Consider - we KNOW the original Craig glasses were OPs.
In fact, we don't know this for sure...
Depends, I guess, if you take OP's word for it. Or if you believe, conversely, they are able to produce an almost 100% accurate (allowing for the black tips) copy, without any original involvement...
Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe OPs involvement as authentic, original supplier to QOS. Certainly more so than from the rumour that originated at Selfridges, which, I repeat, do not house the Tom Ford UK concession - clothing, EYEWEAR, etc - which is housed at one of Selfridges biggest competitors, Harrords. Go figure...
Consider - we KNOW the original Craig glasses were OPs.
In fact, we don't know this for sure...
Depends, I guess, if you take OP's word for it. Or if you believe, conversely, they are able to produce an almost 100% accurate (allowing for the black tips) copy, without any original involvement...
Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe OPs involvement as authentic, original supplier to QOS. Certainly more so than from the rumour that originated at Selfridges, which, I repeat, do not house the Tom Ford UK concession - clothing, EYEWEAR, etc - which is housed at one of Selfridges biggest competitors, Harrords. Go figure...
Well, I don't want to start a discussion on this all. Yes, there is a statement from Oliver Peoples US, but I don't have the exact wording, what they said.
Weren't OP the ones, who informed us of a limited run of 150 Airmen and are now having them in the normal collection, unlimited? Is that a credit for their credibility?
Unfortunately, the description from Adam Simmonds has been edited later to "initially".
And I could write a book with experiences with suppliers, that officially confirmed something and then step by step rowed back.
I am not saying, that the Tom Ford rumors are taken granted from me, but the whole story seems to make sense and I'd rather wait instead of jumping on conclusions fastly and wrongly.
I for my part am waiting for an info from my very trusted optician on the Tom Ford rumors and after this has all be done; I'll be ordering my QoS sunglasses and not earlier.
If you prefer to puzzle infos together, that are partly pending, you are welcome, but I'd rather wait until the fog has gone.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Consider - we KNOW the original Craig glasses were OPs.
In fact, we don't know this for sure...
Depends, I guess, if you take OP's word for it. Or if you believe, conversely, they are able to produce an almost 100% accurate (allowing for the black tips) copy, without any original involvement...
Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe OPs involvement as authentic, original supplier to QOS. Certainly more so than from the rumour that originated at Selfridges, which, I repeat, do not house the Tom Ford UK concession - clothing, EYEWEAR, etc - which is housed at one of Selfridges biggest competitors, Harrords. Go figure...
But selfridges due house a David Clulow opticians that sell Tom Ford Sunglasses they also know the code and lense colour for the QOS sunglsses the release date etc perhaps if we all contacted them they could due an intial order,say 150 to start with of these limited QOS sunglasses!
Depends, I guess, if you take OP's word for it. Or if you believe, conversely, they are able to produce an almost 100% accurate (allowing for the black tips) copy, without any original involvement...
Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe OPs involvement as authentic, original supplier to QOS. Certainly more so than from the rumour that originated at Selfridges, which, I repeat, do not house the Tom Ford UK concession - clothing, EYEWEAR, etc - which is housed at one of Selfridges biggest competitors, Harrords. Go figure...
But selfridges due house a David Clulow opticians that sell Tom Ford Sunglasses they also know the code and lense colour for the QOS sunglsses the release date etc perhaps if we all contacted them they could due an intial order,say 150 to start with of these limited QOS sunglasses!
Have no knowledge of the Selfridge optician but I will take your word for it - though if I were Tom Ford, and I had backed Harrods to launch my first London concession, I would be most likely to ensure they - Harrods - had first dobs on a new range of QOS shades, no?
And has anyone seen an illustration of the quoted Ford "108" as they don't appear on the Ford site?
If you have been reading previous threads the facts are , there is a person called veronique who works for David Clulow which are the opticians at Selfridges she has stated that the sunglasses you require are Tom Ford she has been good enough to give a model number(which just so happens to be the next consecutive number in their range).She also knows the lens colour and month of release.We also know that Tom Ford supplied the jacket and other clothing,please smell the coffee the sunglasses you have bought should have Tom Ford on them and no doubt will be released like the persol ones in a 007 case etc I,m sure you will buy a pair.
