I respect wilson for this decision. Although I am in agreement with you all in saying its a pain in the ass waiting and waiting sometimes its good to take a breather and re group ... usually the more time taken with something the better it is...
we dont want Bond films coming out every year... I know it would take it back to the Cubb and Harry days I know that !
but if that was to happen dpwn all you would get is recycled material which you have seen before.
I am happy either way .... but I just dont want the kind of Gap like between LTK and Goldeneye
Rest assured, that any gap that exists between Qos and Bond 23 will be filled with Wilson and Broccoli's remake of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang starring Daniel Craig and Drew Barrymore.
Well, if you saw Infamous you know that Craig CAN sing and his voice is pretty good. But Drew Barrymore. . .sorry: the charm of that Pillsbury Doughgirl has always escaped me!
Well, if you saw Infamous you know that Craig CAN sing and his voice is pretty good. But Drew Barrymore. . .sorry: the charm of that Pillsbury Doughgirl has always escaped me!
Maybe have 007 go undercover at a karaoke bar in a future Bond film?
Well, if you saw Infamous you know that Craig CAN sing and his voice is pretty good. But Drew Barrymore. . .sorry: the charm of that Pillsbury Doughgirl has always escaped me!
Maybe have 007 go undercover at a karaoke bar in a future Bond film?
If Simon Cowell were James Bond and not Daniel Craig it might work
I agree, its a long time to wait for a story continuation. But Daniel Craig is def the right man for the job
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I like how you said, Michael G. Wilson could be forced to pick up his tired a**.
Daniel Craig has no other film to make after Quantum of Solace. The film "I, Lucifer" is currently on hold with no announced start date. If they did begin "I, Lucifer" during late 2009, then we won't see "Bond 23" in 2010. If they decide to make "I, Lucifer" in the summer/fall of 2009, then Daniel Craig would be available for "Bond 23" (2010).
There really is no reason to delay "Bond 23" (2010) and I am sure MGM would love to have a "James Bond" film in pre-production and filming soon.
If Mr. Wilson is tired (notice Producer Barbara Broccoli is not confirming a break of any kind yet) then maybe they should bring in Tina Banta and Tony Broccoli into the producing team.:007)
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Also in the Broccoli Family is Tina Banta and the adopted son, Tony Broccoli, however I do not know if they are in the film business or as educated in it as Barbara Broccoli is. I do not know if Barbara Broccoli has any grown children. The Broccoli's can stay in the "James Bond" business for at least another 20 years as long as Barbara has the energy and getty-up-and-go to do it. MGM can now "put a wiggle on it" as "Miss Moneypenny" would say.
I wonder if the longer break has anything to do with the reported deal between EON and Columbia pictures to make some other films?
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I wonder if the longer break has anything to do with the reported deal between EON and Columbia pictures to make some other films?
I sure hope not...I'm all for them expanding their reach (even though they've made it pretty clear they're looking for British screenwriters for the new projects )...but I'd hate to see it divert them from their primary mission, which ought to be James Bond 007, IMO.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
A little run down of the rumors in the news today, some we knew, some we didn't. There's an DC interview too, and Michael W. wants to take a "Bond break" for a while. 8-)
A little run down of the rumors in the news today, some we knew, some we didn't. There's an DC interview too, and Michael W. wants to take a "Bond break" for a while. 8-)
Just curious. Does anyone know who has the final say on whether there is a break or not? I have not heard anything from Babs about this so don't know how she feels. Could she theoretically go on to the next film without Wilson? And doesn't MGM have a say in this? I would think they would be wanting Bond 23 as soon as possible to capitalize on the success of CR and (I am assuming) QoS.
I am not surprised Wilson is considering such a foolish idea. I still do not know what happened to him. He was so cool back in the 1980s, but I guess Cubby kept him in line then.
Again, they are crapping on the traditions of the franchise. Bar Sean's first four flicks, 007 has been an every other year film franchise. TSLWM took a while due to Saltzman leaving and a fire and GE took even longer for a bunch of reasons that will probably never happen again.
So, why wait until 2011? As far as I know, neither producer's health is failing. Their screenwriters did not just die. They are not tied up in a legal battle with anyone. Their last film was a hit. Therefore, proceed to filming Bond 23 in early 2010 for a November 2010 release. It's not that hard, Mickey!
