How would YOU do it?

Sweepy the Cat

Let's imagine that Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson are not satisfied with Marc Foster's Quantum of Solace and decide to approach you to make the movie. You only have to use the same characters and the basic plot. You can change plot points, creat action scenes and decide how everything goes. How would YOU do it?


1. Film the freefall/DC-10 sequence with stuntment as opposed to Craig and Olga in CGI

2. New theme song (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pB3qPqloLgo)

3. Replace the new MI6 with the one from Casino Royale

4. Slow down the gun-barrel (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DGfRJkBdZM0&feature=related)

Barbel

1) Hire an experienced editor with previous Bond history.

2) Let David Arnold write the title song.

3) Put the gunbarrel where it belongs.

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

Sweepy the Cat

Barbel wrote:

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

Then we would get another DAF

Higgins

I would hang out signs in all theaters which say:

More casual viewers who sit back with a bucket of popcorn and expect to be entertained MUST switch ON their brains otherwise they will NOT be pleased.

All viewers are required to ENGAGE and are expected you to understand Casino Royale.

This may be tough, but the movie is SMART and REWARDING but very, very, different.

Barbel

Sweepy the Cat wrote:

Barbel wrote:

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

Then we would get another DAF

Er... Brosnan wasn't in that one, Sweeps.

John Drake

Barbel wrote:

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

He should have plenty after Mama Mia.



Hands on your hips boys! )

Sweepy the Cat

Bondtoys wrote:

I would hang out signs in all theaters which say:

More casual viewers who sit back with a bucket of popcorn are and expect to be entertained MUST switch ON their brains otherwise they will NOT be pleased.

All viewers are required to ENGAGE and are expected you to understand Casino Royale.

This may be tough, but the movie is SMART and REWARDING but very, very, different.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery )

Napoleon Plural

1) Ditch desert stuff, stick to snow and ice European finale originally suggested by Wade and Purvis. Maybe set it in Russia outskirts somewhere or near Black Sea, Ukraine perhaps.

2) Ditch freefall scene

3) Ratchet up the paranoia factor against Quantum, make them more of a creepy cult with more hints at where this is going. Give Bond an attitude towards the cult that echoes wise guy attitudes to all cults eg Scientology, giving it a current topical emphasis

4) Mathis girl is traitor 'We have people everywhere'

5) Bond has a breather. Touches base back home, some London shots. We see his pad. Hint at more characters to come in mi6 location, a Spooks-style gang. Posonby?

6) Vesper ghost pops up via messaging or something.

7) Recast Camille so more haunting and ethereal rather than grumpy and two-dimensional. Ditch all the stuff about how she meets Bond and confronts Greene.

Campbell gets lots of praise but I wouldn't reuse much of his Villiers stuff, he dropped the ball there.

Higgins

Sweepy the Cat wrote:

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery )

...sometimes it is the opposite with the purpose to point out simple thinking, easy replies and narrow-minded labelling...
It's also called sarcasm

Sweepy the Cat

Turn Q.U.A.N.T.U.M into Scientologists led by Tom Cruise! Turn Vesper into a ghost!

What are you smoking!?

Napoleon Plural

Er okay not a real ghost, ghostly presence I mean! So we see her face again...

darenhat

First, I'd burn the original script and in the process Mr. Green's character. I'd put a larger emphasis on Vesper's boyfriend and keep him prominent throughout. And begin the process of introducing Q-Branch with an arrogant Bond who doesn't want some lethal contraption to carry about but by the end realizes the fun he can have with it. Bring back some of the boyishness we saw in Connery!

Oh - I'd drop Dench and put in a new M!

Napoleon Plural

Ooh, that's good darenhat! {[]

I'd have a gadget backfire nastily, explaining Bond's traditional disdain. Maybe killing an assailant in a more gruesome manner than envisaged.

Barbel

darenhat wrote:

First, I'd burn the original script and in the process Mr. Green's character. I'd put a larger emphasis on Vesper's boyfriend and keep him prominent throughout. And begin the process of introducing Q-Branch with an arrogant Bond who doesn't want some lethal contraption to carry about but by the end realizes the fun he can have with it. Bring back some of the boyishness we saw in Connery!

