Except for parts of TND, Brosnan just never convinced me he was Bond, too... slight or something, thin, in the role. Not the right gravitas. His acting wasn't all that great, he seemed to be all over the place with his idea/interpretation of the part, sometimes within a single film.
But it's only 1 year since Mamma Mia. I can forgive Brosnan for DAD, but not MM.
It's funny. My mum is a huge fan of the film. She saw it twice at the cinemas and I got it for her for her birthday. She really loves the film, however she's less than thrilled with Brosnan's performance. ) She likes him generally but she doesn't love him in one of her favourite films.
BTW, I love the stage musical and next year, I'll be seeing it for a third time. ;%
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TND is an okay bond film but CR was pretty good but some the newer (except CR ) aren't bond films there action films QOS looked like a Jason Bourne movie. DAD all right good villian bad movie. Do u know what i'm getting at.
I didn't like Brosnan's Bond at all really. I never really enjoyed him as an actor to begin with, and James Bond was just another thing I did not enjoy from him. I could take absolutely nothing he did seriously, even when he played Bond very serious and very straight in "Goldeneye," he looked bad, he performed poorly.
goldeneye technically was meant to be a dalton film, but brosnan suffered from bad scripts and bad enemies. anyone remember jonathan pryce as elliott carver?.............
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Except for parts of TND, Brosnan just never convinced me he was Bond, too... slight or something, thin, in the role. Not the right gravitas. His acting wasn't all that great, he seemed to be all over the place with his idea/interpretation of the part, sometimes within a single film.
as a dalton fan , i think brosnans films wud have been better if dalton had starred in them.
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I didn't like Brosnan's Bond at all really. I never really enjoyed him as an actor to begin with, and James Bond was just another thing I did not enjoy from him. I could take absolutely nothing he did seriously, even when he played Bond very serious and very straight in "Goldeneye," he looked bad, he performed poorly.
goldeneye technically was meant to be a dalton film, but brosnan suffered from bad scripts and bad enemies. anyone remember jonathan pryce as elliott carver?.............
Well, Elliot Carver is the only reason that movie was watchable. Jonathan Pryce is a very charismatic actor, and his villain was a great way to take old fashioned villains like Dr. No and Goldfinger, and bring them to the technological age.
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"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
I didn't like Brosnan's Bond at all really. I never really enjoyed him as an actor to begin with, and James Bond was just another thing I did not enjoy from him. I could take absolutely nothing he did seriously, even when he played Bond very serious and very straight in "Goldeneye," he looked bad, he performed poorly.
goldeneye technically was meant to be a dalton film, but brosnan suffered from bad scripts and bad enemies. anyone remember jonathan pryce as elliott carver?.............
Well, Elliot Carver is the only reason that movie was watchable. Jonathan Pryce is a very charismatic actor, and his villain was a great way to take old fashioned villains like Dr. No and Goldfinger, and bring them to the technological age.
elliot carver was a weak villain protected by henchmen. although he is more believable than jaws
he is more updated though, i agree
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goldeneye technically was meant to be a dalton film, but brosnan suffered from bad scripts and bad enemies. anyone remember jonathan pryce as elliott carver?.............
Well, Elliot Carver is the only reason that movie was watchable. Jonathan Pryce is a very charismatic actor, and his villain was a great way to take old fashioned villains like Dr. No and Goldfinger, and bring them to the technological age.
elliot carver was a weak villain protected by henchmen. although he is more believable than jaws
he is more updated though, i agree
A villain protected by henchmen is bad because? I never thought brute strength was the key to Bond villains, but more an "inflated opinion" of themselves, and their plots for personal gain....
"A dry martini, in a deep champagne goblet. Three measures of Gordons, one of Vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until its ice cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?" - Ian Fleming's 'Casino Royale'
"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
Well, Elliot Carver is the only reason that movie was watchable. Jonathan Pryce is a very charismatic actor, and his villain was a great way to take old fashioned villains like Dr. No and Goldfinger, and bring them to the technological age.
elliot carver was a weak villain protected by henchmen. although he is more believable than jaws
he is more updated though, i agree
A villain protected by henchmen is bad because? I never thought brute strength was the key to Bond villains, but more an "inflated opinion" of themselves, and their plots for personal gain....
its like me saying, i dont want to die but u can cos ur protecting me
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Saw this topic and thought I'd post my two cents (pence).
I think Brosnan did a great job as Bond but, as others have said, he was lumbered with some incredibly bad scripts. GE is the best of his Bond flicks. The story is sleek and entertaining, while the proceeding movies grew increasingly cumbersome. TWINE, I have to say, is a mess . . . as is DAD.
Saw this topic and thought I'd post my two cents (pence).
I think Brosnan did a great job as Bond but, as others have said, he was lumbered with some incredibly bad scripts. GE is the best of his Bond flicks. The story is sleek and entertaining, while the proceeding movies grew increasingly cumbersome. TWINE, I have to say, is a mess . . . as is DAD.
