the Moore 'Ying' B-)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Fine. Who gets to throw him down the Death Star's reactor shaft?
Sorry Loeffs, but you gave me an opening and I just couldn't resist.
He looked upset a couple of times. Or as much as Brosnan can look upset. Bond should never be "new age" or "touchy feely" its not part of the core of the character.
But you've proved my point "similarly to Connery but not as well.." Was he emulating Connery? If so why wasn't he emulating Pierce Brosnan. He played a cookie cutter Bond but brought nothing new to the table.
But he did inspire a new generation of Bond fans so should be given some credit.
Why? Pray tell?
So the scene where she cracks up in the shower after witnessing a murder was badly acted? So the scene where she throws Bonds ego back in his face after he loses is badly acted? So the scene where she cries with delight when 007 is recovering is badly acted? Were we watching the same film?
Most would disagree. She is currently taken on Carole Bouquets mantles as the face of CHANEL. They don't pick dogs for that. Perhaps you want Pamela Anderson in the title role?
The character of Vesper Lynd can be summed up by one word - "secretative". She has secret after secret piled on there. She hides her emotion so she doesnt give the game away but as the film continues her armour is shorn away just as much as Bonds. And she falls in love just as Bond does.
Ignoring the "tragedy" role that both girls share. Both girls undergo a transformation. Tracy is a neurotic fly by night who changes with love, Vesper is a brittle insecure secretative career girl who changes with love. Can you guess who the catalyst is? And both were played by superb actresses.
They wernt really needed. They would have distracted from the emotional content of the film. OHMSS was better without gadgets, so was FYEO. DAD was sunk by gadgets. And we had Villiers in this one who seemed fresh and inventive after the tired old Q/R/Moneypenny scenes.
FFS. I worked out that the gambling scenes were about forty minutes in a three hour film. They flowed with the plot and built up to a climax. They were easy to follow and the protagonists around the table were all characterised well and the tension came from a turn of a card rather then yet antoher gadget filled car chase.
I'm sorry if my post was forthright and condescending and will edit it forthwith.
Decaf? Don't drink coffee myself. Perhaps if you said take the alcohol out of the beer I might have understood.
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I've already made my Craig tenure prediction (3, maybe 4, 5 is a long shot)...and added my tongue-in-cheek pipe dream (7 to balance out Moore)...but I'll add: Craig can have it for as long as he wants it, as far as I'm concerned :007)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I don't agree that he was playing a cookie cutter Bond, but why does it matter that he wasn't known for something in particular. He was the Garry Sobers of Bonds.
Why ask that when it's obvious that I provide reasons shortly afterwards?
Perhaps we were watching a different film. I don't think she's a particularly talented actress. She comes across as false to me much too much of the time and I never beleieved in her character. Those scenes that you refer to are not IMO examples of her acting ability.
So? This isn't a popularity contest. Do I need to base my view on what the majority of people think? If that were the case, then you have to like Brosnan, as most people at the time liked his films. Furthermore your suggestion of Pamela Anderson (whom I dislike) would also have to be taken up as most people, based on internet polls, seem to think she's good looking. Disagree with me if you like, but don't confuse this for a popularity contest.
Nice.
No, but I do want someone good looking. Are you related to Eva Green? Because based on your response, it seems that you are.
Which I never believed. I was never convinced of her love for Bond in the slightest. I was convinced that Bond felt something for her, but not that she felt something for him. She just came out really false to me, and so I never believed in anything really that she said or did. That was of course when I could actually understand her (her diction was terrible.)
Obviously their characters are very similar, but I wouldn't describe Green as a superb actress. Oh, and, thanks for being condescending. 8-)
I don't agree, Tee Hee did a post on this a while back (in the Bond 22 forum) but I think that they could certainly have been used. I enjoy the Q/Moneypenny scenes and Villiers was not a fresh subsitute IMO. Also, I think that DAD was sunk by the screenplay and OHMSS's brilliance (the same goes for FYEO) had nothing to do with its gagdets or lack thereof. The skiing chases were certainly a major reason for its being a great film.
Well, then we definitely saw another film. I didn't need another gadget filled car chase but I would have loved for a bigger focus on gambling than the film had. I don't think that the film did the gambling justice, either in quality or in quantity.
Dan forgot to mention that the female extra with the wet hair running through the terminal during the airport panic scene -- the second one from the left in the back row, 50-ish, brunette -- was really all wrong for the role. And how about those final credits? what kind of font was that to use? He would have preferred a nice Times New Roman or even a tasteful sans-serif. Who did the typography for Eon? Couldn't they have come up with something better?