Oh - I'd drop Dench and put in a new M!

Except for the last bit (I'm a DJD Defender, doubtless a definition for Loeff's dictionary! ) ), sounds good to me. Any thoughts on Mr. White's role, dh? (In terms of larger or smaller)

c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5

Napoleon Plural wrote:

6) Vesper ghost pops up via messaging or something.

In all seriousness, is that one a joke?

?:)

darenhat

Barbel wrote:

Any thoughts on Mr. White's role, dh? (In terms of larger or smaller)

I think Mr. White would be a good "henchmen" or lackey (much better than Elvis) who is the only face of Quantum we see. While Blofeld's identity was never revealed in the early films, he was always seen giving orders. With Quantum, White can be the "mouthpiece" for Quantum's leader. Maybe we can get clues to Quantum's leader - a name, a location - but never, ever see him.

Am I the only one who thought M got shot when the firefight broke out during White's interrogation? I almost jumped out of my seat and cheered

00-Agent

darenhat wrote:

Am I the only one who thought M got shot when the firefight broke out during White's interrogation? I almost jumped out of my seat and cheered

I thought she was shot also but I did not have the same reaction to it as you did.:))

darenhat

00-Agent wrote:

darenhat wrote:

Am I the only one who thought M got shot when the firefight broke out during White's interrogation? I almost jumped out of my seat and cheered

I thought she was shot also but I did not have the same reaction to it as you did.:))

I was certain she was shot...or she was clutching her chest as if having a heart attack. Either one would have been acceptable.

Smoke_13

The Quantum script idea was very good in my opinion. It just missed the mark with a couple minor things.

1) Get it through somebody's thick skull that Bond is not a superhero. He's a very gifted, resourceful agent who finds himself in very extraordinary, almost insurmountable experiences. These experiences cause him physical anguish, metal stress and emotional duress -and until somebody understands how to convey Flemings Bond in that exact way all the Bond movies I watch will be nothing more than mildly entertaining. Hats off to CR for coming the closest in a long time.

2) That said, the scene (SPOILER ALERT) where Bond and Camille are trapped by the flames should be entirely redone. Slow it down, get them a little more gradually to the point where they realize they're trapped, then slowly, deliberately have Bond begin to ready his weapon. My Bond refused to enter a mission with a prescribed cyanide pill, and my Bond would not rush into a thought of suicide -unless his personal sacrifice meant saving 1,000's of lives. A la Moonraker the novel.

3) Greene needed more screen time. I didn't hate him enough. His death scene should have been redone as well. I didn't find it particularly rewarding. I get that Bond had grown by the end of the movie...but show me that growth AND have Greene get a death he deserved.

4) All scenes with MI6 and the CIA need to be redone. Both organizations seemed to come off as having a serious lack of intelligence or common sense. Suddenly M who heads up my hero's secret service has gone daft and can't judge character? My Bond looked up to and admired his boss. In the early novels he was almost puppy dog loyal to his employer. Felix Lieter's immediate boss was unbelievably thick in the head as well and made the CIA look incredibly daft as well.

...there's a quick 4 but I could go on and on and on.

I didn't hate Quantum but it was just so frustrating for me to see a movie that could have been so great miss the mark as badly as it did.

(Boy did I need to get that off my chest)-{

Smoke_13

P.S. I forgot to add to my post that this is by far one of your best topic ideas Sweepy. Great idea for this forum.

lavabubble

Napoleon Plural wrote:

4) Mathis girl is traitor 'We have people everywhere'

6) Vesper ghost pops up via messaging or something.

I think number 4 is a great idea actually - it would be an interesting twist and might've kept Mathis alive for future films

and

If any of the UK filmgoers know what I mean by this, 6) reminded me of the sort of suggestion in those Orange 'turn off your phone' spots before the film :

"That's amazing - Vesper could video call Bond from beyond the grave on the new Sony Ericsson K890i, telling him who was blackmailing her and then using the built in GPS to give him directions. Genius!"