It's interesting about TWINE. While I do think that it had a very good screenplay, it was also a disappointment to me in terms of the opportunites it passed up. For example, Renard couldn't feel any pain, yet almost no mention was made of this during the entire film; even in the climatic battle, this wasn't exploited. Also, while there's nothing necessarily wrong with M getting kidnapped, it struck me as simply an excuse to give Judi Dench more screentime.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Saw this topic and thought I'd post my two cents (pence).
I think Brosnan did a great job as Bond but, as others have said, he was lumbered with some incredibly bad scripts. GE is the best of his Bond flicks. The story is sleek and entertaining, while the proceeding movies grew increasingly cumbersome. TWINE, I have to say, is a mess . . . as is DAD.
It's interesting about TWINE. While I do think that it had a very good screenplay, it was also a disappointment to me in terms of the opportunites it passed up. For example, Renard couldn't feel any pain, yet almost no mention was made of this during the entire film; even in the climatic battle, this wasn't exploited. Also, while there's nothing necessarily wrong with M getting kidnapped, it struck me as simply an excuse to give Judi Dench more screentime.
Indeed, all valid points . . . especially in regards to Renard. He could have been a fantastic villain, but his character was never fully developed. The specific problem I had with TWINE is it struck me more as a James Bond parody than an actual Bond flick. I know a lot of people here enjoyed the boat chase in the PTS, but I felt as though I were watching a stunt show at Universal Studios. The whole thing just seemed somewhat corny.
TWINE was the first Bond film penned by Purvis and Wade. Funny how their two films are the worst of the Brosnan flicks (IMO). I'm actually surprised the producers have stuck with them as long as they have. CR was great, but I put the credit for that on Paul Haggis. I think they should bring back Michael France, who penned GE. I'd be interested to see what he would do with Daniel Craig's Bond . . . an even better suggestion, mind you, would be bring on Christopher Nolan as writer/director. That guy would serve up a seriously intense Bond experience.
An interesting thead, Brosnan was too tough, not tough enough, too serious, not serious enough, good in GE and TND, but nothing later, didn't like him in GE and TND, but did like him in TWINE and DAD. Just goes to show how EON will never please all Bond fans.
IMO, Brosnan was an excellent Bond. His physical appearance, in my eyes, is close to Fleming's Bond, his demeanor was about what I would expect of Bond too. He was able to convey a devotion for the job, while dismissive of the bureacracy involved at times. He also displayed on screen a love and passion for women, which Fleming's Bond have. He was able to handle the physical parts of the role, while still delivering the one liner (although some of them were terrible jokes). I also give him high marks for how he promoted Bond to prospective audiences, I think he was the best at that. Finally, I really believe he almost saved the second half of DAD with his sheer screen presence. Imagine any other of the Bond actors riding the rocket ice boat as CGI lights beams tried to stop them, riding the ice boat wreckage with a sail in front of a blue screen pretending those same CGI beams are about to kill them, or pantomiming his entrance into an invisible car. As bad as the script for the second half of DAD was, Brosnan darn near pulled it off. Not sure any other Bond actor would have done as well.
Well said. Brosnan is not my favourite Bond, but he was a fine Bond nonethless. It's interesting that I don't recal very much dissent or dissapointment with him during his tenure on these boards. It seems that since DC Brosnan comes in for a lot of flak. It may be that DC has shown up the flaws with Brosnan, but I still feel that he was better than he ever got the opportunity to be. He was great in TWINE and was even better in the excellent first half of DAD (he cannnot be blamed for the atrocity that is the second half) I particularly liked the point you make about Bonds dismissive/rebellious streak while still staying loyal and determined on the task (the " not our finest hour" scene in GE is a good example) it was there in Connerry (" duty 007, duty" as Bond says to himself while struggling to choose between following the girl or tracking Goldfinger) but Brosnan developed it. I have mentioned before the scene in TND where he pushes over the expensive kit out of sheer badness and just for the hell of it it's a great 'Bondian' moment and Brosnan pulled off several of these during his time.
i think brosnan was picked because after ltk bond films seemed to die for awhile so they needed a popular actor to play bond and brosnan seemed to be the right fit, even tho the plots of those movies SUCKED :v
Well, I thought GoldenEye was great when it came out. I was 9-10 and totally new to Bond. It is kind of bothersome with the critical dissections of the film such as Eric Serra's score and point out that Trevelyan was too young to be involved the pre-events to the film involving the Kossacs, but it is still the best.
I appreciated TND better in the cinema, I have only just rekindled how its a good film, and not strictly a good Bond film. TWINE's only good points are Sophie Marceau and Denise Richards- quite superficial reason, yes, but I just couldn't find any else good in there.
i wish people who constantly rant on about DAD and brosnan being crap would find something better to do.
yes, i get the point you don't like brosnan
yes, i understand you think DAD was crap
now please, i get the message, so please please please shut your bloody gob.
ps the above statment aint aimed at anyone particularly, im just sick to the back teeth of reading the same old 'i hate brosnan' rants time and time again.
