Tiny Grievances
Mister White
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Based on the great thread of Tiny Pleasures (Thanks Willy) I thought it might be an idea to start a thread where we can list the tiny things that annoy us. I know how we all like to bitch and moan...:v
Here's mine:
The sound effect that they have added in TMWTGG, when the car jumps the river. It's stupid, childish and not needed. And to add insult to injury, it's even on the soundtrack, ruïning what would have been a perfectly good piece of music.X-(
Here's mine:
The sound effect that they have added in TMWTGG, when the car jumps the river. It's stupid, childish and not needed. And to add insult to injury, it's even on the soundtrack, ruïning what would have been a perfectly good piece of music.X-(
"Christ, I miss the Cold War."
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For me it would be the finale of FRWL, where there's an obvious cut reference to Bond and Tania's sexual shenanigans that should be reinstated if only they could find the footage, and the jumpy shaky camera for the end credits. It's a bit jarring.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
No, at the moment of their discovery, they high-tail it back, (at warp speed), to bring Largo a scuba mask.
Sorry, just something about their haste after finding something a fugitive could easily remove that bothers me. Then again, Vargas probably doesn't "think" either.
Mind you, (now I sound like NP), TB's one of the favorites.
The Editing In QOS
Most of TMWTGG, The as mentioned Whistle over the car jump.
The Fighting Schoolgirls who then leave Bond behind.
The Silly Crocodile sub From Octopussy.
Jealous Husbands,Outraged Chefs, Humilated Tailors The List Is Endless.
OHMSS - Never liked the fight scene in the hallway outside Draco's office. It's impossible to follow, and the weird echoes make no sense. The scene feels oddly psychedelic.
TMWTGG - Can't stand how Hip's voice is dubbed in some of the scenes. The indoor scenes are Soon Taik Oh's real voice, but any time Hip is outdoors or yelling, it's clearly someone else. An annoying distraction.
OHMSS: Telly Savalas
What was wrong with Anthony Dawson?
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Max Von Sydow might have been good, in more serious mode than in NSNA, especially in OHMSS. I wish Lazenby had been up against a less charming Blofeld as it takes the focus of gravity away from him imo.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
1. LTK: The two OTT truck stunts at the end, ruining what would otherwise have been a perfect Bond film.
2. LTD: The cheesy "Barry Manilow" dialogue between Bond and Moneypenny
(You can tell I'm very invested in Dalton's bond)
3. DAD: Jinx killing Miranda Frost, when I would rather have had it the other way round.
TB: The fade/switching/spinning editing between scenes. And Sean Connerys look of lack of interest.
YOLT: Generally the poor quality of how this film looks.
FYEO: Resorting to sillyness, as they feel they need it.
MR to AVTAK: Lois Maxwell as Moneypenny, looked older than Roger Moore. Although she is lovely.
TND: Too much gun action.
DAD: Graves' lines. Like "under the skin" just feel pretentious.
CR: House falling in Venice, just seemed a little OTT, but still alright.
QoS: How Fields looks went downhill at Greenes party.
"Better make that two."
DN - the soundtrack. Always intusive and never appropriate. Thank God they found John Barry.
TB - Bond's knocking out the guard at Palmyra. He's meant to be sneaking in without any one seeing him yet he insists on knocking out a guard that hasn't spotted him and then leaving the unconscious body lying about for anybody to find.
OHMSS - the'this never happened to the other fella' line. Really winds me up. Totally shatters the illusion that we are meant to be watching the same character.
DAF - most of the movie actually, but particuliarly the miscasting and writing of Blofeld. And of course as has been mentioned Blofeld in drag.
LALD - Kananga's death.
TMWTGG - the end fight with Nic Nac.
TSWLM - Jaws surviving.
MR - the entire movie.
FYEO - start and end. The 'I'll buy you a delicatessent in stainless steel' at the start, and the Maggie Thatcher bit at the end.
OP - the crocidile sub, and the girls raid on Khan's palace.
AVTAK - Beach Boys track in PCS.
TLD - the name of the villian. Brad Whittaker - thats what you call your next door neighbour, not a Bond vilian.
