Kerim Bay's Death

JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
I couldn't find a thread for this, so I'll start a new topic.

I'm confused at how Kerim Bay died in FRWL. We just see him and the assassin both dead - but how did they kill each other? Kerim seemed to be under control? Or was it Red Grant that killed both of them? Can anyone help?
1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby

Comments

  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    It was Red Grant who killed them--Bond figures it out when Grant has him on his knees.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    I thought it might have been - thanks for clearing that up.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    and didnt the actor commit suicide shortly after filming?
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    and didnt the actor commit suicide shortly after filming?

    Yes--Pedro Armendariz had terminal cancer. When he found out about it, Terence Young re-arranged the shooting schedule so all of Armendariz's scenes could be filmed, and Young himself doubled Armendariz in a few shots. After Armendariz finished filming he shot himself in the heart rather than endure a lengthy, agonizing death.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    and didnt the actor commit suicide shortly after filming?

    Yes--Pedro Armendariz had terminal cancer. When he found out about it, Terence Young re-arranged the shooting schedule so all of Armendariz's scenes could be filmed, and Young himself doubled Armendariz in a few shots. After Armendariz finished filming he shot himself in the heart rather than endure a lengthy, agonizing death.

    He put on a great performance in the film to say he was going through all that
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • xrafflexraffle Posts: 4MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    and didnt the actor commit suicide shortly after filming?

    Yes--Pedro Armendariz had terminal cancer. When he found out about it, Terence Young re-arranged the shooting schedule so all of Armendariz's scenes could be filmed, and Young himself doubled Armendariz in a few shots. After Armendariz finished filming he shot himself in the heart rather than endure a lengthy, agonizing death.

    Yeah, I just found that out when I watched the documentary on the DVD. Very sad to hear something like that.
  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    This is one reason why I love Grant as a villian - he seems so in control and everything, so calculating.

    And I think its a strong point that we dont see Grant kill them, it makes him much more threatening to see how he could confuse even Bond.
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Pedro Armendariz was one of the biggest stars of Mexican Cinema. He is famous in the US for his work with John Ford / John Wayne. He was a great actor, and his death was entirely too soon.
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