If you have been reading previous threads the facts are , there is a person called veronique who works for David Clulow which are the opticians at Selfridges she has stated that the sunglasses you require are Tom Ford she has been good enough to give a model number(which just so happens to be the next consecutive number in their range).She also knows the lens colour and month of release.We also know that Tom Ford supplied the jacket and other clothing,please smell the coffee the sunglasses you have bought should have Tom Ford on them and no doubt will be released like the persol ones in a 007 case etc I,m sure you will buy a pair.
"Smell the coffee"? Being a tad aggressive?
I take it you have spoken to this Veronique?
Or does number sequence just doesn't happen to be coincidental? Have you seen a shot of these 108s? Indeed, Ford do seem to have supplied much of the formal clothing. But not, of course, the Sunspel shirts. Nor, quite possibly, the jeans.
When i said ,smell the coffee, what i was asking you to do, was to have an open mind and examine the facts such as David Clulow are the opticians at Selfridges they do sell Tom Ford Sunglasses the next release will have the number 108 ,107 is the highest they go up to, veronique knew what sunglasses arlington beech wanted and has seen or heard somthing to back this up.As for seeing pictures yes i have there the ones that DC wears with the black and not grey tips. We also know that Tom Ford has supplied the jacket and other clothing, what i am doing is putting 2 and 2 together and at the moment that adds up to Tom Ford being the brand that DC wears.If you compare the Tom Ford and op range they are very similar just as the Paul Smith sunglasses are very similar as op do make them and then Paul Smith add their branding.
I'm with Bondtoys on this one. I'll be sitting on the fence until something definitive comes out. The smoking gun now seems to be an OP product manufactured for Tom Ford with Tom Ford branding but nothing released yet.
When i said ,smell the coffee, what i was asking you to do, was to have an open mind and examine the facts such as David Clulow are the opticians at Selfridges they do sell Tom Ford Sunglasses the next release will have the number 108 ,107 is the highest they go up to, veronique knew what sunglasses arlington beech wanted and has seen or heard somthing to back this up.As for seeing pictures yes i have there the ones that DC wears with the black and not grey tips. We also know that Tom Ford has supplied the jacket and other clothing, what i am doing is putting 2 and 2 together and at the moment that adds up to Tom Ford being the brand that DC wears.If you compare the Tom Ford and op range they are very similar just as the Paul Smith sunglasses are very similar as op do make them and then Paul Smith add their branding.
Fortunately, in the UK - and I believe that is where you are from - we have what is called the Trades Description Act. Essentially, this means any item advertised must be as described. Ergo, if the shades sold by Simmonds turn out not to be those used in QOS, then the buyer can ask for his money back.
Those spooked by the rumours in this thread should, therefore, hold on to their receipts.
It is similar to someone having a website selling Sunspel polos WITHOUT a breast pocket and insisting they were QOS worn; when the shirts from QOS turned out to HAVE a breast pocket, then customers would be entitled to their money back.
I look forward to a Clulow/Vernonique/Tom Ford commitment in these threads that THEY have the exact product (not merely a copy of an OP product) along similar lines to bona fides given by Simmonds here.
We can all do without third party reportage from posters though, I would suggest.
(not merely a copy of an OP product) along similar lines to bona fides given by Simmonds here.
As stated by several of the previous posters, we expect (if the Tom Ford rumors are true) OP Airman sunglasses branded Tom Ford.
I have been told, that even OP lets their products be manufactured in Japan by another brand.
So, if there are any Tom Ford sunglasses visible in QoS, these will be Tom Ford branded OP Airman, so, I am not sure, what you mean with "a copy of a OP product".
I wasn't quite aware that so many of the "they are Ford/not OP" posters were conceeding they would be OPs rebranded as Ford...
But no matter. IF Ford rebrand the original OPs from last year/the year before, they will be copying OP originals. i.e. they will not be producing, orginal Ford-designed glasses.
Clear enough?
