simon...let's ask the tailor to match exactly from now on, and send them the pics..
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Thanks guys. Here's a couple of not so good shots of the pocket but they're the best I could do with no blu-ray. The darker one shows the hash marks well and the brighter one shows the repeat of the floral pattern(heart in the middle of the pocket, large flower pointing up on each side, small flower pointing down to the heart, all repeated outside the pocket). You can also see what looks like the seam of the pocket go through the large flower. Definitely two different shirts by the way.
Please take my comments with a grain of salt, as I humbly and sincerely bow to those who know more than I do about the process...
But, isn't it asking the almost impossible to get the patterns to line up exactly the way it did in the film? Particularly since we're all going to have different measurements?
Please take my comments with a grain of salt, as I humbly and sincerely bow to those who know more than I do about the process...
But, isn't it asking the almost impossible to get the patterns to line up exactly the way it did in the film? Particularly since we're all going to have different measurements?
No problem, I'll explain. I, for one at least, am not terribly worried about the patterns lining up like the screen used shirt as far as body panels go. What I'm talking about is the pocket, etc lining up with the panel that it's sewn on.
I'll use plaid western shirts as an example because it'll be easier to see what I mean.
Right now the pockets, placket(the button strip), and yoke(the panel that covers the shoulders) don't go with the pattern of the front of the shirt. Example:
As opposed to one where the pockets and placket line up but the yokes don't. Example:
Now, look at a pocket that breaks the pattern(fold over placket so no worries).
And one that doesn't. See the pocket line, it's there(although the placket doesn't line up on this one).
Now the prototype. Neither the pocket or the placket line up as has been shown on the screen caps.
See the difference. I hope it's clear now that I'm not nuts and trying to get the shirt off Danny's back. I just want the same quality and attention to detail that the shirt(s) on his back received, especially for the price.
Hi guys have been out of the loop for couple of weeks in Italy no access. Would love to see pic of shirt but can not down load it. Any chance someone could send it to me or stick it up on site? Let me know when money due. DB5
I'll use plaid western shirts as an example because it'll be easier to see what I mean.
How much I want that Shirt!
ke02eww, I am sure, that you are able to retrieve the fabric, maybe, you could ask your tailor for a limited and accurate run?
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I have been out of the loop on this for a few days too so have missed the latest developments regarding the correct lining of the pattern etc. Kittlemeier has an eagle eye and well spotted. Its definately best if these minor quibbles can be corrected. I would personally like to get the shirt as close as humanly possible the real thing. I also agree that the collar does look a little "70's" ish but Craig has his collar folded in in the movie. Maybe a better picture with the collar of the prototype shirt folded inwards would help clear this up? Other than that, keep up the good work guys cant believe how well this project is coming together.
I'll use plaid western shirts as an example because it'll be easier to see what I mean.
How much I want that Shirt!
ke02eww, I am sure, that you are able to retrieve the fabric, maybe, you could ask your tailor for a limited and accurate run?
getting back on topic, I have spoken to teh shirt maker and they have said that its very painstaking to get the pattern to aling as requested and as such is going to increase the price of the shirt by 40GBP ($80)
Im negotiating with them on this increased cost and will get post an update soon.
getting back on topic, I have spoken to teh shirt maker and they have said that its very painstaking to get the pattern to aling as requested and as such is going to increase the price of the shirt by 40GBP ($80)
Im negotiating with them on this increased cost and will get post an update soon.
Either they're going to make it as seen on screen or they're not. All this talk of their reputation and what not I'd expect them to do it right the first time and not fuss about details like this. This should have never been an issue.
If it's so painstaking, why can I go get a ton of tropical shirts with the details lined up for $40 a pop.
I know you guys want to use this company but this is unreasonable. I had no issue paying what was agreed upon but this is just price gouging. It seems we're being punished for questioning them when they obviously need to step up and correct THEIR error.
Again, thanks for the work you guys have put in on this and I hope this can be reasonably resolved with the shirtmaker. If not, I really don't understand why you'd want to use them. They remind me of Herbert Johnson(Indy's original fedora), who doesn't even want business from Indy fans. There are plenty of shirtmakers who could step up and do a better job for a third of the price.
China would be a good start, taiwan, or even somewhere in central america, any of these places would give a better price.
Yeah, but that's like buying material from Brioni and getting it tailored by Hwin Long Song Flong tailors, not exactly a Brioni suit when it's finished is it.
Personally I'm only bothered about the pocket being aligned. If I really wanted it 100% screen accurate the sweat and blood stains would ruin my street cred and probably repel the ladies.
Yeah, but that's like buying material from Brioni and getting it tailored by Hwin Long Song Flong tailors, not exactly a Brioni suit when it's finished is it.
I can't say for sure because I don't have any Brioni but I would hope they wouldn't have made such an error. And really, so far this isn't exactly the quality of shirt from the movie, is it?
Personally I'm only bothered about the pocket being aligned. If I really wanted it 100% screen accurate the sweat and blood stains would ruin my street cred and probably repel the ladies.
I can appreciate that but for the kind of money that we're spending I expect what's seen on Craig and this ain't it, even if the pocket gets aligned.
