Photos from Lake Garda (car chase)

emtiem

Here are some pics from a week or two ago of the stuntmen with the cars used in the Italian car chase (Aston Martin and Alfa Romeo 159 Ti):

http://trentinocorrierealpi.repubblica.it/multimedia/home/1971437/1

cpoulos62

Nice, thanks for sharing.

Loeffelholz

Thanks for posting, em {[] Looks like lovely country for a high speed chase...this is the sort of thing that separates Bond from the rest, IMO...

Nightshooter

Wow- is this a first for Bond in a black Aston? Or is it a dark grey?

Hardyboy

I wonder if once Bond goes black, he'll never go back?

Anyway, interesting that the film's title in Italian is "007 Quantum." Does that basically mean "A Bit of 007?" Where's Alessandra when you need her?

00-Agent

The black Aston Martin DBS and the Alpha Romero 159 look great, but my favorite pic is of Olga.:x

Mr Martini

As always I love the Aston. But that Alfa Romeo is sweet. Definatly looks like a villians car.

Higgins

Nightshooter wrote:

Wow- is this a first for Bond in a black Aston? Or is it a dark grey?

I have been asking myself this. On the other hand, the shot may have been done during preparations, where they are using various cars. Wasn't it the same in CR, I think, that I have seen a white Aston Martin there?

emtiem

Nightshooter wrote:

Wow- is this a first for Bond in a black Aston? Or is it a dark grey?

Looks like a dark grey/charcoal to me. But then the 'casino ice' colour the CR Aston was in could look quite dark depending on the conditions.

Here's a YouTube vid of a bizarre camera contraption:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c8sSlF8hfM

Agent_M

for CR the stunt guys had some of the early test verions that were held together with tape! so perhaps its something simmilar

Higgins

well, that youtube video shows at second 25 a similar dark car under a kind of tent.
I would guess, that this car is meant for closeups and they are trying to keep it as clean as possible.

So, I would asume from this and the fact, that the car with the cam on the roof and all the others standing around there are also dark, that the DBS, which we are seeing in QoS will have this colour.

Great find, emtiem

Moonraker 5

It's definitely not Casino Ice (which Aston now calls Casino Royale since the DBS went on general sale). I'd say it's definitely a charcoal, greyish scheme.

Wonder how the Alfa ties in to the Ford deal... ?:)

(And why no registration plates on any of them?)

Higgins

Moonraker 5 wrote:

Wonder how the Alfa ties in to the Ford deal... ?:)

(And why no registration plates on any of them?)

I think, it will match well as giving the competing product to the baddies may transfer some negative image to the brand (which is nonsense imho).

About the license plates: I know, that Alfa has a kind of special permission in Italy to carry the plates not in the middle, it can be mounted at the sides (and I can see at least some bright tape on the place, where a plate can be fixed). Or probably the number plates (and hopefully not some additional missiles) will be CGIed afterwards.

Moonraker 5

Bondtoys wrote:

I think, it will match well as giving the competing product to the baddies may transfer some negative image to the brand (which is nonsense imho).

Didn't harm Jaguar any in CR! It boosted XJ sales by 36%, apparently. It was then a Ford brand too.

Bondtoys wrote:

About the license plates: I know, that Alfa has a kind of special permission in Italy to carry the plates not in the middle, it can be mounted at the sides (and I can see at least some bright tape on the place, where a plate can be fixed). Or probably the number plates (and hopefully not some additional missiles) will be CGIed afterwards.

Yep, Alfa plates are set to the side in the UK to avoid the grille centrepiece. CGI'ing them doesn't make much economic sense though...

Higgins

ok, I am splitting hairs here: Was Mr. White really a baddie? I mean, he shot Le Chiffre and saved 007s butt.

From the Chile footage seen on youtube, I think, that I can see DC falling out of the brand new Volvo XC60 and maybe, the producers felt, that there may be a bit too many Ford company cars in the movie (Olga is leaving a Range Rover there, too).