Why does he claim to need a break anyways? He no longer writes the scripts. It's not like he is burned out creatively. If Cubby could produce 5 films in 10 years during the 1980s when he was in his SEVENTIES and overweight, surely Mickey can do the same thing in his sixties. He even has a much younger partner in Babs helping him. Also, he looks pretty healthy to me. Not that Cubby wasn't healthy. Lots of men can't get away with being that big and live to be 87. But then again, not everyone is Cubby! )
The longer the gap between films, the less films you will get out of the Bond actor. e.g.-over 12 years period, if it's a film every 2 years you'd get 6 films, if every 3 years you'd get 4 films,
and Craig would be 52 in 2020!
Also in the long term Broccolli/Wilson producers will need to bring up their producing sucessors
or the series might disappear when they retire?
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So Mickey needs a break does he? Well Mick we had a 3 year wait for Die Another Day and then a 4 year wait for Casino Royale. You DO NOT need to have a break.
Does anyone know what that giant eye prop thing is in the middle of the water?? I haven't seen it mentioned before!
That is part of a floating opera stage in Austria. The eye is, apparently, a big part of the stage set for the opera, Tosca if I remember right. Bond attends the opera in the film, and gets to do secret agent stuff that interrupts the production B-)
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Well, MW has a different perspective. I mean, he feels he's done the films time and time over. He wants to pace himself because he'll be doing this til the end of his life. In which case, hurrying up is the last thing you want. Broccoli and Saltman, on the other hand, were just making hay while the sun shined, and didn't think it would go on forever, plus the success had been earned by then and so felt different to when it's inherited and a millstone around your neck, albeit a profitable one.
I do feel the missing satirical aspect of Bond makes it harder to generate new material and new angles. Connery and Moore were mickey-takers in essence, but since Dalton the character has been less like that and it seems to give him less to work with. Moreover, QoS from what I've seen looks a very traditional Bond film, almost a bit too much so. Maybe Wilson just thought, here we go again...
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."
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I do feel the missing satirical aspect of Bond makes it harder to generate new material and new angles. Connery and Moore were mickey-takers in essence, but since Dalton the character has been less like that and it seems to give him less to work with. Moreover, QoS from what I've seen looks a very traditional Bond film, almost a bit too much so. Maybe Wilson just thought, here we go again...
I think it's much more difficult conjuring 'Bond stories' out of whole cloth---without at least having the option of using or discarding a books contents!---than it was to adapt, however loosely...which is why I hope they decide to continue to 'cherry pick' unused elements from the Flemings: "The Hildebrand Rarity" or TSWLM as PTSs for instance, et al.
We're (naturally!) going to disagree on this, but I think the humour is still very much there---the 'deadpan spoofing' as Maibaum called it, all those years ago---in fact this aspect is on better display in CR than any time in decades, IMO. I'd hate to think that they need more time in order to figure out how to 'joke it up'
[That said...watch for an Elvis joke in QoS! ]
Your earlier point about the pressure of living up to the legacy is a fair one---but MW can always retire, and leave the millstone round Barbara's neck. Or they can sell the millstone outright, and retire to a quiet place in the sun for the rest of their days.
When all is said and done, we'll have to endure whatever break between films Eon decide upon. I can respect them for taking their time, and getting it right, since I haven't always been completely fond of their "a film every two years, no matter what!" stretches...
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
It saddens me that after october 31st im gonna have to wait 3 years for the next Bond film, as soon as they got over the 4 year hiatus after DAD and started the franchise in a fresh, new direction then delay it for another year after the second film, that means ill be a junior in college when Bond 23 coms out and im a senior in high school right now.
Don't worry, you have your whole life ahead of you for Bond films.
I've been around since the first and they still make 'em.
Indeed. Bond is in fine health; he'll likely outlive us all.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I knew that this is gonna happen. I knew it under the Casino Royale already. I wonder too why they want to keep some vacation even in the 21 century there has been two Bond movie only and third is coming.
I'm not worried about director changes even it could be a good idea to create somekind of bond between Bond actor and director and producers of course. I wonder, would Daniel Craig want to come back after two great (I hope great) films and three (or four) years break fearing the lasting mark of Bond? We see what'll happen but Daniel is great actor. Maybe I still want to see another one in the role of James Bond because I want to see as many actors in the role as possible. And two films is enough for one actor. "It's not the number, it's the style." That's why Dalton is the best Bond ever
But finally I hope Judi Dench will retire from the role of "M". She has been the best but has done six films already and that's enough for her. After three years break she is WAY TOO old. Little younger guy for the next movie...
