Where Bond fears to tread...

Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
I remember Wade and Purvis saying, around the time of TWINE, that Bond had gone everywhere really.

But I'm not sure that's true. There are whole swathes he's never been to... Why is that?

All of Scandinavia, for instance. Although Bond's second kill in the novel Casion Royale, the one that got him his double 0, took place in Stockholm and was very messy indeed (as it was in the film, though was that in Stockholm? I'm not sure.

Perhaps it's too melacholic a continent. Harry Palmer went there in his third film, it all got a bit heavy going, gets dark at 3pm and you turn to vodka. Mind you, Craig's Bond would look like a native alright! :p

Other places: anywhere in Poland, Romania, most of Spain except Bilbao in TWINE and the bullfight I guess in OHMSS (not sure where that was, it wasn't Barcelona). Moscow. Rome.

Marc Forster has said that the tourist trail is no biggie these days, what with cheap flights. All the same, there are still exotic locations in the films, incl the next one. I think Bond 22 will look as good as CR, but think of some rubbish locations in the Brosnan years, and it seems a shame. Hamburg, anyone? The Ice Palace?
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  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,632MI6 Agent
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    Other places: anywhere in Poland, Romania, most of Spain except Bilbao in TWINE and the bullfight I guess in OHMSS (not sure where that was, it wasn't Barcelona).

    Draco is head of the Unione Corse, which Fleming likend to a French Mafia. I thought Draco's base in the opening descriptions of OHMSS the novel was set around Marseilles (I could be wrong, I havent checked). If so that would suggest the bullfight scene more likely taking place in the deep South of France, around Perpignon etc, where bullfighting is still very commom. Very Basque country.

    In terms of where can Bond travel to next....
    1. I agree, anywhere in Scandanavia
    2. South Africa
    3. Sri Lanka
    4. Mexico
    5. China
    6. Cananda, I am thinking Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver
    7. Spain, good choice
    8. any eastern European country post iron curtain
    9. Dubai
    10. The Phillipines

    Just a selection, I reckon there are lots more
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    I have always wanted to see Bond in Australia. A long way from "filmmaking central" in the UK, though, so logistics may get in the way.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    Not sure if there's anything Bondian about Oz, is there?

    I must admit I'm tying this in with The Ian Fleming Companion book (the exact name escapes me) of the last two years. It lists all the Fleming haunts, and most of them show up in the books. But I'm not sure if he ever went to Scandinavia or Australia or any of these. He didn't seem to go to India either, but they put that in Octopussy well enough.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Not sure if there's anything Bondian about Oz, is there?

    I must admit I'm tying this in with The Ian Fleming Companion book (the exact name escapes me) of the last two years. It lists all the Fleming haunts, and most of them show up in the books. But I'm not sure if he ever went to Scandinavia or Australia or any of these. He didn't seem to go to India either, but they put that in Octopussy well enough.

    OK, you've lost me now, Nap.
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I think the remoteness and desolation of the Aussie outback would be a prime location for Bond...and I wouldn't simply dismiss the rest of the continent, either ;)

    Granted, with the world getting smaller, it's a bit more of a challenge to have Bond locations continue to be exotic and exciting...which is why, as I've repeatedly said, he needs to go to the moon :v Seriously... :D

    Japan is due for another visit, IMO---hopefully in The Death Collector, the third film of Craig's arc :D ---though I'd urge them to avoid trying to pass him off as a Japanese fisherman this time round ;)

    Or, for something really remarkable, they could stage an action sequence at City Hall in San Francisco :#
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  • Golden JawsGolden Jaws Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    Imagine Bond in Iraq

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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,484MI6 Agent
    Not sure if there's anything Bondian about Oz, is there?

    I must admit I'm tying this in with The Ian Fleming Companion book (the exact name escapes me) of the last two years. It lists all the Fleming haunts, and most of them show up in the books. But I'm not sure if he ever went to Scandinavia or Australia or any of these. He didn't seem to go to India either, but they put that in Octopussy well enough.

    OK, you've lost me now, Nap.