So I go back to one of my original points - the concession - even here - seems to be that the Craig orginals were OPs. So, do you want an OP product, badged OP - as in, those worn by Craig would be OP-badged - but with grey end bits, or - possibly - those inaccurately rebadged Ford with black end bits?
That is, of course, if Ford ar doing anything at all.
Shove 'em behind your ears and no one can tell. Either grey-ended or black, it won't make you look more like Daniel Craig.8-)
Just like Paul Smith collaborates with OP then puts his branding on Tom Ford now does the same thing ,may be simmonds opticians will sell Tom Ford sunglasses just like he sells Paul Smith sunglasses in which case if he stocks the new QOS sunglasses you may be able to exchange yours, like you say keep the receipt and if i were you not wear them so you have a chance to exchange them if veronique is telling the truth, I have no reason to doubt her in fact I may call her to reserve a pair,
So, having spoken with my Hamburg optician (who is a very trusted lifestyle optician, they carry everything but OP) who carries Tom Ford sunglasses and reassured himself with Tom Ford Germany:
1. There will be the Tom Ford model 108/s 19V available in October 2008
2. These sunglasses will be seen in QoS
3. These sunglasses come in a regular box and an unlimited series. No writing with 007 etc.
4. Tom Ford does not give pics to customers but my dealer confirmed, that the Tom Ford 108 model looks spot on like the OP Airman from A.S. webpage
5. There is no known relation between OP and Tom Ford eyewear, the manufacturing and distribution channels have nothing to do with each other so far.
6. These sunglasses will retail with EUR 285,--
7. The Tom Ford sunglasses will have black leather earpieces.
I take these infos about LE being solely for the german market. As an example, Persol did never offer the limited 2720 sunglasses here.
This entire story does not make any sense, obviously one (OP or Tom Ford) are wrong by saying, that their sunglasses are seen in QoS.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
So, having spoken with my Hamburg optician (who is a very trusted lifestyle optician, they carry everything but OP) who carries Tom Ford sunglasses and reassured himself with Tom Ford Germany:
1. There will be the Tom Ford model 108/s 19V available in October 2008
2. These sunglasses will be seen in QoS
3. These sunglasses come in a regular box and an unlimited series. No writing with 007 etc.
4. Tom Ford does not give pics to customers but my dealer confirmed, that the Tom Ford 108 model looks spot on like the OP Airman from A.S. webpage
5. There is no known relation between OP and Tom Ford eyewear, the manufacturing and distribution channels have nothing to do with each other so far.
6. These sunglasses will retail with EUR 285,--
7. The Tom Ford sunglasses will have black leather earpieces.
I take these infos about LE being solely for the german market. As an example, Persol did never offer the limited 2720 sunglasses here.
This entire story does not make any sense, obviously one (OP or Tom Ford) are wrong by saying, that their sunglasses are seen in QoS.
Good stuff Bondtoys. I liked how you broke it down logically. Thanks
Hi I have just bought the OP Airman from Adam Simmonds. He puts on the black ear pieces for you and encloses the grey if you wish to change back. These are definately the glasses in the film.
Tom Ford James Bond
James Bond will wear Tom Ford in 'Quantum of Solace'
It was widely believed that Oliver Peoples Airman Platinum sunglasses would be worn by James Bond in 'Quantum of Solace', however we've recently received written confirmation that it will be Tom Ford that dresses James Bond in 'Quantum of Solace', scheduled for international release this November.
Oliver Peoples Airman Platinum
Oliver Peoples Airman Platinum sunglasses
We've been informed that the style worn by James Bond in the movie is Tom Ford 108 James Bond ,colour 19V, and is part of the Spring/Summer 2009 collection and comes in three other colours.
Tom Ford 108 James Bond 19V
Tom Ford 108 James Bond 19V
Tom Ford worked with Costume Designer, Louise Frogley, to provide made-to-measure tailored and casual clothing including eveningwear, suits, shirts, knitwear, ties and accessories including the exclusive hand made 108 James Bond 19V sunglasses.
President and Chief Executive Officer of Tom Ford said;
'I could not be happier to be dressing Daniel Craig in the next James Bond film. It is an honour to move forward with this iconic character and there is no better man to dress in the world then James Bond.'
