Its been a while...I Could not remember my old e-mail details and password and so I am having to re-register with a phonetic on my name(Tyrone)...I could have tried to be more imaginative with my user I.D but I am a lazy git at heart!...
...Anyway. This Amy Winehouse and Mark Ronson saga is a bit interesting. First point, good singer or not, Ms Winehouse is a very fortunate and stupid bitch. If it was any member of the public who behaved as she does: Off her tits on drugs and head butting concrete walls and anything with a pulse, then there would be no argument, up before the beak and in you go! So no. Mark Ronson, is a very good producer and it is a bit unfortunate, that he happens to be a friend of Ms P***yknickers and gave her a chance...
Now that it looks as if the project has fallen through, could I make a case for a recently reformed band (I know, I know, not another one) but they are a bit different as they broke up 25 years ago...Its Yazoo! I am not sure how familiar Yazoo are to people on this site but their names might be more familiar: Vince Clarke (Depeche Mode/Erasure) and Alison Moyet.
I have previously mentioned Alison as a suggestion, purely on the grounds that if anyone can pull off a power theme vocal, for a James Bond film, then she is one of only a few, that could...
Failing that, Portishead could produce something very unique.
I like the idea of a U2 theme song. After all, Bono and The Edge have already written a great Bond theme song (GE). However, I don't think the punk sound of Green Day would be right for a Bond film.
David Letterman said tonight that Amy Winehouse would not be singing the theme song to the new James Bond movie but she would be starring in the next one and it would be titled "Thunder Hair."
Good news in my opinion. The sooner the woman dissapears of the surface of the earth, the better!
A bit harsh don't you think? Yes Amy Winehouse has some real problems at the moment -and sadly her troubles do not seem likely to dissipate in the near future - but look at the likes of Billie Holiday who was beset by the same sort of problems decades ago. Amy's life is a tragic existence due to the extreme pressure of her fame. She is one of the most talented singer songwriters that has been produced for a long time -but she's still only in her early twenties. The media circus can cause an individual's celebrity to spiral out of control - then comes the need to escape -and if surrounded by the liggers and hangers on that she has attracted -then normality becomes so much more difficult. If she had not been drawn into that world by opportunities to meet those opportunist vampires that have ruined her life then she would probably not have gone down that road of substance abuse. Now that she has -it is obvious how much help she needs. I for one hope she does get some REAL help soon. She's definitely not a bitch but rather a misguided individual who should be given some sympathy and the chance to turn her life around.
Fair enough everyone deserves a second chance, but she has already had plenty of her own. We know she has support around her. If she is too weak to resist these pressures I don't believe she should be in the position she is. She is one of the worst role models I could think of. It isn't a little bit of coke she's taking, she's a hardcore druggy. She should be dropped by her record company and any advertising endorsements and left until she sorts herself out. Which with the chances she has had seems unlikely. As good as her music might be, she shouldn't be a public role model.
She is one of the worst role models I could think of.
Except she's a musician, not a role model. Since when have musicians been role models? Hendrix, Joplin, Cobain, Freddie Mercury, Jimmy Page, Madonna, Eric Clapton; these are some of the most talented musicians of all time yet I wouldn't call any of them role models, positive or otherwise. I don't agree at all with the idea that celebrities need to be role models. Amy Whinehouse's only obligation to the public is to make good music, not to be a role model.
It isn't a little bit of coke she's taking, she's a hardcore druggy. She should be dropped by her record company and any advertising endorsements and left until she sorts herself out. Which with the chances she has had seems unlikely. As good as her music might be, she shouldn't be a public role model.
I think she should only be dropped by her record company and lose her advertising endorsements, the moment she ceases to be popular. Until then, I think she should be kept on as IMO she has nothing to apologise for.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
How can you say she is not a role model. Anyone who is a public figure and is admired or looked upto by others, especially children should act in a reasonable and law abiding way. I'm not saying she should become a nun and give all her money to charity. Just don't takes drugs!
How can you say she is not a role model. Anyone who is a public figure and is admired or looked upto by others, especially children should act in a reasonable and law abiding way.
