There is the exchange with 006 in GE,
"For England, James."
"For England Alec."
Alec, 006, is of Russian background I believe. A "Lienz Cossack" by parentage at that time resident (presumably) in England. Makes him about as English as a man with a Scottish father and a Swiss mother, resident (mainly) in England.
There is the exchange with 006 in GE,
"For England, James."
"For England Alec."
Alec, 006, is of Russian background I believe. A "Lienz Cossack" by parentage at that time resident (presumably) in England. Makes him about as English as a man with a Scottish father and a Swiss mother, resident (mainly) in England.
That is true, but Alec never admits to James that his parents were Lienz cossacks. but then again I think the line is supposed to be ironic, more about the fact that neither Bond or Alec originated from the country that they risk their lives to save.
The "Anglinski spiron" line in From russia with love also fits because for a long time the word england was interchangable with britian, back in the days when we had an empire.
Alec never admits to James that his parents were Lienz cossacks. but then again I think the line is supposed to be ironic, more about the fact that neither Bond or Alec originated from the country that they risk their lives to save.
What's with the xenophobia among the Limeys on here?
I think it has more to do with traditionalism, and national pride than xenophobia, or whether or not an actor can play the part. Now, I may not be an expert on film and acting, but I've never seen an American actor pull off a respectable English accent.
James Bond is a British institution, and the Brits would fight to keep it that way. I can certainly sympathise with that. IMO, casting an American actor in the role would be just wrong. The Bond actor doesn't necessarily have to be English, but he must be British. There's only been two non-Brits to play James Bond so far (Lazenby and Brosnan), one of them lasted only one film.
To be fair, the guy who made one film made the best of them all.
I think you're confused. The person who made GF, Sean Connery, made 6 films, 7 if you include NSNA.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
To be fair, the guy who made one film made the best of them all.
I think you're confused. The person who made GF, Sean Connery, made 6 films, 7 if you include NSNA.
Dan, you should be proud of your fellow Australian. You should be building statues to him and naming buildings after him. He should be your Prime Minister, or your King.
Dan, you should be proud of your fellow Australian. You should be building statues to him and naming buildings after him. He should be your Prime Minister, or your King.
) True. I mean, even though I would have given anything for him to be replaced by a Scotsman (or even an Englishman), I am proud that a countryman starred in of the best Bond films of all time. If he wants to be King, that's fine by me.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Now Willis as Philip Marlowe would be something I'd like to see. Preferably in period.
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"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Just going back on this for a while, John, are you referring to the time when Bond was about to let go of Alec so he can fall to his death? If so, I think the quote went something like this:
Just going back on this for a while, John, are you referring to the time when Bond was about to let go of Alec so he can fall to his death? If so, I think the quote went something like this:
"For England, James?"
"No. For me."
Aye, that's later on though. At the beginning of GE, Alec and Bond are breaking into the Russkie's and they have the "For England" exchange. At the fnale, when Alec asks him again, Bond makes it clear that this time it's personal.
Aye, that's later on though. At the beginning of GE, Alec and Bond are breaking into the Russkie's and they have the "For England" exchange. At the fnale, when Alec asks him again, Bond makes it clear that this time it's personal.
Thanks, that clears it up. I haven't seen GE in ages!
To me, Jane is just a little too muscular, has too much of the typical "action hero" look for Bond. If we have to go with an American actor, I would prefer someone like James Caviezel. He did look the part in Deja Vu, even though he was playing the bad guy there.
I can't think of a single American at this point who looks let alone sounds like anyone remotely close to Bond . . . but I did find footage of James Brolin's audition for the part a lot less repulsive than I expected . . . and it really scared me.
