I must say that this Title Sequence was the worst in Bond history, it is maybe beautiful created but nothing happened and it's way too un-Bond...and don't get me started on that worse font!
In the last title sequences there always was a theme of the movie in it, like the oil in TWINE and the poker in the CR, nothing happened in the titles of QoS (like in the rest of the movie!)
How can they be so wrong?
I'm sorry to sound rude, but did you actually watch the movie? The titles were in total sync with QoS.
1) The lone man in the titles - representing Bond's lonely journey to vengeance.
2) Then the sand - which was the main backdrop of the movie.
3) Even a smattering of nudes, which was omitted last time, (and got a right slating.)
I thought they were superb, simplistic and artistic, just like Forster's movie direction.
In fact I thought these titles had more links in them than Casino Royale - (they really only had the card theme running through them) and I thought they were great too.
She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
I must say that this Title Sequence was the worst in Bond history, it is maybe beautiful created but nothing happened and it's way too un-Bond...and don't get me started on that worse font!
In the last title sequences there always was a theme of the movie in it, like the oil in TWINE and the poker in the CR, nothing happened in the titles of QoS (like in the rest of the movie!)
How can they be so wrong?
I'm sorry to sound rude, but did you actually watch the movie? The titles were in total sync with QoS.
1) The lone man in the titles - representing Bond's lonely journey to vengeance.
2) Then the sand - which was the main backdrop of the movie.
3) Even a smattering of nudes, which was omitted last time, (and got a right slating.)
I thought they were superb, simplistic and artistic, just like Forster's movie direction.
In fact I thought these titles had more links in them than Casino Royale - (they really only had the card theme running through them) and I thought they were great too.
First, you don't sound rude and second as I said I'm going to watch again (and I will keep your comment in mind). But by CR, the titles really grabbed me, it was so right! During the titles of QoS I was really irritated by some kind of computer bullet and messy lines.
Your points don't sound that bad. Although, the sand is not really a theme, but yes backdrop. I can't remember a lonely guy in the titles, I remember that he was alone (will check).
It was cool to combine the roundings of hills with the roundings of women. I admit.
What I dislike in the titles was really the font and all those lines. IMO, after seeing it once, it would make a big difference if you skip the font, the crazy bullet and messy lines. (I guess I'm a bit old fashioned with my Bond opinions here).
Another song will make a big difference too, didn't really like the song (during seeing the movie, was the first time I heard the song and I wasn't really convinced, I think at least Alicia Keys can do much more and much better). But I don't think you can convince me in this opinion, but please try.
First, you don't sound rude and second as I said I'm going to watch again (and I will keep your comment in mind). But by CR, the titles really grabbed me, it was so right! During the titles of QoS I was really irritated by some kind of computer bullet and messy lines.
Glad I didn't sound rude, and by the way, welcome to AJB {[]
I have only seen the movie once myself, and so I am relying on my ever forgetful memory, but you jogged it with 'messy lines'...I've just remembered another link. There are great computer lines, in the M16 computer table, just like the lines on the AJB header, so perhaps they were trying to link those in too....The whole feel of QoS is very modern, and I suppose they were trying to make the title sequence the same.
But I don't think you can convince me in this opinion, but please try.
I love the song, but trying to convince you that you should like it, is well, trying to get someone to enjoy a modern art painting. It's very personal, and I know that the song has divided many. However, hearing it again, might help you to enjoy it more?
Perhaps seeing the title sequence again, with these points in mind, might help you see the links in the movie?
I look forward to seeing QoS again.
She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,917Chief of Staff
Although, the sand is not really a theme, but yes backdrop.
Well, the sand is there to represent the desert that's shown later in the film...and also to mirror how Bond feels...a man alone in a vast, barren wilderness...
Indeed. It makes absolutely perfect sense to use the desert in the title sequence. If they didn’t, I would be wondering why on Earth they didn’t. The desert featured prominently in the posters, trailers and in the film itself. It makes a direct link to Bond’s emotional state and his isolation.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
The typography was great, but I thought the imagery was a bit old hat. Just standard Bond stuff really
That works for me! I only want/expect the titles to do their job, and look good. It's always interesting to see what they've cooked up.
