Brosnan The Most Boring Bond???
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Why is it that when I watch one of Brosnan's Bond films I can never stay focused on the film and completely lose interest but when it comes to Connery,Moore,Dalton,Lazenby,and Craig, I cant stop watching it over and over. I just wanted to know how many people out there have the same problem I have, because to me, Brosnan isnt just the lamest Bond, but the most boring.
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Take TND as an example. Two Bond girls I dislike, a head baddie and henchmen who bore me to tears, and my least favorite title song.
But guess what? Brosnan's potrayal negates all of that. Bond's what matters. And PB was a good 'un.
I'm sure that in the future Brozzas films will once again ascend in view-ability.
Not to say anyone else would have been better, I mean having Connery in TND wouldn't make it better imo, just show up it's bad points. Can't be sure, but there's the sense that Brosnan couldn't rise above his material, and much of it was not really good enough. Connery could rise above his material always - but only when it was good. When it was bad, his performance suffered correspondingly imo.
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But Pierce who looks like he could open the proverbial can of whup ass in a second rocks. (Especially in GE)
My favorite PB moment. Waking up tied down in the Tiger helicopter with a screaming Natalya in the back seat and hitting the ejector with his head at the last second. Too cool.
Actually that scene put me in mind of one in Die Hard 2 at the time...
I guess my fave PB moment is the TWINE opener, his wry comments about Swiss bankers. Good stuff.
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This has hit the point. Craig looks like someone who could really handle himself in a fight and kill. Brosnan looks like he'd have trouble defending himself if it came to fisticuffs. Looks good, wears suits well, delivers comedic lines, but is not a Bond that performs in a Bondian world like you got with Connery and we are certainly getting with Craig.
Brozzer was a fine Bond; he was very much of his time and put bums in seats. I thought he brought a nice mix of attributes to the table---even in DAD, whose first half showcases some of his best moments in the role---and I'd never call him 'boring.'
Lots of great little moments stick out for me---the fight on the yacht in GE, where he slaps the guy with the towel before he kicks his ass...the hotel room scene in TND before Paris Carver shows up (vodka and regrets)..."I never miss" after killing Electra stone dead in TWINE..."Tell to the concierge" and the 'Robinson Crusoe wants his usual suite' from DAD.
I even loved the sword fight in that film...to me, his final great Bond moment.
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TND is my least favourite Bond film. An unconvincing baddie, two lousy Bond Girls, and basically a 2 hour BMW advert. Awful film. I didn't like the whole "Did I get too close?" thing going on with the Brosnan Bond Girls in GE and TND. It was too.....I dunno....sickening, probably.
Still, no way was he a boring Bond. None of them have been. GE is a great romp; TWINE is fun, if you ignore some out-of-character moments (from M and Bond - can't remember the specifics, but there are certain lines and certain behaviours that jar when watching that film). DAD is okay, but I never could stand the notion of Bond being captured and held for a long period of time. Some of DAD was good; some of it was excrutiatingly bad.
But not boring.
Not many will disagree with your sumise of Die Another Day, although there are some good bits as with all the films.
I think the soundtrack in Goldeneye is simply mind-numbingly dull and I often fall asleep when trying to watch it. It's the film I set out to watch with good intentions, yet never see through to the end. Many of Brosnan's moments are great, though his villans were never exciting enough and retained far too much time on screen without him.
I liked Brosnan a great deal, but he sudenly seems to have become unexciting now that Daniel Craig has come onto the screen. He's edgy and hard, and possibly a bit too rough around the edges to what we are used to. But I think we will all get used to it and it will be for the better. The books and the films are a world apart and the distance just got bigger.
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That's interesting; I find the gap narrowing.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Connery sleepwalking through YOLT was pretty boring; and I find Roger Moore's got-out-of-the-wrong-side-of-the-bed attitude in TMWTGG pretty tiresome, though I don't know if "boring" applies. But I agree with most everyone here--Brosnan has never been a bore.
i mean, when I think about all of the different Bond actors and compare them all I might say Brosnan is the most boring of them all, but then again I might say that Dalton was pretty boring too. Connery was certainly not boring, nor was Moore, Lazenby was interesting enough and Craig certainly is not boring.
With that said I have nothing against Brosnan although his films aren't my favourites. Goldeneye was certainly his best and is in my Top Ten. However, when compared to the other Bonds IMO he contends for most boring. This does not necessarily make him boring outright (I still watch his films, enjoy his acting and his one-liners etc.), but the most boring of the Bonds...which is the question at hand.
To contradict myself, yes the gap certainly narrowed with Casino Royale. Very close to the book.
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Like others have said though, he had to act through some absolute dog turd scripts apart from GE.
Moore had the eyebrow, Connery had the style, Dalton the toughness and Lazenby doesn't count so from that point of view he could be seen as more boring than others.
I think that because Brosnan did not look like a cartoon hardass they were forced to display some real skill in the physical confrontations to overcome that ( I'd like this dimension to feature in future Bond films, as the cleverness has been missing of late)
The fight in the studio in TWINE is also good, and I particularly like the way he ways up the ashtray before using it as a weapon.
Other good examples are the Bond-Alex final confrontation in GE which is one of the best fights in the series, and the superb fencing scene in DAD. I get no sense of doubt or impausability when watching Brosnan in these kind of scenes, as contrated by Roger for example who always moved badly and lacked credibility in action scenes (by his own admission he really didn't like doing them)
For me Brosnan while not my favourite Bond was a lot better than the material he got to work with.
I agree with you: that's probably one of the coolest moves Bond has ever pulled off. The economy and smoothness of motion of all the actions chained together (taking out the knife, pinning the tie with it, kicking out the henchman's legs from under him, taking his gun, and then picking up a drink from the bartender ) are what made it so cool.
Also, as a martial artist, I'm sure you appreciated how Bond really studied the opponent before taking him on (by using the X-ray glasses - a not too far-fetched gadget - to find out where the villain kept his gun and knife).
Brosnan's finest effort IMO was TWINE, where he had a cracker of a script, and he had great chemistry playing off Sophie Marceau (the supporting ensemble weren't too shabby either).
Was PB boring? Hardly.