    Hilly, Hilly, where are you?! :D

    Guess what I was saying is that decades after his death, Ian Fleming's travels (and lack of them in certain areas) still seem to be defining the on-screen itinerary of 007.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Brosnan_fanBrosnan_fan Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 521MI6 Agent
    I have always wanted to see Bond in Australia. A long way from "filmmaking central" in the UK, though, so logistics may get in the way.

    Top spot in the world, Hill. :D

    If Hollywood can film a blockbuster like Mission: Impossible 2 in Sydney, then the people at Eon have no such excuses.

    So far, Bond has never done a "picture postcard" tour of Europe, so it would be nice if a Bond film did one.

    Other places in the world which (IMO) would be interesting in a Bond film are Africa, Latin America, and the Arctic (I would enjoy seeing Bond mixing it up with the wildlife! B-)).
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  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    most of Spain except Bilbao in TWINE and the bullfight I guess in OHMSS (not sure where that was, it wasn't Barcelona).
    That was Portugal!

    I think there are plenty of interesting locations for Bond to visit, although I'm not sure Australia is one of them as commonly suggested (cities too modern, lacking the 'mysterious' factor). There are several Eastern European locations which still have a sense of mystique and the quality of being somewhat undiscovered. Bond did visit Montenegro (the Czech Republic doubling) in Casino Royale, however many of the cities in the recent EU countries have some absolutely magnificent architecture and would look fantastic on screen. I'm thinking specifically of Bucharest, Budapest and Sofia (in Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria respectively). The first is known as the Paris of the East, and it would look great in a Bond film.

    250px-CEC_Palace_Bucharest.jpgBucharest

    250px-Budapest_Parlament1.jpgBudapest

    201459424742da3ec7500.jpgBucharest

    alexander-nevsky-cathedral-sofia-bulgaria.JPGSofia

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    I can see any of those cities making a superb spy location with a hint of romanticism (similar to Istanbul in From Russia with Love).
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    think there are plenty of interesting locations for Bond to visit, although I'm not sure Australia is one of them as commonly suggested (cities too modern, lacking the 'mysterious' factor).

    I have to agree there. Its the same reason you wouldnt set a Bond in Houston, Auckland or Minneapolis - the cities are too modern and arent mysterious. Sydney is a top city but not sure what stories you could do there. The Mission Impossible II was a predictable germ warfare story. You could do that anywhere. And Australia is a long way from spy stories that you can do in Europe and the Middle East.

    I think Marc Foster is wrong about the travel details. One of the highlights of CR was that they showed you scenic Venice and Montenegro (Cz Rep). Seeing Rio on the big screen as a kid inspired me to go to Brazil as an adult. And I've been back four times.

    Suggestions for locations

    1. Africa - Tanzania, Kenya and opening up of Uganda. You could do a good "meglomaniac in the wilderness up to no good here" and the cities of Dar es Salaam and Cape Town are pretty cinematic
    2 Jordan - Not just Petra but the desert at Wadi Rum and diving at Aqaba
    3 Dubai - right in the action of the middle east. Good photogenic modern architecture too
    4. Argentina - Buenos Aires is a supberb Bondian city with ski fields in the Andes
    5 - Nepal - spectacular Himlalayas and interesting Asian intrigue. Close to Afghanistan and Iraq too..
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  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    I have to agree there. Its the same reason you wouldnt set a Bond in Houston, Auckland or Minneapolis - the cities are too modern and arent mysterious. Sydney is a top city but not sure what stories you could do there.
    Indeed. I am sure all those very modern cities in countries such as Australia, New Zealand and the United States are very liveable with decent planning (something a lot older cities do *not* have), however they do lack soul.
    Seeing Rio on the big screen as a kid inspired me to go to Brazil as an adult. And I've been back four times.
    I think the use of Rio in Moonraker is one of the strongest uses of a location in a Bond film. The city really does come alive and they convey the energy of the place brilliantly.