Like the movie they're fine but just don't have a key idea that makes them stick in the memory. They just sort of wash over you with some Bondy poses, pictures of men with guns, sandy women... it's old hat. Title sequences should make you sit up and pay attention, not make you think that you've seen it all before.
Hmm...other people are saying there is a theme in the desert sands...which Forster said many times during production and in the Bond On Set book. It's a fine line, balancing familiarity and formula with an ambition to show something new...as with the film itself, opinions seem quite divergent.
Different interpretations, and levels of acceptance...must be art
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I liked it for what it was. In fact i had the same gripe with the film as I did the opening. The title sequence looked good, had tons of style and pace, but no great story. Why save the gun barrel and bond theme for the very end? I heard someone say that QOS could've been any action thriller, that it didn't in any way necessitate it being a bond movie - I think that's correct, use the established music and style.
I'm sorry to sound rude, but did you actually watch the movie? The titles were in total sync with QoS.
1) The lone man in the titles - representing Bond's lonely journey to vengeance.
Yeah, but come on- Bond's always on his own. And whenever he's in the titles he's always on his own too.
3) Even a smattering of nudes, which was omitted last time, (and got a right slating.)
Why does that make it totally 'in sync' with the movie? If anything, this makes it less in sync- Bond doesn't actually get his rocks off very much at all so faceless naked babes don't appear to be running through his mind that much.
I'd have just liked them to think a newer look for them- if you're going abstract there's plenty of routes to take, not the same old same old.
1) The lone man in the titles - representing Bond's lonely journey to vengeance.
Yeah, but come on- Bond's always on his own. And whenever he's in the titles he's always on his own too.
Thnx Lexi for the welcome. Enjoying myself already here. Emtiem, thnx for your opinion. I'm going to check tomorrow if 'Bond on his own' represents something or that he just is alone with no reason.
I think that it's important that such a scene grabs you the first time you see it. You must think 'wow' instead of 'mwah'.
Totally Agree! The worst title sequence ever, argh, I cannot stand that font, I mean, with QOS the producers made sure they broke all the links with the original series that we all love, they drop Daniel Klienman in favor of MK12, Lindy Hemming was not in charge of costume design (although she worked as an advisor), they changed Brioni for Tom Ford, etc. I'm so disappointed with the movie and the Titles (that are one of my favorite parts, not only with Bond, but in every movie I see) weren't the exception. And the gunbarrel at the end..., I've seen better fan-made in YouTube, it even looks like a Homer Simpson parody out there in Internet. I hope next movie goes back to the elements we all loved.
3) Even a smattering of nudes, which was omitted last time, (and got a right slating.)
Why does that make it totally 'in sync' with the movie? If anything, this makes it less in sync- Bond doesn't actually get his rocks off very much at all so faceless naked babes don't appear to be running through his mind that much.
Agent Fields is pretty 'faceless'...she's hardly in the movie and yet jumps into bed with Bond very quickly...and could all the 'faceless' nudes of the titles be a reference to all the women Bond has slept with before Vesper came along ? It's easy if you think a little...
and "get his rocks off"..?..you must be very popular with the ladies down your way
Having just seen the movie again, I can now see even more links with the title sequence with the movie, well at least one anyway
The map/solar markings that were in the titles, are very similar to the MI6 computer imagrey that we see when they are trying to find out who Green is. Just like the font used for the titles, it's the same type font used on the computer as well.
I'm not sure what people are looking for? There are several strong links to the movie - and as I said before, a selection of naked dancing ladies. Isn't that what the title sequence should be?
She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
The title sequence is getting a bad rap because it is unfairly lumped in with Alicia Keys' inane warbling (the most misguided choice for a Bond movies' acoustics since Éric Serra).
I wouldn't say MK12 made the best title sequence, far from it, the title sequence for Casino Royale was more harder edged and original in comparison. But it wasn't the worst and is comparable to Kleinman's other title sequences, but has it's own dynamic feel. I don't understand the aversion to the retro fonts either and they are in keeping with the Bond feel (especially with the sliding red gunbarrels).