Tom Ford's 108 James Bond 19V frame has dedicated packaging and a customized Tom Ford James Bond 007 logo, the Sunglasses Shop already has the 108 frame on order and will soon be available online and in store.
EON Productions/Danjaq, LLC, have produced twenty two James Bond films since 1962, including 'Quantum of Solace', making the James Bond franchise the longest running in film history.
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OMG IT'S TRUE They are slightly different from the OP's where the arm joins the frame, and the top of the frame itself, and this matches 100% with the screen shots I have.
OMG IT'S TRUE They are slightly different from the OP's where the arm joins the frame, and the top of the frame itself, and this matches 100% with the screen shots I have.
I shan't stay around long. I'm not a great Bond fan although I did share a tailor (Doug Hayward, who sadly died not so long ago) with one of the longer-running actors who played him. We met a few times in Doug's shop in Mayfair. Thoroughly nice chap, too.
But I do share one thing with Fleming's character: a dislike of innuendo reflecting on someone's honour.
I first met Adam Simmonds when he opened EyeTech in Soho, back in the day. Until then, wearing spectacles meant you were some kind of dweeb. Annual visits to a borderline pervert with bad breath and an inevitable booger; and then the routine of being shown the minuscule range of prostheses, like some poor tool being shown the latest in artificial legs.
Adam turned what had been for many of us a disability into a style opportunity. Almost single-handedly he made spectacles cool. I owe him gratitude for that. The Eyevan flip-ups. The LA Eyeworks Botta in black and tortoiseshell. Those original Oliver Peoples with the cool clips. The Alain Miklis I gave to a girlfriend. The other Alain Miklis which looked like something from space. I remember every pair.
And I can tell you this: Mr Simmonds is a man of absolute integrity. If there's been some foul-up with the blasted sunglasses, it's not him who's made it.
We all have our harmless lunacies, god knows, and I wish you all joy of yours even though I don't share it. But given the range of people involved here -- Luxotica, MGM, Tom Ford, three thousand one-per-centers taking their product-placement cuts, a raft of PR flacks, and Adam Simmonds -- I know the first one I'd cut out of the loop of any possible misrepresentation, and it's Adam.
Actually, you know what? I think those OP sunglasses look just nifty and now that it seems they're not the ones in the film, I think I'll buy a pair. Then if anyone calls me a Bondy, I can just say "Actually, my dear chap, I think you'll find..."
So. Good luck, chaps, but disabuse yourselves of the notion that Mr Simmonds is trying to pull some kind of flanker. It's just not in the man's repertoire, and I say that as one with no commercial or other connection with him except as a long-time more-than-satisfied customer.
I raise my glass to such loyal customers like you, who register on a forum for the only purpose to defend their optician -{
To give a kind of counter-opinion:
So far, Adam Simmonds did not even feel the need to apologize for his misleading information regarding the OP sunglasses, infact, he still gives false information over his webpage regarding the limited quantities of the Airman.
No matter, who is responsable for this kind of fiasco, he did cause harm and he should apologize for this.
And as I have pointed outpreviously, he was still giving out false information, when he exactly knew, that the facts were others. So blaming everybody but him is easy, but not according to the facts.
I myself have been treated downright rudely and unprofessionally by himself and parts of his staff and the transaction was far away from being smooth.
I never heard any kind of apologize from his side, which does not comply too much with the entire gentleman attitude, that you are trying to draw out here.
And accusing others for copying other products and bashing on other products in public (here on the board and over his webpage) does not display a sophisticated attitude in my opinion, no matter how correct this substancially may be.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I don't post here often, but I do visit the boards every day and thoroughly enjoy Mantis' opinions and recommendations on clothing.
But I can't believe how rude people are regarding this issue. Look, whenever someone becomes an early adopter, you run the risk of having problems. Think of it as being on the bleeding edge. I bought my iphone 3g on the day of release, and look at all the issues that have plagued that device. In the case of these sunglasses, many of you couldn't wait for Eon to release their list of marketing partners, threw caution to the wind and trusted an "expert." Now look what you've gotten yourselves into.