Brosnan made a fine Bond. I thought Goldeneye was a terrific introduction for Brosnan as Bond, and I enjoyed much of The World is Not Enough. Unfortunately Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day where two of the weaker entries in the Bond franchise, but that was due to poor scripts, not Brosnan's acting. In my opinion he comes behind only Connery and Craig as my favorite Bond actors.
I'm out on a limb here, but I actually liked DAD. It was very different having Bond held prisoner and tortured, his relationship with M was new (in the fact he was outcast), there was plenty of action, a great car, and some real memorable moments. Poor things for me was the villain was too comic bookish, Jinx is annoying and I hate the whole "equal-to-Bond" thing. And the whole plane scene at the end pretty much sucked. As well as the para-gliding in Iceland. I think people will apreciate this film more and more as the whole re-boot thing carries on.
I will say, I'm not insane, and I am a true Bond fan. I like all the films (have a few issues with the final act of Moonraker though), have read all the Ian Fleming books more than once, and like all the Bond actors for different reasons. I just don't find DAD all that bad...
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But it's only 1 year since Mamma Mia. I can forgive Brosnan for DAD, but not MM.
BTW, I love the stage musical and next year, I'll be seeing it for a third time. ;%
goldeneye technically was meant to be a dalton film, but brosnan suffered from bad scripts and bad enemies. anyone remember jonathan pryce as elliott carver?.............
James Bond- Licence To Kill
as a dalton fan , i think brosnans films wud have been better if dalton had starred in them.
James Bond- Licence To Kill
Well, Elliot Carver is the only reason that movie was watchable. Jonathan Pryce is a very charismatic actor, and his villain was a great way to take old fashioned villains like Dr. No and Goldfinger, and bring them to the technological age.
"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
elliot carver was a weak villain protected by henchmen. although he is more believable than jaws
he is more updated though, i agree
James Bond- Licence To Kill
A villain protected by henchmen is bad because? I never thought brute strength was the key to Bond villains, but more an "inflated opinion" of themselves, and their plots for personal gain....
"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
its like me saying, i dont want to die but u can cos ur protecting me
James Bond- Licence To Kill
I think Brosnan did a great job as Bond but, as others have said, he was lumbered with some incredibly bad scripts. GE is the best of his Bond flicks. The story is sleek and entertaining, while the proceeding movies grew increasingly cumbersome. TWINE, I have to say, is a mess . . . as is DAD.
Indeed, all valid points . . . especially in regards to Renard. He could have been a fantastic villain, but his character was never fully developed. The specific problem I had with TWINE is it struck me more as a James Bond parody than an actual Bond flick. I know a lot of people here enjoyed the boat chase in the PTS, but I felt as though I were watching a stunt show at Universal Studios. The whole thing just seemed somewhat corny.
TWINE was the first Bond film penned by Purvis and Wade. Funny how their two films are the worst of the Brosnan flicks (IMO). I'm actually surprised the producers have stuck with them as long as they have. CR was great, but I put the credit for that on Paul Haggis. I think they should bring back Michael France, who penned GE. I'd be interested to see what he would do with Daniel Craig's Bond . . . an even better suggestion, mind you, would be bring on Christopher Nolan as writer/director. That guy would serve up a seriously intense Bond experience.
Well said. Brosnan is not my favourite Bond, but he was a fine Bond nonethless. It's interesting that I don't recal very much dissent or dissapointment with him during his tenure on these boards. It seems that since DC Brosnan comes in for a lot of flak. It may be that DC has shown up the flaws with Brosnan, but I still feel that he was better than he ever got the opportunity to be. He was great in TWINE and was even better in the excellent first half of DAD (he cannnot be blamed for the atrocity that is the second half) I particularly liked the point you make about Bonds dismissive/rebellious streak while still staying loyal and determined on the task (the " not our finest hour" scene in GE is a good example) it was there in Connerry (" duty 007, duty" as Bond says to himself while struggling to choose between following the girl or tracking Goldfinger) but Brosnan developed it. I have mentioned before the scene in TND where he pushes over the expensive kit out of sheer badness and just for the hell of it it's a great 'Bondian' moment and Brosnan pulled off several of these during his time.
I appreciated TND better in the cinema, I have only just rekindled how its a good film, and not strictly a good Bond film. TWINE's only good points are Sophie Marceau and Denise Richards- quite superficial reason, yes, but I just couldn't find any else good in there.
yes, i get the point you don't like brosnan
yes, i understand you think DAD was crap
now please, i get the message, so please please please shut your bloody gob.
ps the above statment aint aimed at anyone particularly, im just sick to the back teeth of reading the same old 'i hate brosnan' rants time and time again.
rant over,
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I will say, I'm not insane, and I am a true Bond fan. I like all the films (have a few issues with the final act of Moonraker though), have read all the Ian Fleming books more than once, and like all the Bond actors for different reasons. I just don't find DAD all that bad...
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