Why are other double o agents idiots?
slinger
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I'm watching "The Living Daylights" on the Sci Fi channel right now and in the pre-title sequence of the 3 Double Os, of course Bond is the only to survive. Now I have not examined all the movies so my "theory" could be crap but, is Bond really the only Double O that's worth anything? It seems all other Double Os get killed really easily or turn "bad".
Maybe someone can help me. Has there been another Double O in the series other than Bond, that isn't an idiot?
Right now, as I continue watching TLD, Saunders (another OO right?) is being a total jerk to Bond.
Maybe someone can help me. Has there been another Double O in the series other than Bond, that isn't an idiot?
Right now, as I continue watching TLD, Saunders (another OO right?) is being a total jerk to Bond.
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"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
In The Living Daylights, yes one is actually killed but the other is "taken out" by a paintball during the drill really simply.
Also, I didn't mean idiot to be so harsh.
"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
No, Saunders wasn't a 00 (Sender, the Fleming character on which he's based, wasn't either). Total jerk, maybe, though he does make up with Bond before becoming the sacrificial lamb- hm, a lot of labels for a minor character.
Smiert Spionam.
I wouldn't say 006 was an idiot after watching Goldeneye. Although he had evil intentions, he certainly wasn't stupid.
Not sure about the rest though.
ur right in a sense the other 00's r crap but the blond haired 00 in tld was captured during the war games sequence, 009 was killed by mishca and grishca in octopussy and travelyan turned bad. another 00 survived in twine cos he shot renard but didnt finish him off. and there were 00's in die another day in the title scene.
James Bond- Licence To Kill
true yes. thats probably why bond is assigned the tough missions including going into outer space... it is strange
James Bond- Licence To Kill
Death, capture, etc. is normal and expected for this class of agents (e.g., Bond in CR, " ...I understand double 0s have a very short life expectancy... ") and it seems that success and failure are often determined by chance and not by skill. Bond frequently is unlucky (or stupid?) by getting himself caught, and on the other hand he is lucky to be in the right place and time to discover some important clue. In YOLT, Fleming attributed to Bond the "Nelson Touch" which seems to sum up his winning factor that in review of past missions, was actually a combination of skill and luck; this is also a recurring theme of gambling throughout the books.
Putting expectations and formulas aside, going into a story I think we should assume that the same fate of failure is also possible for Bond, who in turn can be replaced, such as his capture in GF; the laser table incident could have turned out much differently had he not been lucky to overhear the term "Operation Grandslam." In sum, on top of luck, yes I think Bond possesses an "x" factor that enables him to fair better than most other 00 agents, but I don't think that the gap is so great to the point of making him extremely exceptional, nor does it make the other 00's comparatively inept.
Two were'nt so hot, but wasn't it just unlucky with the double 0 who had his rope cut? And to be honest, parachuting in broad daylight into an installation with the SAS (or any half decent unit) aware that there is going to be a raid would really have resulted in all the double 0's being beaten in the exercise, whether there was an assassin lurking there or not.
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I think you just hit the nail on the head. End of discussion
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The other 00s are a plot device, nothing more. (With the exception of Sean Bean's 006, of course.)
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