Magnoli Clothiers replica watches

hoshihoshi Perth, AustraliaPosts: 27MI6 Agent
Has anyone purchased one of these? If so, how are you liking it? I'm thinking about getting a PO to rough up with some sand and whatnot.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Uh-oh. I think I just lost some respect for Magnoli Clothiers.
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    There is a GREAT article in Cigar Aficianado April 2008 about this very subject...very enlightening!
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Mantis, for those of us that don't subscribe, could you summarize what made the article interesting?
  • ClarkyClarky IndianaPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    Uh-oh. I think I just lost some respect for Magnoli Clothiers.

    Not this *******s again?
  • PaperbillPaperbill FloridaPosts: 812MI6 Agent
    Uh-oh. I think I just lost some respect for Magnoli Clothiers.

    I agree, replica watches...come on. If you can't afford an Omegs, buy a Seiko or Invicta
  • PaperbillPaperbill FloridaPosts: 812MI6 Agent
    In face I am sure Omega or Tag would not take kindly to what Magnoli is doing.
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Clarky wrote:
    Uh-oh. I think I just lost some respect for Magnoli Clothiers.

    Not this *******s again?

    Yes, this again. I mean, Magnoli rips off the design of a lot of clothes, but in those cases he doesn't use the brand name, so I can respect that. But when you rip off the design AND brand name of the watch, and don't just make it a facsimile with a different name... that is going too far.
  • Herr MichaelHerr Michael Posts: 360MI6 Agent
    Not to mention the fact that there is very little quality in these fake or counterfeit watches. Most are made with a cheap Chinese movement, the markings are wrong, the hands are wrong, the colors are off, and the stainless is not of the same grade, weight, or finish as Omega uses. The engraving on the bracelet clasp is wrong too.

    You are wasting your money on a counterfeit watch, and anyone who knows watches and/or Omega's will spot this before you even shake hands. If you plan on impressing people at a fine restaraunt or social engagment, think again.

    If you can't afford an Omega, buy something less expensive that is still a fair quality item. Even if you have to buy quartz.

    If you must have a Bond watch, save your dollars and buy a real Bond watch.
  • hoshihoshi Perth, AustraliaPosts: 27MI6 Agent
    Thanks for your candour, gentlemen. I suppose that my real question was whether or not the fact that these are by Magnoli, whom I know I a lot of people on this forum are fans of, would affect anyone's opinion. (Clearly, no.) Points noted, money is going back into my pocket.
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    To be perfectly honest, there are better replica watches out there. I've made it clear that I don't condone it, but if you had your heart set on buying one, there are better ones than these.
  • hoshihoshi Perth, AustraliaPosts: 27MI6 Agent
    Didn't really have my heart set on it, it was just a thought that is might be nice to have a display one to wreck a little bit, as well as the original I already own. Meh, I will just save up for the new PO rumoured to be arriving soon instead :)

    Once again though, I really appreciate everyone's input in the matter.
  • Herr MichaelHerr Michael Posts: 360MI6 Agent
    Since you already own an Omega, should you decide to purchase a fake, you will soon see the differences. They will jump out at you the minute you open the box.

    You'll realize that it will only fool the uninitiated, and then only for a short time.

    Omega has been changing the case back on recent models to try to stay ahead of the counterfeiters. Their biggest fault seems to be th colored ring on the rotating bezel. They cant get the numerals or the 12 o'clock Luminova dot correct.

    The hands are a dead give-a-away as well. Watch where the Luminova dot is on the second hand as it passes the hour markers. It should meet the top (or bottom) of the marker precisely as it passes over or under it.
  • SharpeSharpe Posts: 84MI6 Agent
    I've got a real 2254.50 and a fake PO. I love both watches dearly.

    The 2254.50 feels very silky smooth and is a fantastic watch to own and look at. Everything just seems so perfect.

    The PO is a great replica - swiss ETA movements, sapphire crystal, nice stainless steel, most of the details are good. Only people who have read about the differences between the fake and the real one would notice them, and even then, they'd probably have to take the wrist off my watch and look at it up close to figure it out.

    The PO is great as a beater watch, and the 2254.50 is great as a watch to wear for nice occasions (or in places where it's fairly safe). Love them both - and even though lots of people are morally against replicas, for others, I think they're a good choice.

    However, these cheap chinese replicas are not a good choice.
  • NouniardNouniard U.S.Posts: 59MI6 Agent
    edited March 2008
    I couldn't wear a fake watch as it would make me feel...well...fake. Sort of a costume James Bond. An Alpha is as close as I would go but even that is almost too close. I currently own Casio's MTD-1043a with a NATO strap as an alternative Bond Rolex. For the Brosnan era, I just purchased Casio's 'Seamaster': the MTD-1051a. These I can comfortably wear as they are similar but don't tread into the realm of copy cats. I'd rather be a "poor man's James Bond" than a fake.

    Pierre Flims
  • ClarkyClarky IndianaPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    If you can't afford an Omega, buy something less expensive that is still a fair quality item. Even if you have to buy quartz.

    If you must have a Bond watch, save your dollars and buy a real Bond watch.

    Here is where I take offense, The Omega Seamaster Professional from Goldeneye was a quartz watch. If you are going to trash talk and be a snob, at least know what you are talking about.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited March 2008
    Hello Zorin ;)
    I think Herr Michael meant, that if you don't have the cash for a real Omega watch, you'd better buy a quality quartz watch (such as Seiko) instead of going for a mechanical copy watch and I agree.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited March 2008
    Clarky wrote:

    Here is where I take offense, The Omega Seamaster Professional from Goldeneye was a quartz watch.

    Off-topic:

    ;)Infact Omega used a prototype with mechanical movement and spring-preload escapement, that's why the second hand jumped ;)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Clarky wrote:
    If you can't afford an Omega, buy something less expensive that is still a fair quality item. Even if you have to buy quartz.