Like I said, early adopters rarely come out on top. This was most certainly a hard lesson for many of you eager types who couldn't wait a few simple months.
As for me, I took Mantis' suggestion and went to Target. For under $20, I found a suitable alternative.
Wear the damn OP's no one is going to know the difference (unless they're going to sit in a display in your basement).
The posts here are mainly for 2 purposes. The first is to get the exact same items, the second purpose is to get the nearest too.
I like the exact same items, I bought the OPs, and although they are not right, I'll be keeping them as they are nice sunglasses, BUT, I'll be buying the TFs as well.
To be honest,and with real respect, the official list of partners with regards product placement isn't worth spit. With QoS, all the real clothiers are keeping their heads down. Hence why Mantis, SRUZGAR and myself have been spending small fortunes on phone bills to the real suppliers. That said, I would never discourage anyone from looking for themselves. All the research is not for private use, it's to share, so anyone who can help is most welcome.
The sunglasses are currently being sold on a website for 129.95 this is an introductory offer, what a fantastic price. it beats paying 215 pounds. the only problem is you have to wait a month or so. I have my order in already.
Enigma, that is HUGE news and thanks for the heads up...looks like the CORRECT sunglasses just made the budget list...LOL! That's a real turn around, eh?
HI, Just managed to get hold of the owner or www.theglassescenter.com. Tom Ford 108 comes with a Branded 007 case. He said he has conformation from Marcolin ( Manufacturer of Tom Ford Sunglasses ) that they did supply the sunglasses from the movie. www.theglassescentre.com are also selling for £129.95 ( Thanks Enigma , I would not have found them without you ) They have 200 pairs on order, their prices are going up as soon as the stock arrives from Tom Ford though !
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Depends, I guess, if you take OP's word for it. Or if you believe, conversely, they are able to produce an almost 100% accurate (allowing for the black tips) copy, without any original involvement...
Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe OPs involvement as authentic, original supplier to QOS. Certainly more so than from the rumour that originated at Selfridges, which, I repeat, do not house the Tom Ford UK concession - clothing, EYEWEAR, etc - which is housed at one of Selfridges biggest competitors, Harrords. Go figure...
Well, I don't want to start a discussion on this all. Yes, there is a statement from Oliver Peoples US, but I don't have the exact wording, what they said.
Weren't OP the ones, who informed us of a limited run of 150 Airmen and are now having them in the normal collection, unlimited? Is that a credit for their credibility?
Unfortunately, the description from Adam Simmonds has been edited later to "initially".
And I could write a book with experiences with suppliers, that officially confirmed something and then step by step rowed back.
I am not saying, that the Tom Ford rumors are taken granted from me, but the whole story seems to make sense and I'd rather wait instead of jumping on conclusions fastly and wrongly.
I for my part am waiting for an info from my very trusted optician on the Tom Ford rumors and after this has all be done; I'll be ordering my QoS sunglasses and not earlier.
If you prefer to puzzle infos together, that are partly pending, you are welcome, but I'd rather wait until the fog has gone.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Have no knowledge of the Selfridge optician but I will take your word for it - though if I were Tom Ford, and I had backed Harrods to launch my first London concession, I would be most likely to ensure they - Harrods - had first dobs on a new range of QOS shades, no?
And has anyone seen an illustration of the quoted Ford "108" as they don't appear on the Ford site?
"Smell the coffee"? Being a tad aggressive?
I take it you have spoken to this Veronique?
Or does number sequence just doesn't happen to be coincidental? Have you seen a shot of these 108s? Indeed, Ford do seem to have supplied much of the formal clothing. But not, of course, the Sunspel shirts. Nor, quite possibly, the jeans.
Of course, time will tell.
I'm on the sidelines folks.
Fortunately, in the UK - and I believe that is where you are from - we have what is called the Trades Description Act. Essentially, this means any item advertised must be as described. Ergo, if the shades sold by Simmonds turn out not to be those used in QOS, then the buyer can ask for his money back.
Those spooked by the rumours in this thread should, therefore, hold on to their receipts.