'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...'
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
I've seen the titles from a grab on youtube, and...
WOW :007)
I'd heard all kinds of terrible things...but I have to say---I LOVE IT. The font, the graphics, the flow of it all...even the song, which I've always suspected was a 'grower,' works quite well within the context of what MK12 are up to here.
It feels/looks like James Bond to me. All the way.
I'm beginning to sense how the whole thing is going to play out...
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
First time I saw it in theaters, I was really bored and a bit irritated.
Having watched this I must say it's beautiful created (the video) and it's mostly the song that doesn't make it work for me.
Not a big fan of the font and I hate how the letters roll in (don't know if this is the right term).
The title sequence has some beautiful parts (the eye and the women in the circle). Also Bond in the desert is good but not for more than 10 seconds. Nothing is happening and the bullet is so very crappy.
SeanConnery007The Bond Archive - London, EngPosts: 169MI6 Agent
How come in the version on YouTube, the title 'Quantum of Solace' is shown in the title sequence, when I'm sure when I saw this in the cinema the title wasn't shown until the end of the film after the gun-barrel?
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,917Chief of Staff
How come in the version on YouTube, the title 'Quantum of Solace' is shown in the title sequence, when I'm sure when I saw this in the cinema the title wasn't shown until the end of the film after the gun-barrel?
Then your memory is playing tricks on you...the title IS in the title sequence.
I think the QoS title sequence is great. The opening certainly is, a shimmering, rippling mirage type image with a silhouetted Craig standing in front of a glowing sun. When he fires the gun accompanied by the peaking sound of AWTD, it’s just perfect.
The backdrop of colours and the font selection work very well together. The song isn’t bad either, definitely not the worst in the series.
The way in which this sequence ends, with a close-up of Bond’s hands holding a PPK, firing it in slow motion – terrific. I like the CR sequence a tad better, but I do rank this effort highly.
I have to first admit that I have not yet seen QoS (I think this is the first time in my life that I'm angry to be living in the U.S., haha) but cheated and watched it on YouTube (this two week wait is KILLING me!). I have to jump in and note that I love the title sequence. The song neither excites nor angers me; it's just sort of...there. But the visuals are fantastic, and I love that the sequence has the illusion of being all one long shot. I also love the gunbarrel dots that roll into frame occassionally.
Would I be too nitpicky if I said that the only thing that irked me is that first and last names are stacked on top of each other, instead of all horizontal?
I'm new here, as you can see. I've been a Bond fanatic my whole life and have been reading the forums on here for years, but for some odd reason only just started posting this week. So, hello!
The title sequence is getting a bad rap because it is unfairly lumped in with Alicia Keys' inane warbling (the most misguided choice for a Bond movies' acoustics since Éric Serra).
I wouldn't say MK12 made the best title sequence, far from it, the title sequence for Casino Royale was more harder edged and original in comparison. But it wasn't the worst and is comparable to Kleinman's other title sequences, but has it's own dynamic feel. I don't understand the aversion to the retro fonts either and they are in keeping with the Bond feel (especially with the sliding red gunbarrels).
Warbling, that's it! I've been looking for a way to describe that screeching theme song and I've finally found it. Inane warbling. That suits it perfectly. I think that's why I disliked the credits the way I did. That irritating screech, like fingers on a chalk board.
SeanConnery007The Bond Archive - London, EngPosts: 169MI6 Agent
How come in the version on YouTube, the title 'Quantum of Solace' is shown in the title sequence, when I'm sure when I saw this in the cinema the title wasn't shown until the end of the film after the gun-barrel?
Then your memory is playing tricks on you...the title IS in the title sequence.
Oh, ok. Thanks Sir Miles. Must have been so overcome with excitement I blinked for too long and missed it! )
But am I right in the title being at the end as well, after the gun barrel sequence? I'm beginning to doubt everything I saw now!