    If you must have a Bond watch, save your dollars and buy a real Bond watch.

    Here is where I take offense, The Omega Seamaster Professional from Goldeneye was a quartz watch. If you are going to trash talk and be a snob, at least know what you are talking about.

    I don't think it has anything to do with being a snob. (I own the Quartz Goldeneye Seamaster, by the way). It is just that copying someone's work is ILLEGAL, and we shouldn't really be supporting that.
  • Herr MichaelHerr Michael Posts: 360MI6 Agent
    The others have understood what I wrote in my post. Apparently, some have reading comprehension problems.
  • TylerTyler Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    Obviously some people who are always first off the mark to knock these "copies" as cheaply made Chinese/Russian pieces of junk, have not seen the "high-end" replicas out there. I have an Omega Seamaster (the real thing) and I have seen "high end" copies in certain places here in the US...the watches are totally indistinguishable! Yeah, thats right! without taking the back off the watches and looking, you can't tell. I've seen magazine articles that also make this point. Everything is correct, the movement, the colors, the weight, the feel....Everything! so not all these copies are cheap Hong Kong junk that falls apart the second you put it on..... They don't come cheap either :/
    Never fear the event
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    That is what the Cigar Aficionado article discussed..the new replicas out there are getting better and better...they even have graduated to replicating sports cars...they use VERY high tech machines to build these often replicating the smallest details in the cases. In fact it mentions they are using advanced scanning process to perfect the look and even the feel....tikes...but they also discuss how proceeds of these sales can fund criminals etc...
  • ClarkyClarky IndianaPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    Hello Zorin ;)
    I think Herr Michael meant, that if you don't have the cash for a real Omega watch, you'd better buy a quality quartz watch (such as Seiko) instead of going for a mechanical copy watch and I agree.
    The others have understood what I wrote in my post. Apparently, some have reading comprehension problems.

    I know what was meant, I have no problem with reading comprehension, it doesn't change the fact that what was said is smack talk. It is pretentious arrogance that is offensive. The self-righteous nature of the replica threads are absolutely disgusting.

    There is no difference between buying other replica items and buying replica watches. As long as no one is misrepresenting the items in commerce, it is the same thing.

    Then someone always talks about how it is illegal and/or it funds terrorism, organized crime, triads, tongs, etc. The terrorism support, *******s. Organized crime, a very minute percentage. Same with Triads. Tongs may be to most benefited of these groups.

    They are replicas. That is their purpose, just like any other. I have been fortunate in my life to be able to afford the real items, but I see no problem with someone else buying replicas. Hollywood uses replicas all the time for production. It allows people to wear or display high ticket items without the fear of theft or damage. :007)
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    yea i can see how the how problem can arise if the selling of replica watches do at one point or another could fund criminals, but on the other hand i dont think its totally fair to berate someone for buying a replica watch, not everyone can afford the expensive Omega's or Rolex's.
  • TylerTyler Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    The article I was referring to wasn't in the Cigar afficiando which Mantis mentions, but sounds very alike. This new breed of replica is IDENTICAL to the original, the article I read, took the back of a Limited Edition 007 Seamaster and compared it to the original, even watch experts could not tell, and only after long periods of examination, was any (minute)difference found. I have no problem with anyone who wants to wear a replica of an Omega or Rolex and from what I've previously read on this subject neither has Omega or any of the major brands.....
    Never fear the event
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited March 2008
    I am sure, if you give me ANY replica watch for 1 minute, I will be able to identify it from the original. And if you give me a 5 seconds look to the movement it will be the same.

    Taking any bet on this!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • TylerTyler Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    Yeah, coz obviously the experts who checked for both magazine articles didn't have a clue....Jeez! to be honest, who cares? someone wants to buy a high end replica, thats fine...they're out there precisely for that reason, and they look just as good as the originals. Save some bucks and enjoy, but then i'm not a snob about who wears them....
    Never fear the event
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited March 2008
    I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents about "experts" in magazines.
    Come on, we all know, how these things work and what the experts are worth, if a story should go to a certain direction.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Yeah, Clarky, we're all snobs for looking down on illegal replicas. We're such jerks. Sorry for not approving of illegal counterfeits.

    Exact or near exact replicas, without proper licensing, are illegal and WRONG.
  • PaperbillPaperbill FloridaPosts: 812MI6 Agent
    Years ago I owned fake Rolexes and I always felt cheap I now own nothing but real, Omega's and Rolex. If you want a beater watch get a Pulsar or Casio. Oh and by the way, fake watches are illegal....
  • Shatterhand67Shatterhand67 Safe HousePosts: 424MI6 Agent
    The Mantis wrote:
    That is what the Cigar Aficionado article discussed..the new replicas out there are getting better and better...they even have graduated to replicating sports cars...they use VERY high tech machines to build these often replicating the smallest details in the cases. In fact it mentions they are using advanced scanning process to perfect the look and even the feel....tikes...but they also discuss how proceeds of these sales can fund criminals etc...

    This link speaks to Mantis' note of sportscars being replicated: Italy recently busted a ring building fake Ferraris which they sold as cheap as $30,000. So if anyone has questions about the legality of replicas I think you have your answer here.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23393826/from/ET/

    I agree with those who say that we should not support the purchase of replicas. Of course there are other manufacturers that sell similar products and I think those are a cost effective alternative. An example would be buying an Invicta instead of a Rolex. Yes it looks similar but at least it is not advertising itself AS a Rolex. If you buy a fake Rolex or Omega you may fool some of the people some of the time but you'll ALWAYS know.

    I guess it all boils down to what you want to do with your eternal soul. I say stay on the side of the angels.
    "I musht be dreaming."
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