"A blunt instrument wielded by a Government department. Hard, ruthless, sardonic, fatalistic. He likes gambling, golf, fast motor cars. All his movements are relaxed and economical". Ian Fleming
I'm not plugging any American actors for playing Bond. However, Thomas Jane is an interesting choice. He looks sort of like a cross between Craig and Dalton...more classically handsome than Craig, but a little rougher looking than Dalton. As far as doing a good British accent, Jane did a spot on South African accent in an interesting film in which he portrayed a South African Police Officer who becomes a bank robber. I'm guessing he could probably nail a good British accent with proper coaching. I always thought a younger Mel Gibson would have made a fantastic Bond (he was born in the US but moved to Australia at 12 but kept his US citizenship). A little on the short side (probably shorter than DC but who would ever notice w/ movie magic lol) but no problem with a proper British accent, great looking, could pull off the tough guy physical stuff and would have been second only to the great Connery with the one liners.
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As far as I'm concerned, Nelson played "Jimmy Bond", a completely different person to the James Bond that was created by Fleming.
James Bond is British, and should continue to be played by British actors. I don't know why anyone is even entertaining the idea of getting an American to play the character. As a British icon, I see no reason why this series of movies shouldn't continue to support British acting talent.
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I've been watching a few episodes of Hart to Hart on late-night TV recently, and I have thought to myself that it would have been interesting to see Robert Wagner as James Bond. I remember reading somewhere that Cubby Broccoli toyed with the idea of Wagner replacing Connery after DAF, but that Wagner didn't like the idea.
Something about him reminds me of Roger Moore's Bond. In Hart to Hart, he looks great, exudes class and sophistication and can be very witty.
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Alec, 006, is of Russian background I believe. A "Lienz Cossack" by parentage at that time resident (presumably) in England. Makes him about as English as a man with a Scottish father and a Swiss mother, resident (mainly) in England.
That is true, but Alec never admits to James that his parents were Lienz cossacks. but then again I think the line is supposed to be ironic, more about the fact that neither Bond or Alec originated from the country that they risk their lives to save.
The "Anglinski spiron" line in From russia with love also fits because for a long time the word england was interchangable with britian, back in the days when we had an empire.
Yes, I've always seen the irony in that line too.
I don't think the nationality really matters. If the actor can play the part, he can play the part.
What's with the xenophobia among the Limeys on here?
I think it has more to do with traditionalism, and national pride than xenophobia, or whether or not an actor can play the part. Now, I may not be an expert on film and acting, but I've never seen an American actor pull off a respectable English accent.
James Bond is a British institution, and the Brits would fight to keep it that way. I can certainly sympathise with that. IMO, casting an American actor in the role would be just wrong. The Bond actor doesn't necessarily have to be English, but he must be British. There's only been two non-Brits to play James Bond so far (Lazenby and Brosnan), one of them lasted only one film.
There appears to be a slight typo in your sentence; just replace the word "English" with "Scottish" and it'll be more accurate.
To be fair, the guy who made one film made the best of them all.
Dan, you should be proud of your fellow Australian. You should be building statues to him and naming buildings after him. He should be your Prime Minister, or your King.
If you want a serious Bond film: Bruce Willis
Now Willis as Philip Marlowe would be something I'd like to see. Preferably in period.
But it's true that it could be too ironic if Damon play the role of Bond after he have played the role of Bourne three times 8-)
Just going back on this for a while, John, are you referring to the time when Bond was about to let go of Alec so he can fall to his death? If so, I think the quote went something like this:
"For England, James?"
"No. For me."
Aye, that's later on though. At the beginning of GE, Alec and Bond are breaking into the Russkie's and they have the "For England" exchange. At the fnale, when Alec asks him again, Bond makes it clear that this time it's personal.
Thanks, that clears it up. I haven't seen GE in ages!
I've recently watched a couple of films with Thomas Jane in. I think he would make a really good Bond if he could nail the accent.
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He's also a good actor to play Bond.
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Barry Nelson was the American actor and the FIRST actor to play James Bond before Sean Connery.
James Bond is British, and should continue to be played by British actors. I don't know why anyone is even entertaining the idea of getting an American to play the character. As a British icon, I see no reason why this series of movies shouldn't continue to support British acting talent.
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Something about him reminds me of Roger Moore's Bond. In Hart to Hart, he looks great, exudes class and sophistication and can be very witty.