Maybe 007 is gonna heavily damage the baddie car, which may not be good for a Motor company car, who knows.

(I am aware, that the main baddie car in DAD is also a Jaguar and that in CR, we have seen almost exclusively Ford MC cars, but maybe, this has something, that was decided to change)

I agree with you, the presense of Alfa and the lack of the number plates does not make too much sense and trying to find reasons for it is purely speculation right now.

emtiem

Moonraker 5 wrote:

It's definitely not Casino Ice (which Aston now calls Casino Royale since the DBS went on general sale). I'd say it's definitely a charcoal, greyish scheme.

I'm sure you're right, but as an aside it's interesting to see how dark the CR car can seem sometimes- here's some shots from the filming of the scene where Bond and Vesper drive to meet Mathis (these are from Fifth Gear so aren't Eon images, so hopefully you won't consider them naughty):




Surprisningly dark-looking, and yet silver in the film.

As for the numberplates, well I suppose they just haven't stuck 'em on yet! There were some pictures from the CR set of the DBS with UK plates- they obviously hadn't fitted the film ones by then either. I'm bit more disappointed that it looks like these Astons might be left hand drive. It doesn't matter much, but I do prefer Bond on the right, silly though it is.

The Alfa/Ford thing is a bit more odd though- perhaps the director/producers put their foot down and demanded an Italian car for Italy.

emtiem

Actually- I've just noticed by comparing those pictures that the new DBS has much less bling headlamps than the CR one!

Villiers

I suspect that the reason is that the Casino Royale cars were pre-production versions whereas the new ones will be production, customer spec, cars.

Loeffelholz

emtiem wrote:

Moonraker 5 wrote:

It's definitely not Casino Ice (which Aston now calls Casino Royale since the DBS went on general sale). I'd say it's definitely a charcoal, greyish scheme.

I'm sure you're right, but as an aside it's interesting to see how dark the CR car can seem sometimes...Surprisningly dark-looking, and yet silver in the film.

It's a good point; perhaps it depends upon how the car is lit? I wonder...

Even if, as M5 says, the Aston is more of a dark charcoal-grey (or black) this time round, it's still a DBS... B-)

Napoleon Plural

Black looks cooler against this kind of background imo, like grey was ideal against more colourful Swiss Alps in GF.

Loeffelholz

If it does turn out to be a darker charcoal or black...watch for the Art Directer's assertion (at some point, perhaps on the eventual DVD extras!) that it is a metaphor for Bond's darker state of mind---his quest for revenge... :v

eyehateusernames

The DBS does seem to if not be black, to at least be a much darker grey than in CR. I like the comment about the darker vengeful mood. That could also explain the black-faced watch (instead of blue in CR), rumoured black holster (instead of tan in CR), and black jacket despite the fact that he's wearing brown shoes & belt.

Tee Hee

Loeffelholz wrote:

If it does turn out to be a darker charcoal or black...watch for the Art Directer's assertion (at some point, perhaps on the eventual DVD extras!) that it is a metaphor for Bond's darker state of mind---his quest for revenge... :v

Wait, wait, don't tell me. The Aston Martin's covered in symbiote right?

Loeffelholz

Tee Hee wrote:

Loeffelholz wrote:

If it does turn out to be a darker charcoal or black...watch for the Art Directer's assertion (at some point, perhaps on the eventual DVD extras!) that it is a metaphor for Bond's darker state of mind---his quest for revenge... :v

Wait, wait, don't tell me. The Aston Martin's covered in symbiote right?

OMG! )

emtiem

eyehateusernames wrote:

The DBS does seem to if not be black, to at least be a much darker grey than in CR.

Yeah- it's not black. I'd say charcoal too.

Higgins

eyehateusernames wrote:

... That could also explain the black-faced watch (instead of blue in CR), rumoured black holster (instead of tan in CR), and black jacket despite the fact that he's wearing brown shoes & belt.