The reason I say she is not a role model is that while she may be admired and looked up upon by others, it's not an intrinsic part of her job, like it is with teachers. Amy is a musician and I would hope that children don't emulate the behaviour of their favourite musician.
Plus, if we want to take this further, who's worst? Amy Whinehouse who takes drugs in her private life (and as a consequence looks like hell) or Eminem and othe rappers whose songs contain rather questionable lyrics?
Personally, I don't care whether Amy is acting in a 'reasonable and law abiding way' or not as I don't think, that simply because she is a musician, she is morally obligated to act in any such way.
I'm not saying she should become a nun and give all her money to charity. Just don't takes drugs!
If only it were that simple. Unfortinately she's addicted. Look, to be honest, I'm not losing much sleep over her. But nor do I think that she should be 'punished' in any way simply because she's taking drugs.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
scaramanga1The English RivieraPosts: 845Chief of Staff
How can you say she is not a role model. Anyone who is a public figure and is admired or looked upto by others, especially children should act in a reasonable and law abiding way.
The reason I say she is not a role model is that while she may be admired and looked up upon by others, it's not an intrinsic part of her job, like it is with teachers. Amy is a musician and I would hope that children don't emulate the behaviour of their favourite musician.
Plus, if we want to take this further, who's worst? Amy Whinehouse who takes drugs in her private life (and as a consequence looks like hell) or Eminem and othe rappers whose songs contain rather questionable lyrics?
Personally, I don't care whether Amy is acting in a 'reasonable and law abiding way' or not as I don't think, that simply because she is a musician, she is morally obligated to act in any such way.
I'm not saying she should become a nun and give all her money to charity. Just don't takes drugs!
If only it were that simple. Unfortinately she's addicted. Look, to be honest, I'm not losing much sleep over her. But nor do I think that she should be 'punished' in any way simply because she's taking drugs.
Well said Dan - honestly people should look at the situation she is in. Yes she has been catapulted to stardom -obviously before she was ready for it. The Bright lights and mixing with celebs is very daunting when you are thrown into it. Yes she's made a lot of bad choices -but who took her that way -her husband. She is a victim of circumstance -initially she made a mistake and went down the wrong path -and then it reached a state where it is difficult to turn back. Maybe one day there will be light at the end of the tunnel for her -but right now she needs certain people to be taken out of her circle -and sadly rehab -proper rehab -not just a weeks stay is what she needs.
As for role model -she isn't meant to be one. She is just an individual like the rest of us -who just so happens to have an amazing gift.
Whether you want to be a role model or not, is not an excuse, if your job puts you in a situation where you are one. Most "celebritys" manage to be good role models or atleast don't blatently flout the law.
I don't go along with the "She was forced into it", "It's her upbringing", "It's the people around her" arguments. These are contributing factors but it's ultimately down to the individual whether they stick the needle in. She decides to have the friends she does. There are lot's of other situations where somebodys weakness and lack of will power would be thought of as totally unnaceptable. For example people made to support racist or extremist political partys.
On the subject of whether drug takers or musicians who sing about drugs are worse than the other. It's the drug takers by a country mile. But I would have thought this was obvious so won't even justify it. As you seem to believe the person influencing Ms Winehouse is more to blame than her self, you will probably disagree, but I think we will have to agree to disagree.
Whether you want to be a role model or not, is not an excuse, if your job puts you in a situation where you are one. Most "celebritys" manage to be good role models or atleast don't blatently flout the law.
We are never going to agree, so I will simply say this. My favourite musical artist is Queen, which was known for its wild parties and whose lead singer was promiscuous. I also love Led Zeppelin, which also engaged in wil parties and featured drug takers. I dispute that musicians are role models, irrespective of whether they want to be or not. Her job may be public but that doesn't make her a role model, unless she's a member of the Wiggles or somethings. I mean, seriously, her most famous song is called 'Rehab.' Her target audience is not exactly children.
We will never agree as to whether or not Whinehouse is a role model, so I will conclude by noting that even if one did consider her to be a role model, I don't think one can accuse her of being such a bad role model, since if anything, she is walking evidence of why one should not take drugs.