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[quote=KittlemeierIf it's so painstaking, why can I go get a ton of tropical shirts with the details lined up for $40 a pop.[/quote]
Mass manufactured and not tailored individually.
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[quote=KittlemeierIf it's so painstaking, why can I go get a ton of tropical shirts with the details lined up for $40 a pop.
Mass manufactured and not tailored individually.
Exactly, I'd expect more care and detail from an individually tailored piece.[/quote]
True, but this was our oversight not theirs, it was never requested as we only found out about it from the recent posts. We moved the goalposts, not the tailors.
Did you ask for what was on screen? They obviously took much care to get those right. It should have been part of the design on their end. You should have never had to ask for it.
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Well, we'll have to see how Simon get's on with his negotiations. He is a genius in this regard, so it's not a finality, only a possibility that it will be extra. I wouldn't get too upset over it guys, it's not you that will be seriously out of pocket in this venture. Imagine how Paul feels
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Thanks guys. Here's a couple of not so good shots of the pocket but they're the best I could do with no blu-ray. The darker one shows the hash marks well and the brighter one shows the repeat of the floral pattern(heart in the middle of the pocket, large flower pointing up on each side, small flower pointing down to the heart, all repeated outside the pocket). You can also see what looks like the seam of the pocket go through the large flower. Definitely two different shirts by the way.
But, isn't it asking the almost impossible to get the patterns to line up exactly the way it did in the film? Particularly since we're all going to have different measurements?
No problem, I'll explain. I, for one at least, am not terribly worried about the patterns lining up like the screen used shirt as far as body panels go. What I'm talking about is the pocket, etc lining up with the panel that it's sewn on.
I'll use plaid western shirts as an example because it'll be easier to see what I mean.
Right now the pockets, placket(the button strip), and yoke(the panel that covers the shoulders) don't go with the pattern of the front of the shirt. Example:
As opposed to one where the pockets and placket line up but the yokes don't. Example:
Now, look at a pocket that breaks the pattern(fold over placket so no worries).
And one that doesn't. See the pocket line, it's there(although the placket doesn't line up on this one).
Now the prototype. Neither the pocket or the placket line up as has been shown on the screen caps.
See the difference. I hope it's clear now that I'm not nuts and trying to get the shirt off Danny's back. I just want the same quality and attention to detail that the shirt(s) on his back received, especially for the price.
http://www.eh30.com/madagascar_outfit.jpg
THE yoke does not appear to be lined up at the shoulder.
Paul do you know if THE yoke is lined up on THE protoype
Okay, that explains the confusion. I'm glad we have that squared away.
For a moment with all the THE's I thought you were getting a little touchy, then I went back and read Paul's post.:))
Now, I'm not picky or anything but...:s...everything looks great with those things fixed.
Should be able to get the back yoke sorted if it's not already, paul needs to confirm though!
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i was actually trying to help ur job prospects bro
actually it doesn't...
this really was a prototype!....
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ke02eww, I am sure, that you are able to retrieve the fabric, maybe, you could ask your tailor for a limited and accurate run?
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Don't make things harder than they need to be.
http://www.sheplers.com/mens/plaids_stripes/092b65.html
Now I think we all want to see pics when you get it.:))
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WOW!! The effects are gonna SUCK!! on this one, huh?
haven't you forgotten something?
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Is that Vin from The Magnificent Seven?
Im negotiating with them on this increased cost and will get post an update soon.
Either they're going to make it as seen on screen or they're not. All this talk of their reputation and what not I'd expect them to do it right the first time and not fuss about details like this. This should have never been an issue.
If it's so painstaking, why can I go get a ton of tropical shirts with the details lined up for $40 a pop.
I know you guys want to use this company but this is unreasonable. I had no issue paying what was agreed upon but this is just price gouging. It seems we're being punished for questioning them when they obviously need to step up and correct THEIR error.
Again, thanks for the work you guys have put in on this and I hope this can be reasonably resolved with the shirtmaker. If not, I really don't understand why you'd want to use them. They remind me of Herbert Johnson(Indy's original fedora), who doesn't even want business from Indy fans. There are plenty of shirtmakers who could step up and do a better job for a third of the price.
$380.00 for a Hawaian shirt.
Yeah, but that's like buying material from Brioni and getting it tailored by Hwin Long Song Flong tailors, not exactly a Brioni suit when it's finished is it.
Personally I'm only bothered about the pocket being aligned. If I really wanted it 100% screen accurate the sweat and blood stains would ruin my street cred and probably repel the ladies.
I can't say for sure because I don't have any Brioni but I would hope they wouldn't have made such an error. And really, so far this isn't exactly the quality of shirt from the movie, is it?
I can appreciate that but for the kind of money that we're spending I expect what's seen on Craig and this ain't it, even if the pocket gets aligned.
Mass manufactured and not tailored individually.
This would probably mean us getting in serious doo doo from Eon. We'll have to see what Paul thinks.
Exactly, I'd expect more care and detail from an individually tailored piece.
Exactly, I'd expect more care and detail from an individually tailored piece.[/quote]
True, but this was our oversight not theirs, it was never requested as we only found out about it from the recent posts. We moved the goalposts, not the tailors.