VINTAGE Toys & RARE Finds !

scaramangasgoldengun

has anyone noticed mistakes with Bond collectables and toys ranging from the 60's - present day

the old gilbert Bond figures from the 60's the ones which came on the card backing .
take this example

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DR-NO-JAMES-BOND-SET-1965-SEAR-GILBERT_W0QQitemZ180240766680QQcmdZViewItem

on the card of the packaging when new it stated DR. NO with poision vail... did a poison vail appear in the film ?

take the Timothy dalton Sideshow figures.... he has a Walther P5 only roger moore used a P5 not dalton in any of his films ... so where did that come from ?

there are other mistakes similar to this... another being sideshow's THUNDERBALL bond figure whats that speargun about ? nouthing like any gun seen in the film even the Hasbro Action man THUNDERBALL edition had an accrate Jaguar speargun ...

anyway can you spot any mistake similar to these in toys and collectables ranging from the 60's to the present day ...

Herr Michael

Connery used a P5 in two films. I don't know that Moore or Dalton ever did.

scaramangasgoldengun

MOORE used a Walther P5 through out the entire OCTOPUSSY film ..... from start to finish ..

Connery only used one in NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN ....

and thats it ..... the only other P5 featured was used by Dario in LICENCE TO KILL when he puts it into Bond side in the cocaine factory plant at the climax of the film before Bond is but on the convair belt

Herr Michael

Yeah, my memory is starting to fail.

Walther PPK

The Exclusive Premire action figures were all poorly done. Almost all the figures of Bond looked nothing like the actors from the films, and the bodies were too skinny for the clothes that they wore.

Also the Walther PPK that came with The Spy Who Loved Me figures was not a PPK at all it was a P38
for crying out loud.

Evan with the short comings the Sideshow figures are
definatly better made these ever were.

Boris07

I've always wondered why the corgi model of the lotus esprit from the spy who loved me had a bright red 007 logo on the bonnet (hood) as it's not in the movie!

scaramangasgoldengun

also ...the very first corgi 261 Bond aston martin DB5 was gold... clearly silver / gunmetal grey in the film ..

also the Old gilbert odd Job doll was in a rope / karate suit and not a buttler suit...

keep them coming people ... its great revewing these mistakes.

also the lone star harpoon gun from the 60's looks nothing like a harpoon gun

Walther PPK

I guess that Corgi decided that gold would look better to the customers in the stores than the gray of the film version. I too also own a Lotus with a red 007 logo on the bonnet,and it is a reissued version from 1997, I guess Corgi does not want us to
forget that the is one that Bond drove.

As for the karate gi clad Odd Job, I belive that again was a marketing choice as Harold Sakata was played up a being a master martial artist in the press releases for Goldfinger. There is another action figure of him in the butler's uniform that Gilbert made, thought it is harder to find and can
collect quite the kings ransome money wise.

Smithers500

The Corgi Icon Dr No has flesh coloured hands!:o

At least he is hiding them behind his back, so the mistake is not too obvious!

scaramangasgoldengun

yea I noticed that with my corgi Dr No also .. I was hoping it was a mistake with my figure which would add a good bit of value to it... also I dont think he wore a blue suit ... ? it was a cream coloured suit when we see him at dinner with Bond

theres are endless stupid mistake with toys and yes it has to be said some of them are more than likely a marketing choice I agree with you on that one.

Mego made a great number of mistakes with there Bond dolls... I will let somone else pick them out... As I have the deluex Moore Mego Doll in nice shape and condition.. with all the accessories.. very rare... great to look at and own. but the other dolls jaws being a very bad toy .. a metal block in the mouth ... bad clothing and he is the same height as everone else. LOL

yes in the 60's every toy Bond cap gun or water pistol was always a walther p38 or a german luger style pistol.. where did this come from I have never say Bond hold a luger ever.

could it have been the long bareled walther air pistol held By sean connery which was thought to be a ling bareled luger

Asp9mm

scaramangasgoldengun wrote:

ling bareled luger

Or even a nong lalled loger )

scaramangasgoldengun

I need to stop neing in a hurry all the time LOL

cheers

Walther PPK

Yes I too have thought that it was odd that most of the toy guns put out in 1960's and 1970's were all guns that never even appeared in some of the films,Lone Star I believe even had a 007 branded Thompson submachine gun and Bond has never used one onscreen. Even during the cinema runs of AVTAK
and TLD they had toy guns that were not PPK's, just generic automatics and revolvers.