It is similar to someone having a website selling Sunspel polos WITHOUT a breast pocket and insisting they were QOS worn; when the shirts from QOS turned out to HAVE a breast pocket, then customers would be entitled to their money back.
I look forward to a Clulow/Vernonique/Tom Ford commitment in these threads that THEY have the exact product (not merely a copy of an OP product) along similar lines to bona fides given by Simmonds here.
We can all do without third party reportage from posters though, I would suggest.
I am not sure, what you mean with "a copy of a OP product".
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I wasn't quite aware that so many of the "they are Ford/not OP" posters were conceeding they would be OPs rebranded as Ford...
But no matter. IF Ford rebrand the original OPs from last year/the year before, they will be copying OP originals. i.e. they will not be producing, orginal Ford-designed glasses.
Clear enough?
So I go back to one of my original points - the concession - even here - seems to be that the Craig orginals were OPs. So, do you want an OP product, badged OP - as in, those worn by Craig would be OP-badged - but with grey end bits, or - possibly - those inaccurately rebadged Ford with black end bits?
That is, of course, if Ford ar doing anything at all.
Shove 'em behind your ears and no one can tell. Either grey-ended or black, it won't make you look more like Daniel Craig.8-)
1. There will be the Tom Ford model 108/s 19V available in October 2008
2. These sunglasses will be seen in QoS
3. These sunglasses come in a regular box and an unlimited series. No writing with 007 etc.
4. Tom Ford does not give pics to customers but my dealer confirmed, that the Tom Ford 108 model looks spot on like the OP Airman from A.S. webpage
5. There is no known relation between OP and Tom Ford eyewear, the manufacturing and distribution channels have nothing to do with each other so far.
6. These sunglasses will retail with EUR 285,--
7. The Tom Ford sunglasses will have black leather earpieces.
I take these infos about LE being solely for the german market. As an example, Persol did never offer the limited 2720 sunglasses here.
This entire story does not make any sense, obviously one (OP or Tom Ford) are wrong by saying, that their sunglasses are seen in QoS.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Good stuff Bondtoys. I liked how you broke it down logically. Thanks
I totally agree with you Mantis. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
http://www.sunglasses-shop.co.uk/sunglassesnews/september-2008/Tom-Ford-James-Bond.asp
Tom Ford James Bond
James Bond will wear Tom Ford in 'Quantum of Solace'
It was widely believed that Oliver Peoples Airman Platinum sunglasses would be worn by James Bond in 'Quantum of Solace', however we've recently received written confirmation that it will be Tom Ford that dresses James Bond in 'Quantum of Solace', scheduled for international release this November.
Oliver Peoples Airman Platinum
Oliver Peoples Airman Platinum sunglasses
We've been informed that the style worn by James Bond in the movie is Tom Ford 108 James Bond ,colour 19V, and is part of the Spring/Summer 2009 collection and comes in three other colours.
Tom Ford 108 James Bond 19V
Tom Ford 108 James Bond 19V
Tom Ford worked with Costume Designer, Louise Frogley, to provide made-to-measure tailored and casual clothing including eveningwear, suits, shirts, knitwear, ties and accessories including the exclusive hand made 108 James Bond 19V sunglasses.
President and Chief Executive Officer of Tom Ford said;
'I could not be happier to be dressing Daniel Craig in the next James Bond film. It is an honour to move forward with this iconic character and there is no better man to dress in the world then James Bond.'
Tom Ford's 108 James Bond 19V frame has dedicated packaging and a customized Tom Ford James Bond 007 logo, the Sunglasses Shop already has the 108 frame on order and will soon be available online and in store.
EON Productions/Danjaq, LLC, have produced twenty two James Bond films since 1962, including 'Quantum of Solace', making the James Bond franchise the longest running in film history.
That was the first thing I saw too. Good stuff.
The sunglasses are indeed, as has been reported, Tom Ford rather than Oliver Peoples. Not that Joe Public would notice the difference.
Once again, this has been provided by the person that dressed Daniel for QoS.
Adam Simmonds have provided great service and very nice glasses, but they are NOT the ones.