Loeffelholz wrote:

If it does turn out to be a darker charcoal or black...watch for the Art Directer's assertion (at some point, perhaps on the eventual DVD extras!) that it is a metaphor for Bond's darker state of mind---his quest for revenge... :v

Isn't this a little bit over-metaphoric
I know, that everyone tries to say something brilliant in interviews, but it may all boil down to the point, that the DBS looks better in black than in grey. Or, maybe the only purpose is to draw attention to the fact, that 007 has a NEW car.
And if they really need the holster colour or the dial of a watch to express a movie mood, I am sorry, but then my german fellow Marc Forster is doing a pretty bad job :007)

Loeffelholz

Bondtoys wrote:

eyehateusernames wrote:

... That could also explain the black-faced watch (instead of blue in CR), rumoured black holster (instead of tan in CR), and black jacket despite the fact that he's wearing brown shoes & belt.

Loeffelholz wrote:

If it does turn out to be a darker charcoal or black...watch for the Art Directer's assertion (at some point, perhaps on the eventual DVD extras!) that it is a metaphor for Bond's darker state of mind---his quest for revenge... :v

Isn't this a little bit over-metaphoric
I know, that everyone tries to say something brilliant in interviews, but it may all boil down to the point, that the DBS looks better in black than in grey. Or, maybe the only purpose is to draw attention to the fact, that 007 has a NEW car.
And if they really need the holster colour or the dial of a watch to express a movie mood, I am sorry, but then my german fellow Marc Forster is doing a pretty bad job :007)

Well...I can tell you, there's hardly a limit to the extent to which these things are thought out---honestly, believe it or not.

I'm not saying it will happen...but I fully expect it. Go Marc Forster! B-)

darenhat

I can see them giving some thought to the color of the car. If someone automatically chooses a gray Aston Martin because that's the norm, and someone decides that they want to be different and use a new color, the first question is 'what color, then?'. The director, or producer, is not going to say "I dunno. just pick one." They're more likely to say, "If we're going to choose a different color, let's choose one that fits the narrative."

Loeffelholz

Quite right {[]

In the limited spy shots we've seen, Bond is seen in dark suits and dark casual wear. If we see a close-up of his Omega, I wouldn't be at all surprised it it had a black face.

In a talk about the teaser poster, I mentioned a reference to hues of black and white, with regard to the limited color palette, and I remember my brother posting something to the effect that the depiction of barren desert ground was not mere happenstance. In a subsequent interview, Forster discusses the reasons for the high-altitude Chilean desert location, and it did in fact hearken back to previous speculation.

My brother was more on target than I was; hardly surprising :007)

emtiem

Well the production designer will probably pick it, and most probably to fit any sort of colour palette they've got going (which could very well come from the story as you suggest). I'm sure they'll also have considered how the car will look on film in this environment, which is presumably its main appearance: how it'll contrast with the colours of the scenery etc.

It's like Tomorrow Never Dies: one of the few Bonds to have a really recognisable colour palettes- it's all silvers, blacks and reds, that film. The car was silver- it suited a BMW, harks back to the DB5 (like the numberplate) but it also fits the film's palette.

Alessandra

Guys, hi. I am sorry for not having been around, I have PLENTY of news on Lake Garda and Bond. Latest is that they went off road today during the car chase at the first turn, and the stuntman was saved by miracle, he ended up in the water with the car. The black Aston Martin that is. Please let me know where you want me to post news, whether on the previous topic on Lake como and Garda or here.

I also have info on the sequence they are filming. Just let me know where, and I'll give you photos with specifics and all the rest. {[]

Also... people here aren't exactly pleased with being stuck on the road in traffic because the Gardesana occidentale is being closed at alternate days for various hours for them to film the car chase ) ) But everyone's very proud of having Bond around and we're of course teasing Lake Como people as there's huge rivalry between us and them.. let's just say that one of the places where they will be filming (Tremosine, which is what I had found out about weeks when I last posted)was defined by Winston Churchill "the eighth wonder of the world".

I will post photos in a minute.