Craig's suit

from the behind the scnes footage it looks like Craig wears the same suit during an action scene and the scene when he talks to the receptionist, doesnt it look to be the same one he wears in CR when he chases vesper in the Aston Martin?
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    He's wearing a tux when he chases Vesper in the Aston. Here he is just wearing a plain black suit.
  • MailfistMailfist Posts: 246MI6 Agent
    Hard to tell from the photos. I originally thought he was wearing a dinner jacket with the bow tie off.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    yea thats what it looks like to me, guess we'll just have to wait for more stuff to be released
  • Shatterhand67Shatterhand67 Safe HousePosts: 424MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    Check out this clip on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy7wA0NC1AU

    It appears that he is wearing a dinner jacket (tuxedo) with a shawl collar (he wore a peak lapel in Casino Royale). As previously stated by Mailfist in this thread, he is not wearing a tie so it is probably a scene shot after an evening out...similar to when Bond and Vesper dined after the card game.

    Based on the collar, this is definitely a dinner jacket as no business suit I have ever seen had a shawl collar. Plus if you look closely, the collar appears to be satin...it picks up light differently from the rest of the suit.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Thanks for that clip, after viewing, I concur with the rest of you. It is a shawl collar that looks to be satin, suggesting a tuxedo, and (obviously) different from the peaked lapel of the CR tux.
  • sruzgarsruzgar Welcome to ScotlandPosts: 1,468MI6 Agent
    I think its funny that he had a great peaked lapel brioni suit in CR and this movie which takes place a couple of hours after CR and then he has a not so great peaked lapel tux.

    Then again maybe he thre it out because vesper bought it for him ;)
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    I know you were making a joke, sruzgar, but I'll bet that the scene where Craig is in a tux is not set a few hours after CR. Who knows how much time passes during QoS? And he may have gotten rid of the tux because of the reason you mentioned, it may've been too painful to hold on to.

    Or, it could be the dinner jacket he already said he owned in CR.
  • Coldheart96Coldheart96 Florida , USAPosts: 203MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    Wasn't he wearing the tux when he chased after Vesper and then rolled his car over several times? And weren't his clothes stripped from him right before he was tortured. I may be wrong but I don't think even a Brioni tuxedo would fair well after a record setting car crash and then having a bad guy rip it off your body. Just my opinion, but I doubt it was the same tuxedo in QoS.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    Wasn't he wearing the tux when he chased after Vesper and then rolled his car over several times? And weren't his clothes stripped from him right before he was tortured. I may be wrong but I don't think even a Brioni tuxedo would fair well after a record setting car crash and then having a bad guy rip it off your body. Just my opinion, but I doubt it was the same tuxedo in QoS.

    Good thinking!

    It certainly is not the same tuxedo, as we pretty much agreed that this one has a different style lapel, but you're right that Bond would no longer have that tux as it was taken from him (unless when he was rescued they recovered it).
  • MailfistMailfist Posts: 246MI6 Agent
    Just watched the Behind The Scenes clips on MI6 and it is definitely a shawl neck dinner jacket (tux).
  • MailfistMailfist Posts: 246MI6 Agent
    Just watched the Behind The Scenes clips on MI6 and it is definitely a shawl neck dinner jacket (tux).
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond +++ Classified +++Posts: 569MI6 Agent
    Yes unfortunately it is!! I hate them personally. The Peaked lapel Dinner suits have been in again since Casino Royale. If you are buying one - always go with the notched lapel (satin) - it always looks good whereas the other two come into and go out of fashion very easily.
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    Yes unfortunately it is!! I hate them personally. The Peaked lapel Dinner suits have been in again since Casino Royale. If you are buying one - always go with the notched lapel (satin) - it always looks good whereas the other two come into and go out of fashion very easily.

    Agree on the shawl thing, but I'd say that a peaked always wins- notched lapel dinner jackets have always looked a bit lacking to me.
  • VC_Dirty MindVC_Dirty Mind Posts: 41MI6 Agent
    What would you think of Craig in a white tuxedo?

    http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitetuxedozk2.jpg
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    I think Craig could possibly pull that off
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    Yes unfortunately it is!! I hate them personally. The Peaked lapel Dinner suits have been in again since Casino Royale. If you are buying one - always go with the notched lapel (satin) - it always looks good whereas the other two come into and go out of fashion very easily.

    Agree on the shawl thing, but I'd say that a peaked always wins- notched lapel dinner jackets have always looked a bit lacking to me.

    For tuxes, classic is peaked. Notched is pretty lame, actually.
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond +++ Classified +++Posts: 569MI6 Agent
    yes, well it's a taste thing.
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  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond +++ Classified +++Posts: 569MI6 Agent
    yes, well it's a taste thing.
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  • Bill TannerBill Tanner "Spending the money quickly" iPosts: 261MI6 Agent
    An evening suit should traditionally have a shawl or peaked lapel. A notched lapel is usually an indicator that the manufacturer is trying to get away with using a 'regular' suit pattern for their evening wear, saving money by not having to re-tool for an item which will be sold in relatively small numbers. You'll often see this with high street big name department stores. A tailor wouldn't put a notched lapel on an dinner jacket unless the customer specifically requested it.