On the subject of whether drug takers or musicians who sing about drugs are worse than the other. It's the drug takers by a country mile. But I would have thought this was obvious so won't even justify it.
It's not obvious at all and I was actually referring to violent and misogynistic lyrics. IMO these are worse than some musician taking drugs. You don't agree, fine, but that's what I think.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Try the Last Shadow Puppets. Their album is pretty big right now and one of the main guys is very well known for being in the Arctic Monkeys. They're very Bond in flavour:
If not him, Maroon 5. Stylish, modern and widely successful. While we're at it, please also have Adam Levine (the Maroon 5 lead vocalist) replace Daniel Craig as Bond since he looked perfect in a tuxedo in "Makes me wonder" )
YES, YES, YES! I agree with all of this.
Adam Levine should absolutely get the next James bond part. His Makes me Wonder video may as well have been his audition for Bond. And, I agree, he pulled it off extremely well. Furthermore, he has those expressive eyes that stare right into you, and the classy good looks. Now the producers and Adam will have to agree that he's right for the part.
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I wish they would go back to the classy music and not turn it into a punk rock or rock n' roll theme song. If it's the right song, they should use Shirley Bassey or Tom Jones again-{
scaramanga1The English RivieraPosts: 845Chief of Staff
Try the Last Shadow Puppets. Their album is pretty big right now and one of the main guys is very well known for being in the Arctic Monkeys. They're very Bond in flavour:
I Love the Last Shadow Puppets! Alex proves how really talented he is with this project -although obviously he didn't need to prove anything. But the music production is excellent -and as ever the lyrics are relevant and good to boot. It certainly would be interesting to give The Last Shadow puppets a go -but I highly doubt they will be approached.
Well I thought about my answer on this one as I listen to my James Bond Soundtracks. I would love to hear something more Tom Jonesish. Maybe Harry Conick Jr. if not that then Amy Lee. Her style reminds me of the group Garbage.
Bond: You don't think I enjoyed what we did this evening, do you? What I did tonight was for King and country! You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?
Fiona: But of course, I forgot your ego, Mr. Bond. James Bond, who only has to make love to a woman and she starts to hear heavenly choirs singing.
This will undoubtfully cause some members to heap abuse upon me, but I am willing to take the risk and say that I would love Sting to sing the theme song. {:)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Blondie is back on tour. I'm seeing them next month. I think they'd be a good choice, they even did a song for "For Your Eyes Only" but ended up backing out. But I doubt they'd get asked, they just aren't hip enough for the kids today8-)
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Its been a while...I Could not remember my old e-mail details and password and so I am having to re-register with a phonetic on my name(Tyrone)...I could have tried to be more imaginative with my user I.D but I am a lazy git at heart!...
...Anyway. This Amy Winehouse and Mark Ronson saga is a bit interesting. First point, good singer or not, Ms Winehouse is a very fortunate and stupid bitch. If it was any member of the public who behaved as she does: Off her tits on drugs and head butting concrete walls and anything with a pulse, then there would be no argument, up before the beak and in you go! So no. Mark Ronson, is a very good producer and it is a bit unfortunate, that he happens to be a friend of Ms P***yknickers and gave her a chance...
Now that it looks as if the project has fallen through, could I make a case for a recently reformed band (I know, I know, not another one) but they are a bit different as they broke up 25 years ago...Its Yazoo! I am not sure how familiar Yazoo are to people on this site but their names might be more familiar: Vince Clarke (Depeche Mode/Erasure) and Alison Moyet.
I have previously mentioned Alison as a suggestion, purely on the grounds that if anyone can pull off a power theme vocal, for a James Bond film, then she is one of only a few, that could...
Failing that, Portishead could produce something very unique.