PS:Just wondering does anybody hear know when the first Walther PPK replicas were put on the market?

scaramangasgoldengun

if you are reffering to a licenced Bond replica ie a cap gun like the GOLDENEYE one with the silencer or the walther P99 with silencer released for TND and TWINE then 1995

but if you are reffering to actual llicenced PPK replicas like BB guns and air weapons from walther with walther branding etc I would say some time in the 90's

but you must realise Japan have been making realistic prop and dummy guns from the late 60's or posibly earlier... toy guns that are so real they even have pull back slides and some were made from the same materials as real guns etc .. Japan even made toy guns with relistic screw on silencers etc these were only intended for display I think ... but were snapped up as toys many years ago... I will bet that they were not licenced though ....

so after all that LOL I am not 100% sure when the first licenced walther replica was released... LOL

my guess would be late 80's early 90's in terms of a gun with walther branding etc

Mark Hazard

Walther PPK wrote:

PS:Just wondering does anybody hear know when the first Walther PPK replicas were put on the market?

Don't know if it was the first, but Crescent Toys came out with one in the 1970s, from what I remember it wasn't very good, which is why I didn't buy one at the time.

Replica Models (in the UK) came out with the first true replica that I remember, mid 70s I would guess (I still have that model).

scaramangasgoldengun

YES I remember the Crecent cap gun in the for your eyes only box I used to have it but sold it to a collector... I dont think is had PPK or walther anywere branded on it..


You are quite right a poor walther if it was meant to be that ... was closed to a walther PP

decent cap gun as a toy but not a good replica...

Look at the multiplet attache case and all the multiple Bond prodocts ...

every gun is a lugger with a silencer.

Mark Hazard

scaramangasgoldengun wrote:

YES I remember the Crecent cap gun in the for your eyes only box I used to have it but sold it to a collector... I dont think is had PPK or walther anywere branded on it..

For the box art, see (about half-way down): http://www.toysofbond.co.uk/guns.html

and no, it didn't mention Walther or PPK

The one I saw in Woollies (I think was during Lone Star's Bond reign, as it had no mention of 007) was just branded as a PPK.

scaramangasgoldengun wrote:

You are quite right a poor walther if it was meant to be that ... was closed to a walther PP

decent cap gun as a toy but not a good replica...

From what I remember it wasn't even close to a PP, otherwise, even as a teenager I would have bought it.

Walther PPK

Thanks for all your help everyone,

it does sound like the Crescent Toys gun was first toy gun made to look like a PPK, though even if the design was not 100 spot on with the real deal.

scaramangasgoldengun

THIS JUST IN

A MAJOR FIND....

THE first ever james bond toy gun which was reffered to as a PPK was produced in JAPAN.in the 60's during the toy boom of the era....

and is actually for sale on ebay ... I dont intend bidding on it myself.... but I am sure the price will go through the roof...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/007-James-Bond-PPK-radio-by-TADA-more-1960s-Japan_W0QQitemZ310074965247QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310074965247&_trkparms=72%3A985%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

delon64

i bought this in fukouka some years ago and it was produced in 1965...the same store also sold me a tin disco volante that i have never seen before or since in a great thunderball box...i had to send a japanese pal into the store as he refused to sell the pieces to a white man...strange but true

Walther PPK

Wow that is an interesting find.

So the PPK is a radio and the smaller gun is a lighter, Bond swag does not come stranger than that.

Next to the LoneStar/ Wickie version and the Blue guns version I just got that one is pretty spot on with the real Mccoy.

scaramangasgoldengun

my absolute favorite Vintage Bond toys has to be

1 . The Multiple toys - attache case FRWL but released after Goldfinger ...

2. the old gilbert Sean connery doll... fantastic.

3. The original 261 corgi Gold ASTON MARTIN DB5

PoorMansJB

Walther PPK wrote:

I guess that Corgi decided that gold would look better to the customers in the stores than the gray of the film version.

The DB5 was the first Corgi model to be jammed with working features. (Dave Worrall notes that this was the start of Corgi's demise, as buyers started shying-away from product that wasn't similarly equipped.) Given that and the source--GOLDfinger--Corgi "went for the gold." Not sure if it was public outcry or just a simple nod toward realism that changed future models to "silver birch."

If you look at DB5 models in total, many other manufacturers also used gold; not sure if their reasoning was the same or they were simply trying to ape Corgi.

As for the karate gi clad Odd Job, I belive that again was a marketing choice as Harold Sakata was played up a being a master martial artist in the press releases for Goldfinger. There is another action figure of him in the butler's uniform that Gilbert made, thought it is harder to find and can collect quite the kings ransome money wise.

Actually, in this case, it was public outcry: The doll was initially issued in a box showing Odd Job in the butler's uniform but children were disappointed to open it and find him in the karate outfit. Parents complained to Gilbert, who re-designed the art.

(Around about this time Aurora Plastics were issuing their Monsters of the Movies series. Parents complained of the Wolf Man kit not at all matching the pose shown on the box and, in response, that art was also revised. [Yes, once upon a time, some toy makers had a conscience ... ])

While I've seen an illustration of Odd Job in the Sears catalog as well as the aforementioned box art, of course, I've yet to ever seen an actual Gilbert Odd Job in a mourning suit.