Warbling, that's it! I've been looking for a way to describe that screeching theme song and I've finally found it. Inane warbling. That suits it perfectly. I think that's why I disliked the credits the way I did. That irritating screech, like fingers on a chalk board.
You fecking said it! I actually liked the controversial MK12 title sequence otherwise, but honestly, Alicia Keys was so terrible she makes you long for Sheryl Crow and Madonna.
'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...'
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,917Chief of Staff
I thought the titles were a nice return to the norm. As for the song, I stick by my opinion on the matter that it was much better than I thought it would be, meaning I was expecting something absolutely atrocious having learned that Alicia Keyes had anything to do with it. I was prepared for "horrible" and received something "mediocre." In my mind it was improvement, because you can only get better you expect total garbage. I think it was the instrumentation that sold me.
I liked all the visual elements used. It made sense through all the globe trotting that Bond did.
I've seen QOS 3 times and have not been thrilled with the title sequence. But now I think it's because I don't like the song. (I don’t hate it, just don’t like all of it.)
I just did an experiment.
I watched the title sequence using the YouTube link from a post above. I turned down the sound on the YouTube clip and played Goldfinger over the titles instead. I found I enjoyed it immensely more.
Of course I mean no offense to those who like the song or the titles as is. I’m just offering an experiment.
Try it and let me know what you think.
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I'm sorry to sound rude, but did you actually watch the movie? The titles were in total sync with QoS.
1) The lone man in the titles - representing Bond's lonely journey to vengeance.
2) Then the sand - which was the main backdrop of the movie.
3) Even a smattering of nudes, which was omitted last time, (and got a right slating.)
I thought they were superb, simplistic and artistic, just like Forster's movie direction.
In fact I thought these titles had more links in them than Casino Royale - (they really only had the card theme running through them) and I thought they were great too.
Couldn't agree more!
The last image of the bullet moving toward a sand dune as the theme gradually crescendoes was perfect.
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First, you don't sound rude and second as I said I'm going to watch again (and I will keep your comment in mind). But by CR, the titles really grabbed me, it was so right! During the titles of QoS I was really irritated by some kind of computer bullet and messy lines.
Your points don't sound that bad. Although, the sand is not really a theme, but yes backdrop. I can't remember a lonely guy in the titles, I remember that he was alone (will check).
It was cool to combine the roundings of hills with the roundings of women. I admit.
What I dislike in the titles was really the font and all those lines. IMO, after seeing it once, it would make a big difference if you skip the font, the crazy bullet and messy lines. (I guess I'm a bit old fashioned with my Bond opinions here).
Another song will make a big difference too, didn't really like the song (during seeing the movie, was the first time I heard the song and I wasn't really convinced, I think at least Alicia Keys can do much more and much better). But I don't think you can convince me in this opinion, but please try.
Glad I didn't sound rude, and by the way, welcome to AJB {[]
I have only seen the movie once myself, and so I am relying on my ever forgetful memory, but you jogged it with 'messy lines'...I've just remembered another link. There are great computer lines, in the M16 computer table, just like the lines on the AJB header, so perhaps they were trying to link those in too....The whole feel of QoS is very modern, and I suppose they were trying to make the title sequence the same.
I love the song, but trying to convince you that you should like it, is well, trying to get someone to enjoy a modern art painting. It's very personal, and I know that the song has divided many. However, hearing it again, might help you to enjoy it more?
Perhaps seeing the title sequence again, with these points in mind, might help you see the links in the movie?
I look forward to seeing QoS again.
Well, the sand is there to represent the desert that's shown later in the film...and also to mirror how Bond feels...a man alone in a vast, barren wilderness...
Hmm...other people are saying there is a theme in the desert sands...which Forster said many times during production and in the Bond On Set book. It's a fine line, balancing familiarity and formula with an ambition to show something new...as with the film itself, opinions seem quite divergent.
Different interpretations, and levels of acceptance...must be art
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Yeah, but come on- Bond's always on his own. And whenever he's in the titles he's always on his own too.
Yup, fair point.
