Carter-The Worst Bond Ally Ever!

discovolantediscovolante los angeles ca usaPosts: 66MI6 Agent
This might belong in the Casino Royale Forum, so mods move it if you wish...Carter, Bond's helper in the beginning of the Madagascar snake-mongoose fight scene has to go down as the worst Bond ally ever. I've watched CR at least 5 or 6 times and Carter never fails to annoy the **** out of me. Here's why he is the worst.
First of all, What exactly is his job at MI6? He can't possibly be a double O, so maybe he is a lesser ranked agent. However, he seems to have absolutely no surveillance skills at all. Bond has to repeatedly tell him to stop touching his ear, a sure sign that he has an ear piece. Also, why would MI6 choose Carter to be the man on the ground, performing the up close surveillance on the bomber? "Hey M, I have a great idea! Let's take the whitest, goofiest guy that we have and insert him into a crowd of Madagascar natives watching a snake fight. I'm sure he'll blend in". Even Bond, a rookie double O agent himself, has the common sense to hang back and observe from a distance. Then, after he's spotted, Carter continues his ineptitude by pulling out his gun in the middle of the crowd. Finally, he does us all a favor by falling into the snake pit, never to be seen or heard from again. Obviously Carter was not that important because when M is chastising Bond about shooting the bomber, she never even mentions the demise of Carter. At first I thought that perhaps Bond was training Carter, but that doesn't make sense because, as stated above, Bond is a rookie double O himself.
There is a history of Bond allies being killed in the films. They are almost sacrificial lambs, giving Bond a personal vendetta to go along with the completion of his mission. Quarrel in DN, Paris in TND, Della and Felix in LTK, etc.
I realize I have given too much thought to an extremely minor character in CR, but I'm curious if anybody agrees or disagrees with my choosing of worst ally ever.

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  • Cynjin SmythCynjin Smyth Rocky MountiansPosts: 98MI6 Agent
    This might belong in the Casino Royale Forum, so mods move it if you wish...Carter, Bond's helper in the beginning of the Madagascar snake-mongoose fight scene has to go down as the worst Bond ally ever. I've watched CR at least 5 or 6 times and Carter never fails to annoy the **** out of me. Here's why he is the worst.
    First of all, What exactly is his job at MI6? He can't possibly be a double O, so maybe he is a lesser ranked agent. However, he seems to have absolutely no surveillance skills at all. Bond has to repeatedly tell him to stop touching his ear, a sure sign that he has an ear piece. Also, why would MI6 choose Carter to be the man on the ground, performing the up close surveillance on the bomber? "Hey M, I have a great idea! Let's take the whitest, goofiest guy that we have and insert him into a crowd of Madagascar natives watching a snake fight. I'm sure he'll blend in". Even Bond, a rookie double O agent himself, has the common sense to hang back and observe from a distance. Then, after he's spotted, Carter continues his ineptitude by pulling out his gun in the middle of the crowd. Finally, he does us all a favor by falling into the snake pit, never to be seen or heard from again. Obviously Carter was not that important because when M is chastising Bond about shooting the bomber, she never even mentions the demise of Carter. At first I thought that perhaps Bond was training Carter, but that doesn't make sense because, as stated above, Bond is a rookie double O himself.
    There is a history of Bond allies being killed in the films. They are almost sacrificial lambs, giving Bond a personal vendetta to go along with the completion of his mission. Quarrel in DN, Paris in TND, Della and Felix in LTK, etc.
    I realize I have given too much thought to an extremely minor character in CR, but I'm curious if anybody agrees or disagrees with my choosing of worst ally ever.

    So worst Bond ally, I hope this isn't like the the Bond girl thread. I would say the French agent in FYEO. As much as I love this movie I still don't understand his part. He tags along just to get killd, though his death leads to the (IMO) best Bond revenge sceen in any Bond movie.
    Bond: You don't think I enjoyed what we did this evening, do you? What I did tonight was for King and country! You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?
    Fiona: But of course, I forgot your ego, Mr. Bond. James Bond, who only has to make love to a woman and she starts to hear heavenly choirs singing.
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,707MI6 Agent
    I thought M said in one of the films she has no problem sending a man out to die. Maybe Carter uttered Ms first name ;)
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    I like Carter!