    I feel that the locations in the Brosnan films were not really used to their full advantage. Hamburg looks good in Tommorow Never Dies, but apart from that there is little to write home about (if they used locations at all: the less said about the Korean temple that looks suspiciously situated on the Devonsire coast the better!). By contrast, the use of locations in Casino Royale gave the film a very classy feel, and where they doubled up locations they did at least feel fairly authentic (Bahamas doubling for Madagascar, the previously mentioned Czech Republic doubling for Montenegro).
    Suggestions for locations

    1. Africa - Tanzania, Kenya and opening up of Uganda.
    Agreed. There are lots of possibilities in these areas, with some stunning imagery that would transfer beautifully to the big screen.
    4. Argentina - Buenos Aires is a supberb Bondian city with ski fields in the Andes
    Again, this could make an excellent Bond location. Buenos Aries is a fairly Euroepan looking city (isn't it called the Paris of the South or something?) and the surrounding area could be utilised also.
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Dubai
    :))
    Yeah -- Houston, Minneapolis and Auckland are too modern, but Dubai's got so much Old World charm. :s

    And judging from L880's photos (which are beautiful) it seems that we need baroque architecture and other "European" influences in Bond's locales. Nothing like the same old same old...
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    Africa
    Namibia, particularly the Skeleton Coast and the Succulent Karoo area of the Kalahari Desert. If filming in Namibia, it would have to include a sunset. Cricket was cut out of Casino Royale, Bond at a game in Windhoek wouldn't be out of place.

    Libya, a nation normalising relations with the west and keen to capitalise on it's incredibly rich history to boost tourism. The old quarter of Tripoli, Greek and Roman ruins, and the Mediterranean coastline.

    Asia
    China, but specifically Shanghai. 'Nuff said.

    South America
    Argentina, for the picturesque capital of Buenos Airies as mentioned above. Or for something a little different, nip across the border to Montevideo in Uruguay.

    Falklands. It's been mentioned that MI6 has an evaluation centre there, now wouldn't that be a fun PTS? It's wild, rocky, stormy, remote with a heavy British military presence.

    European Union
    Malta, in and around Valetta, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, or further east in the Med, Cyprus. The United Kingdom retains the Sovereign Base Areas Akrotiri and Dhekelia, in which I'm sure British Forces Cyprus could accommodate MI6. But the UN-controlled Green Line splitting Nicosia could be the source of some action.

    Spain Madrid is a vastly underrated city and one I'd very much like to see explored in a Bond film.

    Scotland. Hey, so I'm biased, shoot me. :p But we're seriously ruling out the rest of the UK outside London because Bond/MI6 "doesn't operate within the UK"? What codswallop. I'm sure as soon as Bond hops around the globe, if the trail leads him back to the wilds of western Scotland, he'll happily hand over the operation to Big Tam McSween of Northern Constabularly's only armed response squad 4 hours away in Inverness, or the very public unarmed MI5. 8-) Edinburgh is a stunning backdrop to any scene, but even some sort of training mission could take place in the hills of Argyll.
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  • Walther PPKWalther PPK Posts: 180MI6 Agent
    I would like to see Bond travel to the following locations in future films.

    Asia:The Philippines, and Malaysia based what I have seen on the Travel and Discovery channels they both have a very colorful look to them.

    Africa: Kenya, Namibia, It is a shame that more Western film productions don't use this continent more.
    Canada, Whistler, British Columbia I skied there last January, and felt like it would be perfect place for Bond to get in some skiing, or backwoods hikeing with the two mountains right next to each other.
  • TracyTracy the VillagePosts: 369MI6 Agent
    I'm personally shocked that Bond's never appeared in Rome. I don't blame him for liking Venice so much, but it's such a shame that he's never gone anywhere else in Italy!

    Croatia could be a good "generic European" shooting location, considering how gorgeous it is and how relatively inexpensive compared to Italy.
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  • JamesbondjrJamesbondjr Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    I would love to see Bond in some of Britains more beautiful locations.

    An action scene in the Lake District or the Scottish Highlands perhaps.

    I sometimes think the producers forget we have great locations over here
    1- On Her Majesty's Secret Service 2- Casino Royale 3- Licence To Kill 4- Goldeneye 5- From Russia With Love
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