Why does that make it totally 'in sync' with the movie? If anything, this makes it less in sync- Bond doesn't actually get his rocks off very much at all so faceless naked babes don't appear to be running through his mind that much.
I'd have just liked them to think a newer look for them- if you're going abstract there's plenty of routes to take, not the same old same old.
Thnx Lexi for the welcome. Enjoying myself already here. Emtiem, thnx for your opinion. I'm going to check tomorrow if 'Bond on his own' represents something or that he just is alone with no reason.
I think that it's important that such a scene grabs you the first time you see it. You must think 'wow' instead of 'mwah'.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=frjeUqzEyt8
Does anyone know where a pirate copy of the full film is available. It is obviously out there now.
Agent Fields is pretty 'faceless'...she's hardly in the movie and yet jumps into bed with Bond very quickly...and could all the 'faceless' nudes of the titles be a reference to all the women Bond has slept with before Vesper came along ? It's easy if you think a little...
and "get his rocks off"..?..you must be very popular with the ladies down your way
The map/solar markings that were in the titles, are very similar to the MI6 computer imagrey that we see when they are trying to find out who Green is. Just like the font used for the titles, it's the same type font used on the computer as well.
I'm not sure what people are looking for? There are several strong links to the movie - and as I said before, a selection of naked dancing ladies. Isn't that what the title sequence should be?
Here is the video of it added online today.
I wouldn't say MK12 made the best title sequence, far from it, the title sequence for Casino Royale was more harder edged and original in comparison. But it wasn't the worst and is comparable to Kleinman's other title sequences, but has it's own dynamic feel. I don't understand the aversion to the retro fonts either and they are in keeping with the Bond feel (especially with the sliding red gunbarrels).
WOW :007)
I'd heard all kinds of terrible things...but I have to say---I LOVE IT. The font, the graphics, the flow of it all...even the song, which I've always suspected was a 'grower,' works quite well within the context of what MK12 are up to here.
It feels/looks like James Bond to me. All the way.
I'm beginning to sense how the whole thing is going to play out...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Cool that it's online,
First time I saw it in theaters, I was really bored and a bit irritated.
Having watched this I must say it's beautiful created (the video) and it's mostly the song that doesn't make it work for me.
Not a big fan of the font and I hate how the letters roll in (don't know if this is the right term).
The title sequence has some beautiful parts (the eye and the women in the circle). Also Bond in the desert is good but not for more than 10 seconds. Nothing is happening and the bullet is so very crappy.
Then your memory is playing tricks on you...the title IS in the title sequence.
The backdrop of colours and the font selection work very well together. The song isn’t bad either, definitely not the worst in the series.
The way in which this sequence ends, with a close-up of Bond’s hands holding a PPK, firing it in slow motion – terrific. I like the CR sequence a tad better, but I do rank this effort highly.
Would I be too nitpicky if I said that the only thing that irked me is that first and last names are stacked on top of each other, instead of all horizontal?
I'm new here, as you can see. I've been a Bond fanatic my whole life and have been reading the forums on here for years, but for some odd reason only just started posting this week. So, hello!
Warbling, that's it! I've been looking for a way to describe that screeching theme song and I've finally found it. Inane warbling. That suits it perfectly. I think that's why I disliked the credits the way I did. That irritating screech, like fingers on a chalk board.
Oh, ok. Thanks Sir Miles. Must have been so overcome with excitement I blinked for too long and missed it!
But am I right in the title being at the end as well, after the gun barrel sequence? I'm beginning to doubt everything I saw now!
You fecking said it! I actually liked the controversial MK12 title sequence otherwise, but honestly, Alicia Keys was so terrible she makes you long for Sheryl Crow and Madonna.
Yes...quite correct there
I liked all the visual elements used. It made sense through all the globe trotting that Bond did.
I just did an experiment.
I watched the title sequence using the YouTube link from a post above. I turned down the sound on the YouTube clip and played Goldfinger over the titles instead. I found I enjoyed it immensely more.
Of course I mean no offense to those who like the song or the titles as is. I’m just offering an experiment.
Try it and let me know what you think.