SHOULD THEY REMAKE THE BAD BOND FILMS

maddogmacias

SHOULD THEY REMAKE THE BAD BOND FILMS?

I'm referring to
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
MOONRAKER
OCTUPUSSY
A VIEW TO A KILL

not the recent ones

Tilly Masterson 007

Whatever for?

What's done is done!

maddogmacias

Whatever for?

To correct the mistakes, and make a good film out of a bad one. thats what for.

Tilly Masterson 007

There are no mistakes as far as the producers/directors etc are concerned, after all they wrapped on each film satisfied with the way it is!

I strongly disagree in remaking films.

Barbel

I'm with Tilly- no remakes. Using Fleming material that hasn't been filmed, now that's a different story.

Edit: PS- Opinions vary as to what are/were bad Bond films.

agent 00

You could remake the films and stay close to the books storywise.
And do the films in book order
CR
LALD
MR
DAF
etc.....

another way to die

well may be when they make so much bond films and get out of idea's that might work,HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL :007) -AWTD

zaphod

A strong arguement could be made for new versions of Novels where the filmed versions used little more than the titles and names of key characters. It would not be stretching a point to argue that MR or YOLT have not been filmed yet.

I think as long as the approach was similar to the one adopted for CR where the plot, characters, and motivations are easily recogniseable, but expanded would be ok. It's much more likely that this could be done on Television and in period rather than in the Cinema, although I'd love to see a Cinematic realisation of Blofields deadly Garden with the whole Bond in Japan shtick. A little artistic license with the timeline could combine Bonds attempt to kill M as a climax to YOLT which would set up the next movie nicely.
Alas I think that the chances of tis happening are slim-to none though as I fear that we are in for James Bourne again next time around.

Barry Nelson

No Bond remakes, new stories only. For better or worse each Bond movie stands on its own. Every film has something memorable in it and I wouldn't want to see any previous film lessoned by a remake.

chrisno1

Barry Nelson wrote:

No Bond remakes, new stories only. For better or worse each Bond movie stands on its own. Every film has something memorable in it and I wouldn't want to see any previous film lessoned by a remake.

I'd second that. My opinion on this subject is that the best way to shed new light onto Bond would be to develop a series of television movies / series based closer on the books. The books are almost period peices (ie 1950s) and an adaptation could be writen with this in mind, especially given the way they do stuff like Poirot, Life On Mars etc on the box these days. Be tricky adapting the short stories though.

LOO7K OUT

Although I'm against remakes of Bond films.

One thing does stick in my mind and that is The Man with the Golden Gun.

The worlds greatest secret agent verus the worlds greatest professional assasin - should have been so good....

blueman

No need for remakes, as QOS has shown - there's good Bond stories to tell out there yet.

words

maddogmacias wrote:

SHOULD THEY REMAKE THE BAD BOND FILMS?

I'm referring to
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
MOONRAKER
OCTUPUSSY
A VIEW TO A KILL

not the recent ones

Octopussy? I love that film! (I love Moonraker as well but realise that's an unpopular opinion!)

BRIXMIS

I see I'm swimming against the tide, but I would have nothing against re-makes of the howlers in the Bond series. Using current prduction values, telling the stories in a modern way , ala CR. Of course it wont happen, but heres one person who would'nt be up in arms if they did some re-makes. I realise theres 2 different ( at least) Bond fans. Some people think of him as a suave, debonair gent with always a quip ready, performing outrageous stunts. I prefer the 'blunt instrument ' of Fleming, so in terms of films, prefer the older ones ( read Connery). I think DC has gone a great job of stepping into this role, and it was CR that re-kindled my interest in the film Bond.

jetsetwilly

Who's to say they won't make them worse? After all, the novels of Diamonds Are Forever and The Man With The Golden Gun aren't that good in the first place, so an adaptation that clung closely to their structure would be pretty unsatisfying. So the film makers would pretty much have to come up with their own plot, taking only a couple of key elements - for example, the Bond Girl, the villain, the bare bones of the plot, a couple of incidents - in other words, what they did the first time round. Which sort of begs the question; what's the point?

Moonraker has in fact been remade anyway, as Die Another Day, and we all know what a success that was. Octopussy's an adaptation of two short stories, one of which isn't very good anyway (in fact, the film improves on the story), so the remade material would make up hardly anything onscreen. And A View To A Kill is already a remake of Goldfinger, and its plot (villain corners market in a precious resource by destroying competition) was sort of then used again in The World Is Not Enough, and then sort of used again in Quantum of Solace, so I think we've all seen quite enough of that.

So back to my original point. If you're remaking these films by adapting the Fleming again, then you're either going back to dodgy source material, or using reheated elements. And if you're not using the Fleming again, then you're using stuff that the film makers invented themselves, which makes you wonder - why ask the same people to make the same movie again when they didn't get it right the first time?

New, original films, using touches of Fleming where they can, is the way forward for Bond, just as it has been since about 1971. And anyway, I actually like some of those "bad" Bond films...

scurr01

I thought Octopussy was one of the best- Moore's best film at least

Jamesbondjr

I would disagree with re-making your 'bad' bond films. I enjoy at least some aspects of all the films even the ones that aren't high on my list. For instance I'm not a big fan of DAD but I really enjoy the first 3rd of the film.

What I would suggest is filming the books that haven't been closely adapted under different titles, LALD, MR, DAF. Or at least using sections that have been ignored entirely in the film versions. Bond's underwater walk to Kananga's island in LALD and his run in with the octopus, the deserted town in DAF for example.

I don't think the current producers would ever allow remakes anyway.

Sweepy the Cat

Technically TB has already been remade into 'Never Say Never Again' although a couple of other Connery's were remade for Moore and Brosnan too.

The 'big three' (Connery, Moore and Brosnan) have all done the same film in their own different way (YOLT, TSWLM & TND) whilst AVTAK was pretty much GF but with microchips instead of gold.