Cheers,
Tyrone.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080505/ap_en_mu/people_amy_winehouse;_ylt=AkeInFo6geadiJio4OHyH63qChkF
A bit harsh don't you think? Yes Amy Winehouse has some real problems at the moment -and sadly her troubles do not seem likely to dissipate in the near future - but look at the likes of Billie Holiday who was beset by the same sort of problems decades ago. Amy's life is a tragic existence due to the extreme pressure of her fame. She is one of the most talented singer songwriters that has been produced for a long time -but she's still only in her early twenties. The media circus can cause an individual's celebrity to spiral out of control - then comes the need to escape -and if surrounded by the liggers and hangers on that she has attracted -then normality becomes so much more difficult. If she had not been drawn into that world by opportunities to meet those opportunist vampires that have ruined her life then she would probably not have gone down that road of substance abuse. Now that she has -it is obvious how much help she needs. I for one hope she does get some REAL help soon. She's definitely not a bitch but rather a misguided individual who should be given some sympathy and the chance to turn her life around.
Except she's a musician, not a role model. Since when have musicians been role models? Hendrix, Joplin, Cobain, Freddie Mercury, Jimmy Page, Madonna, Eric Clapton; these are some of the most talented musicians of all time yet I wouldn't call any of them role models, positive or otherwise. I don't agree at all with the idea that celebrities need to be role models. Amy Whinehouse's only obligation to the public is to make good music, not to be a role model.
I think she should only be dropped by her record company and lose her advertising endorsements, the moment she ceases to be popular. Until then, I think she should be kept on as IMO she has nothing to apologise for.
Plus, if we want to take this further, who's worst? Amy Whinehouse who takes drugs in her private life (and as a consequence looks like hell) or Eminem and othe rappers whose songs contain rather questionable lyrics?
Personally, I don't care whether Amy is acting in a 'reasonable and law abiding way' or not as I don't think, that simply because she is a musician, she is morally obligated to act in any such way.
If only it were that simple.
Well said Dan - honestly people should look at the situation she is in. Yes she has been catapulted to stardom -obviously before she was ready for it. The Bright lights and mixing with celebs is very daunting when you are thrown into it. Yes she's made a lot of bad choices -but who took her that way -her husband. She is a victim of circumstance -initially she made a mistake and went down the wrong path -and then it reached a state where it is difficult to turn back. Maybe one day there will be light at the end of the tunnel for her -but right now she needs certain people to be taken out of her circle -and sadly rehab -proper rehab -not just a weeks stay is what she needs.
As for role model -she isn't meant to be one. She is just an individual like the rest of us -who just so happens to have an amazing gift.
I don't go along with the "She was forced into it", "It's her upbringing", "It's the people around her" arguments. These are contributing factors but it's ultimately down to the individual whether they stick the needle in. She decides to have the friends she does. There are lot's of other situations where somebodys weakness and lack of will power would be thought of as totally unnaceptable. For example people made to support racist or extremist political partys.
On the subject of whether drug takers or musicians who sing about drugs are worse than the other. It's the drug takers by a country mile. But I would have thought this was obvious so won't even justify it. As you seem to believe the person influencing Ms Winehouse is more to blame than her self, you will probably disagree, but I think we will have to agree to disagree.
(You don't mind me calling you S90 for short do you...?
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I've been called far worse
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We will never agree as to whether or not Whinehouse is a role model, so I will conclude by noting that even if one did consider her to be a role model, I don't think one can accuse her of being such a bad role model, since if anything, she is walking evidence of why one should not take drugs.
It's not obvious at all and I was actually referring to violent and misogynistic lyrics. IMO these are worse than some musician taking drugs. You don't agree, fine, but that's what I think.
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I Love the Last Shadow Puppets! Alex proves how really talented he is with this project -although obviously he didn't need to prove anything. But the music production is excellent -and as ever the lyrics are relevant and good to boot. It certainly would be interesting to give The Last Shadow puppets a go -but I highly doubt they will be approached.
http://www.gigwise.com/news/43096/james-bond-daniel-craig-wants-amy-winehouse-to-record-bond-theme
Daniel Craig is really hoping that Amy does sing the theme tune, you never know with his clout, it might just happen!
When are they going to announce it anyway? Does anybody know for sure?
Fiona: But of course, I forgot your ego, Mr. Bond. James Bond, who only has to make love to a woman and she starts to hear heavenly choirs singing.
http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/celebrity/news/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=8348924
what do you think of that? Interesting!