    As for a white jacket, that's become a bit of a naff Bond-cliche.
  • TylerTyler Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    Yep, for a DJ it's always a shawl...
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  • MailfistMailfist Posts: 246MI6 Agent
    I've always understood that the shawl neck is a perennial classic whereas peaked and notched lapels come and go.
  • AlessandraAlessandra Lake Garda, ItalyPosts: 633MI6 Agent
    I wouldn't worry about the neck frankly. I find Craig unelegant no matter what he's wearing, and even when wearing a tuxedo. And I think the jacket he's wearing here in the video miraculously makes him look a lot more elegant than what he wore on CR. So congrats to the wardrobe department as far as I'm concerned.

    Also, looked much better in a suit in the interview than he ever did before. Still looks like a plumber playing James Bond to me but hey, I give credit where it's due and I've seen improvement. :D
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    What would you think of Craig in a white tuxedo?

    http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitetuxedozk2.jpg

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Could u guys explain to me the difference between all these different lapels?
  • Shatterhand67Shatterhand67 Safe HousePosts: 424MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    I believe that peaked lapel dinner jackets have always been and always will be "in style" as the original dinner jacket / tuxedo design had the peaked lapels. As far as I have been able to dedeuce, the peak lapel is the gold standard for dinner jackets followed by shawl collar and then notched lapel. Some fashion police would arrest you if you were wearing a notched lapel on a dinner jacket. My dinner jacket happens to have notched lapels because that's what I like personally. I have never cared for the shawl collar and I although I'm OK with the peak lapels, I find them to be...how should I say this?..."flamboyant"..."gangster-ish"...just my personal opinion.

    The notched lapel is also more common it seems in America. The reason notched lapels are looked down upon really has nothing to do with manufacturers working on the cheap...afterall; Brioni, Kiton and all of the Savile Row houses have made notched lapels at one time or another...and I think we can all agree that they do not cut corners. Rather the notched lapel is looked down upon because some feel that it is not different enough from a typical man's business suit with a notched lapel. I think it is sufficiently different because I have never had a business suit with satin or grosgrain lapels (I prefer grosgrain to satin).

    I really don't care what the fashion police have to say. I've never been fined or thrown in the cooler becuase I was wearing a notched lapel. I say wear what you want.

    Plus, if you look at the James Bond films, you will see that the character has worn all three types at one point or another. For example...the first time we see Bond sitting across from Sylvia Trench he is wearing a shawl collar dinner jacket. In Goldfinger and TLD he wears a notched lapel. Obviously the peaked lapel was in CR.

    My only "must" on any tuxedo is that it have only one button. I am a minimalist. I personally don't care for double breasted dinner jackets...they're just too over the top for me. :007)
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  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Could u guys explain to me the difference between all these different lapels?

    Sure, but in the words of Kojak, maybe a picture would help instead of a 1000 words..

    Peaked Collar (and double breasted, though singles are seen too..)

    Double_Breast-1.jpg

    Shawl collar

    shawl-collar-foreigner.jpg

    Notched collar

    notchedcollar.jpg

    and as an after thought, one of my true favs, the tailcoat tux or morning suit

    tail_coat-1.jpg


    Btw, while I understood the plausibility of the view that notched tux's are cheaper and easier for the tailor (re-tooling etc) it's just not true...Brioni for example, are happy to have their name attached to notched tux's

    http://www.evisure.com/How-To-Lose-A-Guy-In-10-Days-Brioni-Black-Notch-Collar-Tuxedo.html


    On which style, many tailors (including mine, who has long been trying to get me to go for a single breasted, but I much prefer double!) simply suggest the style should suit the body shape/size etc

    http://www.weddingchannel.com/ui/buildArticle.action?assetUID=3183

    I actually agree with shaterhand...it's upto you...whatever makes you feel comfortable, but definitely single button! B-)

    The fact that different bonds have chosen different tux's I find reassuring; tux's are like any clothing, in and out of fashion regularly, and it's crucial that Bonds sets, or at least, follows, fashion tastes...

    Re Alessandra's comments above, which made me laugh out loud (so thank you!), I've asked my plumber to turn up appropriately dressed next week (in a u-bend collared tux... :) )
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    ke02eww wrote:
    The fact that different bonds have chosen different tuxs I find reassuring; tuxs are like any clothing, in and out of fashion regularly, and it's crucial that Bonds sets, or at least, follows, fashion tastes...

    Quite right- I've never understood the popular fan assertion that Bond shouldn't have anything to do with fashion; he's supposed to be a guy with his finger on the pulse.
    Is it even possible to buy a high quality suit which doesn't follow the fashion of the day?
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    thanks alot Ke02eww! much appreciated : )
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    Is it even possible to buy a high quality suit which doesn't follow the fashion of the day?

    Yep, get one custom to your liking, or buy one from a more conservative label (Brooks Brothers, Paul Stuart, etc.), although many of them have hipper, slimmer lines as well.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    ke02eww wrote:
    The fact that different bonds have chosen different tuxs I find reassuring; tuxs are like any clothing, in and out of fashion regularly, and it's crucial that Bonds sets, or at least, follows, fashion tastes...

    Quite right- I've never understood the popular fan assertion that Bond shouldn't have anything to do with fashion; he's supposed to be a guy with his finger on the pulse.
    Is it even possible to buy a high quality suit which doesn't follow the fashion of the day?

    I prefer Bond to be stylish rather than a follower of fashion. Coco Chanel said it all... "Fashion can go out of style, but style can never go out of fashion".
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