Quality matters to me, and I'll wait for a good product that everyone is prepared and refreshed to make. My life does not revolve around movies, I do not need a new Bond film on some sort of fixed schedule as if I was on some sort of medication for sustenance. This really does not matter to me.
That said, as we know we will be getting a new director, what are your thoughts on a director for Bond 23? Frankly, I like the idea of Christopher Nolan. He is a big fan of the series who has said his work on the Batman films are inspired by the early Bond films. He could keep the films within the tone that Craig and Company are working on, and he knows how to handle a big film and a tight script; which maybe helpful on the set to avoid careless re-writes and bad shots.
Thoughts?
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My life does not revolve around movies, I do not need a new Bond film on some sort of fixed schedule as if I was on some sort of medication for sustenance. This really does not matter to me.
That said, as we know we will be getting a new director, what are your thoughts on a director for Bond 23? Frankly, I like the idea of Christopher Nolan. He is a big fan of the series who has said his work on the Batman films are inspired by the early Bond films. He could keep the films within the tone that Craig and Company are working on, and he knows how to handle a big film and a tight script; which maybe helpful on the set to avoid careless re-writes and bad shots.
Thoughts?
Who cares?
Okay...since I AM one of those who needs a Bond film for sustenance...
I think Nolan would be an excellent choice for Bond...but then that would seem to presume that he isn't doing another Batman film, and I'm not sure anything's been settled along those lines. If Eon takes an operational pause between QoS and #23 of an extra year, it would probably be filming concurrently with a third Christian Bale Batman film, if there is to be one (and I surely hope there will be! B-) ). Even if Eon takes the more painful (for pathetic Bond fanatics like myself and many others) pause of four years, it's difficult to tell whether or when schedules will line up to accomodate it.
Lastly, it doesn't seem likely that Eon would hire Nolan---and if they did, would he willingly put their yolk round his neck? I guess we'll see.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I just want them to bring back Q and Moneypenny in the next film. I also love Dame Judy Dench as M, but it may be time for a replacement at that part as well. John Cleese was already introduced, so I think it would be great to keep him on as Q. There are many options for Moneypenny, actress in her early 40's... what about for the part of M? I have a few ideas. I think it would be great to introduce M as a new replacement, and keep him Sir Miles Messervy. Also M would naturally have to be older than Bond, but not past retirement age. So between 45 and 65. How about:
Kenneth Branagh-48,
Tom Wilkinson- 60
Brendan Gleeson-53
Julian Fellows-59
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we dont want Bond films coming out every year... I know it would take it back to the Cubb and Harry days I know that !
but if that was to happen dpwn all you would get is recycled material which you have seen before.
I am happy either way .... but I just dont want the kind of Gap like between LTK and Goldeneye
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Maybe have 007 go undercover at a karaoke bar in a future Bond film?
If Simon Cowell were James Bond and not Daniel Craig it might work
Daniel Craig has no other film to make after Quantum of Solace. The film "I, Lucifer" is currently on hold with no announced start date. If they did begin "I, Lucifer" during late 2009, then we won't see "Bond 23" in 2010. If they decide to make "I, Lucifer" in the summer/fall of 2009, then Daniel Craig would be available for "Bond 23" (2010).
There really is no reason to delay "Bond 23" (2010) and I am sure MGM would love to have a "James Bond" film in pre-production and filming soon.
If Mr. Wilson is tired (notice Producer Barbara Broccoli is not confirming a break of any kind yet) then maybe they should bring in Tina Banta and Tony Broccoli into the producing team.:007)
I sure hope not...I'm all for them expanding their reach (even though they've made it pretty clear they're looking for British screenwriters for the new projects
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
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Just curious. Does anyone know who has the final say on whether there is a break or not? I have not heard anything from Babs about this so don't know how she feels. Could she theoretically go on to the next film without Wilson? And doesn't MGM have a say in this? I would think they would be wanting Bond 23 as soon as possible to capitalize on the success of CR and (I am assuming) QoS.
Again, they are crapping on the traditions of the franchise. Bar Sean's first four flicks, 007 has been an every other year film franchise. TSLWM took a while due to Saltzman leaving and a fire and GE took even longer for a bunch of reasons that will probably never happen again.
So, why wait until 2011? As far as I know, neither producer's health is failing. Their screenwriters did not just die. They are not tied up in a legal battle with anyone. Their last film was a hit. Therefore, proceed to filming Bond 23 in early 2010 for a November 2010 release. It's not that hard, Mickey!