This is a link to the latest one featuring Angelica Houston if anyone who hasn't seen them wants a look http://www.orange.co.uk/film/25141.htm?linkfrom=hp4&link=column2_pos_3_link_photo&article=081101x1000x8brandanjelicahuston

Personally I would ditch the dogfight and I think it would've been slightly more convincing if they'd landed the plane (or just driven to the location) and ended up in the middle of the operations of building the latest dam and had some sort of standoff with more Quantum members etc - putting a few more faces in the picture for the ongoing story.

Gassy Man

I wouldn't change much except for the ridiculous editing -- somewhere on the cutting room floor is the rest of the scenes that would make the sketch of a far better movie meaningful.

Sweepy the Cat

Smoke_13 wrote:

P.S. I forgot to add to my post that this is by far one of your best topic ideas Sweepy. Great idea for this forum.

Thanks {[]

:007)

Napoleon Plural

lavabubble wrote:

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If any of the UK filmgoers know what I mean by this, 6) reminded me of the sort of suggestion in those Orange 'turn off your phone' spots before the film :

"That's amazing - Vesper could video call Bond from beyond the grave on the new Sony Ericsson K890i, telling him who was blackmailing her and then using the built in GPS to give him directions. Genius!"

This is a link to the latest one featuring Angelica Houston if anyone who hasn't seen them wants a look http://www.orange.co.uk/film/25141.htm?linkfrom=hp4&link=column2_pos_3_link_photo&article=081101x1000x8brandanjelicahuston

Personally I would ditch the dogfight and I think it would've been slightly more convincing if they'd landed the plane (or just driven to the location) and ended up in the middle of the operations of building the latest dam and had some sort of standoff with more Quantum members etc - putting a few more faces in the picture for the ongoing story.

Cheers lava'! Actually have Ms Huston as a Bond villain Irma Bunt type cos she is creepy in that clip!

Have Bond hire the DC-10, someone else flying it, then they drop out. He uses an inflatable dinghy as a parachute, but they end up on a frozen mountain slope - oh, hang on.

hackett

Put the Bond theme back in.

Stop the fast cuts on the action shots.

Napoleon Plural

Revert to the original ending devised by Forster but cut due to legal reasons, hence the short running time.

Greene is picked up by Quantum in the desert and knocked out. He awakens in a blurry way (shades of Bond coming to in CR) and we see it from his pov that he seems to be in a hospital with sexy nurses. He is paralysed from the neck down and can't speak but can only communicate by blinking. But Quantum have put him in their own torture venue (shades of Hostel) and intend to punish him. At first the girls taunt him by showing off their curvy naked figures, slowly stripping. Then it turns nasty - they smoke in front of his naked eye, blowing smoke across his retina. He has hallucingenic flashbacks to the head of Quantum, who now appears to be his father, played by Max Von Sydow. It climaxes with TV footage of vile sadistic torture intercut with shots of his loved ones, his sole eye gurning in its socket, forced open in the manner of A Clockwork Orange.

Babs had a fit when she saw it, apparently.

c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5

I'd leave it exactly how it is.

Number24

Smoke_13 wrote:

4) All scenes with MI6 and the CIA need to be redone. Both organizations seemed to come off as having a serious lack of intelligence or common sense. Suddenly M who heads up my hero's secret service has gone daft and can't judge character? My Bond looked up to and admired his boss. In the early novels he was almost puppy dog loyal to his employer. Felix Lieter's immediate boss was unbelievably thick in the head as well and made the CIA look incredibly daft as well.

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After reading the book "Legacy of ashes" I fear the portrayal of CIA (and possibly MI6) is correct

frostbitten

Barbel wrote:

1) Hire an experienced editor with previous Bond history.

2) Let David Arnold write the title song.

3) Put the gunbarrel where it belongs.

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

It's scary how great minds think alike! {[]

Barbel

frostbitten wrote:

Barbel wrote:

1) Hire an experienced editor with previous Bond history.

2) Let David Arnold write the title song.

3) Put the gunbarrel where it belongs.

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

It's scary how great minds think alike! {[]

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John Drake wrote:

Barbel wrote:

4) Call Pierce Brosnan and ask if he's got some free time...

He should have plenty after Mama Mia.



Hands on your hips boys! )