Duncan
But I do share one thing with Fleming's character: a dislike of innuendo reflecting on someone's honour.
I first met Adam Simmonds when he opened EyeTech in Soho, back in the day. Until then, wearing spectacles meant you were some kind of dweeb. Annual visits to a borderline pervert with bad breath and an inevitable booger; and then the routine of being shown the minuscule range of prostheses, like some poor tool being shown the latest in artificial legs.
Adam turned what had been for many of us a disability into a style opportunity. Almost single-handedly he made spectacles cool. I owe him gratitude for that. The Eyevan flip-ups. The LA Eyeworks Botta in black and tortoiseshell. Those original Oliver Peoples with the cool clips. The Alain Miklis I gave to a girlfriend. The other Alain Miklis which looked like something from space. I remember every pair.
And I can tell you this: Mr Simmonds is a man of absolute integrity. If there's been some foul-up with the blasted sunglasses, it's not him who's made it.
We all have our harmless lunacies, god knows, and I wish you all joy of yours even though I don't share it. But given the range of people involved here -- Luxotica, MGM, Tom Ford, three thousand one-per-centers taking their product-placement cuts, a raft of PR flacks, and Adam Simmonds -- I know the first one I'd cut out of the loop of any possible misrepresentation, and it's Adam.
Actually, you know what? I think those OP sunglasses look just nifty and now that it seems they're not the ones in the film, I think I'll buy a pair. Then if anyone calls me a Bondy, I can just say "Actually, my dear chap, I think you'll find..."
So. Good luck, chaps, but disabuse yourselves of the notion that Mr Simmonds is trying to pull some kind of flanker. It's just not in the man's repertoire, and I say that as one with no commercial or other connection with him except as a long-time more-than-satisfied customer.
Live long, and prosper.
--Michael
I raise my glass to such loyal customers like you, who register on a forum for the only purpose to defend their optician -{
To give a kind of counter-opinion:
So far, Adam Simmonds did not even feel the need to apologize for his misleading information regarding the OP sunglasses, infact, he still gives false information over his webpage regarding the limited quantities of the Airman.
No matter, who is responsable for this kind of fiasco, he did cause harm and he should apologize for this.
And as I have pointed outpreviously, he was still giving out false information, when he exactly knew, that the facts were others. So blaming everybody but him is easy, but not according to the facts.
I myself have been treated downright rudely and unprofessionally by himself and parts of his staff and the transaction was far away from being smooth.
I never heard any kind of apologize from his side, which does not comply too much with the entire gentleman attitude, that you are trying to draw out here.
And accusing others for copying other products and bashing on other products in public (here on the board and over his webpage) does not display a sophisticated attitude in my opinion, no matter how correct this substancially may be.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
But I can't believe how rude people are regarding this issue. Look, whenever someone becomes an early adopter, you run the risk of having problems. Think of it as being on the bleeding edge. I bought my iphone 3g on the day of release, and look at all the issues that have plagued that device. In the case of these sunglasses, many of you couldn't wait for Eon to release their list of marketing partners, threw caution to the wind and trusted an "expert." Now look what you've gotten yourselves into.
Like I said, early adopters rarely come out on top. This was most certainly a hard lesson for many of you eager types who couldn't wait a few simple months.
As for me, I took Mantis' suggestion and went to Target. For under $20, I found a suitable alternative.
Wear the damn OP's no one is going to know the difference (unless they're going to sit in a display in your basement).
The posts here are mainly for 2 purposes. The first is to get the exact same items, the second purpose is to get the nearest too.
I like the exact same items, I bought the OPs, and although they are not right, I'll be keeping them as they are nice sunglasses, BUT, I'll be buying the TFs as well.
To be honest,and with real respect, the official list of partners with regards product placement isn't worth spit. With QoS, all the real clothiers are keeping their heads down. Hence why Mantis, SRUZGAR and myself have been spending small fortunes on phone bills to the real suppliers. That said, I would never discourage anyone from looking for themselves. All the research is not for private use, it's to share, so anyone who can help is most welcome.
All the best
Duncan
http://www.theglassescenter.com/online-shop-12184.html