    He fit Dr. No's description perfectly of an agent who was nothing more than, "A stupid policeman - whose luck had run out!"

    ;)
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,857Chief of Staff
    I would say the French agent in FYEO. As much as I love this movie I still don't understand his part. He tags along just to get killd, though his death leads to the (IMO) best Bond revenge sceen in any Bond movie.

    I would think he's Italian rather than French, but I agree that he's only there to be killed off.
  • mr zorinmr zorin Posts: 16MI6 Agent
    Maybe not the worst but he's got to be the dummest.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out not to put your hand on your ear.You may as well call out I work for the secret service.
  • A7ceA7ce Birmingham, EnglandPosts: 656MI6 Agent
    "Hey M, I have a great idea! Let's take the whitest, goofiest guy that we have and insert him into a crowd of Madagascar natives watching a snake fight. I'm sure he'll blend in".

    >>>

    Finally, he does us all a favor by falling into the snake pit, never to be seen or heard from again. .

    Ha Ha Ha.
    Yep, he was inept, my six year old nephew could have done a better surveilance job.
  • Flanker_00Flanker_00 Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    Yes I agree, Carter is a huge loser, must have been his first day or something.

    You forgot to add his ND (negligent discharge) to the list. Negligent, not accidental. What moron runs through a crowd with his finger on the trigger? I wouldn't trust this guy with a nerf gun.
  • sharpshootersharpshooter Posts: 164MI6 Agent
    Mr Martini wrote:
    I thought M said in one of the films she has no problem sending a man out to die. Maybe Carter uttered Ms first name ;)
    Good one. I don't think he's the worst; he's just a different type of ally for Bond to have in the field. Variety is always good, just like realistic and lighter tone Bond films. His poor surveillance work set up the great parkour chase, so at least that's something.
  • wordswords Buckinghamshire, EnglandPosts: 249MI6 Agent
    Well, I can see the point about Carter - but imagine how much worse things could have been if Mary Goodnight had been given that job...;)
  • sharpshootersharpshooter Posts: 164MI6 Agent
    That may be so, but I'd prefer her over Carter. At least she'd be good for something.
  • wordswords Buckinghamshire, EnglandPosts: 249MI6 Agent
    That may be so, but I'd prefer her over Carter. At least she'd be good for something.

    :)) Fair point!
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    It's guys like Carter that keep oo7 on top of M's list, and prevent her from feeding Bond to those "arse covering prigs".
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Carter is there to make Craig's Bond look good, to show him as a competent, no nonsense type. Did Carter actually die, however?

    The role is a bit of a nonentity otherwise, possible cut to ribbons in the editing stage.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
  • JADE66JADE66 Posts: 238MI6 Agent
    Carter isn't much of an ally at all. He's only around for a few seconds. No one really has a chance to like or dislike him. The worst Bond film ally of all has to be Norman Burton's Felix from Diamonds Are Forever. He's constantly dropping the ball such as when he and his team lose Tiffany at the circus. And why on Earth would he have to post a guard on Bond's hotel suite? Aren't they supposed to be on the same side?
    Carter panicked and though inept at least his reactions were human. Felix from DAF was a disaster. 007 would have been better off with the Skipper and Gilligan rather than Felix and his team of badly dressed icompetents. Felix from DAF is undoubtedly the worst.
  • hacketthackett Odds change the numbers remainPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    I thought Carter was the man accompanying M in the following scene.
  • Tee HeeTee Hee CBT Headquarters: Chicago, ILPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    hackett wrote:
    I thought Carter was the man accompanying M in the following scene.

    You're probably thinking of Villiers, M's secretary/personal assistant. Villiers basically assumed the role that would have otherwise been filled by Miss Moneypenny before the reboot. Strangely, Villiers will not appear in QoS, or any other future Bond film for that matter. Actor Tobias Menzies has reported on his Myspace page that Villiers "is no more."
    "My acting range? Left eyebrow raised, right eyebrow raised..."

    -Roger Moore
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Villiers probably put Bond on hold one time too many!

    ;)
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Bit of a waste of a character... :( He did seem like a work experience type, and brought in to emphasise Craig's macho appeal.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
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