Why does he claim to need a break anyways? He no longer writes the scripts. It's not like he is burned out creatively. If Cubby could produce 5 films in 10 years during the 1980s when he was in his SEVENTIES and overweight, surely Mickey can do the same thing in his sixties. He even has a much younger partner in Babs helping him. Also, he looks pretty healthy to me. Not that Cubby wasn't healthy. Lots of men can't get away with being that big and live to be 87. But then again, not everyone is Cubby!
and Craig would be 52 in 2020!
Also in the long term Broccolli/Wilson producers will need to bring up their producing sucessors
or the series might disappear when they retire?
De Bleuchamp.
"Merry Christmas 007!"
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Does anyone know what that giant eye prop thing is in the middle of the water?? I haven't seen it mentioned before!
That is part of a floating opera stage in Austria. The eye is, apparently, a big part of the stage set for the opera, Tosca if I remember right. Bond attends the opera in the film, and gets to do secret agent stuff that interrupts the production B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I do feel the missing satirical aspect of Bond makes it harder to generate new material and new angles. Connery and Moore were mickey-takers in essence, but since Dalton the character has been less like that and it seems to give him less to work with. Moreover, QoS from what I've seen looks a very traditional Bond film, almost a bit too much so. Maybe Wilson just thought, here we go again...
Roger Moore 1927-2017
I think it's much more difficult conjuring 'Bond stories' out of whole cloth---without at least having the option of using or discarding a books contents!---than it was to adapt, however loosely...which is why I hope they decide to continue to 'cherry pick' unused elements from the Flemings: "The Hildebrand Rarity" or TSWLM as PTSs for instance, et al.
We're (naturally!) going to disagree on this, but I think the humour is still very much there---the 'deadpan spoofing' as Maibaum called it, all those years ago---in fact this aspect is on better display in CR than any time in decades, IMO. I'd hate to think that they need more time in order to figure out how to 'joke it up'
[That said...watch for an Elvis joke in QoS!
Your earlier point about the pressure of living up to the legacy is a fair one---but MW can always retire, and leave the millstone round Barbara's neck. Or they can sell the millstone outright, and retire to a quiet place in the sun for the rest of their days.
When all is said and done, we'll have to endure whatever break between films Eon decide upon. I can respect them for taking their time, and getting it right, since I haven't always been completely fond of their "a film every two years, no matter what!" stretches...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I've been around since the first and they still make 'em.
Indeed. Bond is in fine health; he'll likely outlive us all.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I'm not worried about director changes even it could be a good idea to create somekind of bond between Bond actor and director and producers of course. I wonder, would Daniel Craig want to come back after two great (I hope great) films and three (or four) years break fearing the lasting mark of Bond? We see what'll happen but Daniel is great actor. Maybe I still want to see another one in the role of James Bond because I want to see as many actors in the role as possible. And two films is enough for one actor. "It's not the number, it's the style." That's why Dalton is the best Bond ever
But finally I hope Judi Dench will retire from the role of "M". She has been the best but has done six films already and that's enough for her. After three years break she is WAY TOO old. Little younger guy for the next movie...
That said, as we know we will be getting a new director, what are your thoughts on a director for Bond 23? Frankly, I like the idea of Christopher Nolan. He is a big fan of the series who has said his work on the Batman films are inspired by the early Bond films. He could keep the films within the tone that Craig and Company are working on, and he knows how to handle a big film and a tight script; which maybe helpful on the set to avoid careless re-writes and bad shots.
Thoughts?
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Who cares?
Okay...since I AM one of those who needs a Bond film for sustenance...
I think Nolan would be an excellent choice for Bond...but then that would seem to presume that he isn't doing another Batman film, and I'm not sure anything's been settled along those lines. If Eon takes an operational pause between QoS and #23 of an extra year, it would probably be filming concurrently with a third Christian Bale Batman film, if there is to be one (and I surely hope there will be! B-) ). Even if Eon takes the more painful (for pathetic Bond fanatics like myself and many others) pause of four years, it's difficult to tell whether or when schedules will line up to accomodate it.
Lastly, it doesn't seem likely that Eon would hire Nolan---and if they did, would he willingly put their yolk round his neck? I guess we'll see.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Kenneth Branagh-48,
Tom Wilkinson- 60
Brendan Gleeson-53
Julian Fellows-59
Alan Rickman
Peter Mullan
Michael Kitchen (Tanner returns
Trevor Eve
Helen Mirren
Ken Stott
Pete Postlethwaite