OP and Roger's Rude gesture

John Drake

I never noticed this before. Maybe it was watching the film on a high-def TV. During the climactic chase sequence in OP, Bond is offered a lift by some spoilt rich kids, who then drive away laughing. Roger Moore clearly makes a gesture that indicates they should get it right up them. He has his back to the camera but you get the gist. I fell about laughing. Has anybody else noticed this? Or am I going mad and imagining things.

Napoleon Plural

It's always been there JD! Sort of throwing his arm up in the air in an angry gesticulation.

Loeffelholz

Probably right after the banister scene in terms of my favourites in an otherwise [inflammatory pejorative deleted] film.

RJJB

Yeah, the hand gesture is there. Another testimony to the high quality manure that existed in the Roger Moore live action cartoons.

00-Agent

I have always disliked that scene in an otherwise good movie.

Tobias

yes i have noticed it but it is not done in bad taste it is also noticed in the living daylights when bond and kara escape from the russian prison and kamran sticks his middle finger at the jailor if you watch carefully you will notice it

RJJB

It's not a question of taste. A correctly portrayed James Bond would not flip someone off. It was a poorly done scene.

Sir Hillary Bray

RJJB wrote:

It's not a question of taste. A correctly portrayed James Bond would not flip someone off. It was a poorly done scene.

Agree the Moore films can be cartoons, but this is hardly a major example of that. 8-)

RJJB

Sir Hillary Bray wrote:

RJJB wrote:

It's not a question of taste. A correctly portrayed James Bond would not flip someone off. It was a poorly done scene.

Agree the Moore films can be cartoons, but this is hardly a major example of that. 8-)

I haven't wasted time watching Octopussy in over 20 years. But I can clearly remember this scene, so for me, it qualifies as enough of an example of the low quality of the Moore films.

John Drake

I liked that scene. They were rich ********s and worthy of contempt. What would have been better is if Bond shot the driver in the head and stole the car. He is licensed to kill after all. It's hardly the worst scene in a movie that dresses Roger as a clown, has him do a Tarzan yell, and tell a tiger to 'sit.'

Loeffelholz

John Drake wrote:

What would have been better is if Bond shot the driver in the head and stole the car. He is licensed to kill after all. It's hardly the worst scene in a movie that dresses Roger as a clown, has him do a Tarzan yell, and tell a tiger to 'sit.'

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RJJB

It's not the idea that it's the worst scene, because it's not. It it, however, a very clear indication that the producers/writers/directors did not know how to treat the character properly.

Youknowthename

Oh come on.... a middle finger upsets people ??? How about the mindless violence in TND's climax scene ? Or how about gentleman Bond dropping Sandor off the roof in TSWLM ? But it's the finger that does it for some... *quotes Dr. Evil* "Honestly..."

RJJB

Youknowthename wrote:

Oh come on.... a middle finger upsets people ??? How about the mindless violence in TND's climax scene ? Or how about gentleman Bond dropping Sandor off the roof in TSWLM ? But it's the finger that does it for some... *quotes Dr. Evil* "Honestly..."

The middle finger "upsets" people because it's not something that Bond would do. It was not true to the character. I would flip them off, but I'm definitely not James Bond.

I agree about the mindless violence at the climax of TND. Again, it was a a bad portryal, as it turned Bond into a Terminator/one man wrecking crew type. But Bond dropping Sandor from the roof is entirely in character, echoing back to Bond dispensing Prof. Dent in Dr. No.
Both man had tried to kill Bond, and he used his license to kill to dispatch them.

John Drake

As far as I could tell it is not the middle finger, it is a gesture that in Scotland means 'Get it right up ye.' You raise your right arm, clench your hand into a fist, and move your left arm across it then raise your right arm even further. Mind you, I still think he should have shot them.

Napoleon Plural

I agree about the gesture JD.

Yes he should have shot them and then buried them in an unmarked shallow grave. Except then the bomb might have gone off, swings and roundabouts really.