LTK - too sombre.
TND - Jonathan Pryce miscast.
DAD - invisible car
QOS - shaky camera work
NO CLOSURE ON THE BLOFELD STORY! DAF ended ambiguously and FYEO hardly provided the solution and Bond's final "revenge" on Blofeld. It makes my so angry and all because of that arse McClory.
My other minor annoyance would be the poor looking green screen shot of Connery sliding down the ... slide in Thunderball, when in the previous shot it was real and looked better.
My final point is when Lazenby breaks the forth wall. As if coping with the enormous shift in character tone and appearance wasn't enough, and for the previous actor to return! Sheesh. Although I am happy that Tamahori's suggestion of Connery's Bond being Brosnan's Bond's father (you follow), Bond is one man. Always was, always will be.
Blofeld is Bond's main enemy, his Moriarty, yet he never got the chance to finish him in a proper fashion. Blofelds 'death' at the end of DAF was totally anti-climatic (mind you so was most of the movie). Apart from the PTS there was no real reference to the fact that Blofeld has killed Bond's wife, and that was more implied than explicit. For all the reference that was made Blofeld could just have been any opponent Bond was chasing. When Bond discovers Blofeld is alive for all the reaction that was given they might as well have been two old school chums who fell out over a girl and hadn't spoken since. Bad writing and slack direction.
As for the PTS in FYEO while it was a good sequence it was put in more as two fingers to Kevin McClory rather than giving some proer closure. It never really came across as Blofeld, just a stuntman in a badly fitting shower cap.
@merseytart
I want more 'Double-Oh Sevens'...and a 'Commander' or two, while we're at it...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Just a tiny grievance.
M did indeed order Bond to leave the Beretta. But being arrogant and obstinate (the way we all love him
I believe the movie follows the book in this, but correct me if I am wrong as I haven't read Doctor No again since I was eight...:#
In the book Bond leaves the Beretta behind and takes the Walther and the Smith and Wesson Centennial Airweight that the armourer issues to him. M's orders are final and though Bond misses his Beretta he soon gets to know the Walther and Smith and Wesson as superior weapons. Professor Dent does not appear in the novel. He is a character created for the film.;)
Where Bond doesnt shoot him somehwere other than at his head because that pathetic glass sheild is blocking ONLY his face, shoot his heart or 5 times in the body!!!!!! X-(
"Better make that two."
"Your popgun is no use against modern body armour",I'll Have to have another look at this sceen.
Look again - that logo is "FN" (Fabrique Nationale) as the pistol is a Belgian licence made Browning 1910. The late Geoffrey Boothroyd told me that this was used because of its better (than the PPKs) reliability when firing blanks using a silencer.
That's movies...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Thanks for the info. It looked to me like the Beretta "arrows" logo. Good to know.
The other "tiny grievance" I have in an otherwise fairly good Bond movie is in GoldenEye. Who is the person that poses as the dead admiral with Xena before the Tiger is stolen? And how does Oroumov get in the chopper after?
Also, like others have said, the sound effect they added onto the jump in TMWTGG.
But there are a few more that I would like to mention. Most of them are really small things.
-Diamonds are forever
When 007 meets Peter Franks for the first time (outside Tiffany's apartment in Amsterdam) he says: "Guten abend" which is German, instead of "Goedenavond" which is Dutch. Although it seems like something small, I think it is an obvious mistake. But I might be biased.
-Moonraker
The "I never learned to read" line.
-Goldeneye
I really hate that little prayer Caroline does when Bond is racing Xenia in her Ferrari. It is such bad acting, every time I see it I cringe.
-TWINE
When M finds out that Electra has been playing her and Bond all along, she slaps Elektra in the face. I really think she should have punched her with her fist, I think it would be something the head of Mi6 would do instead of just slapping her. I would not have mind to see Elektra with a black eye the rest of the movie because of it.
- Octopussy:
The Tarzan holler. Hate that sooo much.
- A View to A Kill:
When Bond is posing as James St. John Smythe, there is a really annoying kink in Moore's hair, toward the neck. Very minor but very annoying (to me anyway