Forever -- the theme song that should have been of Quantum of Solace?

La Viv

Hi there all,

I'm new to this board but I'm not at all new to the James Bond franchise.

Here's a great song by Eva Almer and Christian Wolf that should have been chosen for (a better) 'Quantum of Solace', but was rejected finally.

Watch it here and you be the judge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dHcgyYUNQw

The video was created by me.

Have fun!

Asp9mm

Infinately better than the tosh we finally got.

La Viv

Asp9mm wrote:

Infinately better than the tosh we finally got.

Yes, couldn't agree more.
When is the next film due? maybe they'll choose Shakira for the opening credits )

Higgins

Asp9mm wrote:

Infinately better than the tosh we finally got.

well, wouldn't be almost ANYTHING better than, what we had to hear in the QoS titles?

La Viv

Bondtoys wrote:

Asp9mm wrote:

Infinately better than the tosh we finally got.

well, wouldn't be almost ANYTHING better than, what we had to hear in the QoS titles?

Yeah, right. If I stood on my head in the shower and sang "Pass The Dutchie" backwards, it'd still sound better.
Maybe they should ask Snoop Dogg to do the gunbarrel theme with his tongue like in "Drop It Like It's Hot".
Yeah, at least we'd have a laugh.

Asp9mm

La Viv wrote:

Asp9mm wrote:

Infinately better than the tosh we finally got.

Yes, couldn't agree more.
When is the next film due? maybe they'll choose Shakira for the opening credits )

I'd take Shakira over 90% of whats out there.

La Viv

I'm willing to take her any time... B-)

Higgins

That's the difference between Asp9mm and me: I've already had her

7289

Very Shirley Bassey inspired.....

Theme-wise, recent Bond films can best be described as "challenged".

Asp9mm

Bondtoys wrote:

That's the difference between Asp9mm and me: I've already had her

That's the difference between Bondtoys and me: I don't confuse my dreams with reality :v 8-) :v

Higgins

... I meant ... in my CD collection. Tss braniac

HowardB

I have to admit, it would have been a far superior selection. The melody is good enough to have been incorporated into Arnold's score. I didn't have a problem with "You know My Name" for CS and Arnold did a real nice job incorporating it into the score. The fact that the QOS theme was not incorporated into the score, tells you all you need to know. Hopefully EON will do a better job selecting the theme song for 23 and find someone who is willing to collaborate with Arnold. In the good old days of Bond scores it was easy.....John Barry wrote a theme song along with a good lyricist, went out and found a vocalist who they felt fit the song best and went on from there. Maybe they need to go back to that process.

Barbel

HowardB wrote:

In the good old days of Bond scores it was easy.....John Barry wrote a theme song along with a good lyricist, went out and found a vocalist who they felt fit the song best and went on from there. Maybe they need to go back to that process.

Ah yes, the good old days.

La Viv

HowardB wrote:

I have to admit, it would have been a far superior selection. The melody is good enough to have been incorporated into Arnold's score. I didn't have a problem with "You know My Name" for CS and Arnold did a real nice job incorporating it into the score. The fact that the QOS theme was not incorporated into the score, tells you all you need to know. Hopefully EON will do a better job selecting the theme song for 23 and find someone who is willing to collaborate with Arnold. In the good old days of Bond scores it was easy.....John Barry wrote a theme song along with a good lyricist, went out and found a vocalist who they felt fit the song best and went on from there. Maybe they need to go back to that process.

Even the babes looked better then.

HowardB

Truth be told, after CS I thought we had returned to the good old days. The theme song was decent, albeit a bit of a departure and it fit Craig's more rough and tumble Bond persona. What really stood out for me was the masterful way Arnold incorporated the melody of "You Know My Name" into the score....given that the Bond theme was not to be used until the very end, not having a decent theme that could be referenced in the score would has been disasterous (which is the great weakness of the QOS score, which has its' moments but is rather pedestrian when compared with the CS score). The CS score is the closest Arnold has come to a Barry quality score, which IMO is high praise. I not an advocate of living in the past, but if EON would just give Arnold some good tools to work with, I believe he can deliver.

mrbond

How did you do the graphics they're great!

John Drake

That was a bloody racket. Can you imagine the damage done to pub singers if they attempted to sing some of the notes she hits there? John Barry is still alive. Why don't Eon ask him back? Was there a falling out somewhere?

Napoleon Plural

Is that rhetorical? They did ask him back for GE I understand, but he wanted £1m to do the theme I heard and they baulked... also he demanded to do the theme song (I'm more sure of this) and they said no, they wanted a mainstream popster to do that, all very well except hardly any of the Turner. Crowe, Garbage tracks have really done the business chartwise and while Madonna did get to no.1 it's widely regarded as awful.

Now Barry is disillusioned with modern Bonds, saying the old ones were classics... he says that when a Bond film comes on telly you want to know if it's an old film, otherwise it's a bit meh (my way of paraphrasing him). So he's not bothered and they have Barry-lite with David Arnold.

John Drake

Napoleon Plural wrote:

Is that rhetorical?

Now Barry is disillusioned with modern Bonds, saying the old ones were classics... he says that when a Bond film comes on telly you want to know if it's an old film, otherwise it's a bit meh (my way of paraphrasing him). So he's not bothered and they have Barry-lite with David Arnold.

Cheers, I wondered why Barry hadn't been around since TLD. It would be nice if Eon gave David Arnold a break for the next one and brought somebody else in.

Thunderpussy

Given the Producers like to tie into the latest trend I think John & Edward from the x factor will do the next Theme.Their lack luster performances would be equal to the QOS theme.

La Viv

mrbond wrote:

How did you do the graphics they're great!

Most graphics were made and/or edited with Photoshop 7.
Animation and video editing with Vegas.

Shatterhand67

WOW! That's a pretty catchy tune. Reminds me of the early Bond Shirley Bassey efforts. It sounds like a 1960's Bond tune. I think Another Way to Die was garbage. Funny that they are now rumored to be considering Susan Boyle because they want more of a throwback to the 60's voice.

Not only do I wish they would have gone with this one for QOS; I hope they strongly consider it for Bond 23.

Shatterhand67

I just listened to "No Good About Goodbye" by David Arnold and Don Black and sung by Shirley Bassey. I have to say although this was excellent as well, I prefer the Eva Almer song.

Sir Miles

I've only just listened to this track. It's okay - tries a bit too hard for me though - very good video mind.

I'm obviously alone in enjoying AWTD - it's one of my favs.

Dmitri Mishkin

Sir Miles wrote:

I'm obviously alone in enjoying AWTD - it's one of my favs.

I agree. We don't need American idol spin off singers to be singing James Bond themes any longer. Vocal Pop singers were good enough for the '60s and '70s films but ever since the Dalton days I've perfected bands and real rock musicians to create the music for Bond's theme. Plus songs like AWTD and YKMN work well for the charts and sell albums.

blame_thatcher

La Viv wrote:

Here's a great song by Eva Almer and Christian Wolf that should have been chosen for (a better) 'Quantum of Solace', but was rejected finally.

Watch it here and you be the judge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dHcgyYUNQw

I don't really care for the song which is actually just another piece of fan-music. These Almer & Wolf characters weren't rejected as EON never heard their song in the first place.

I have heard the Bassey/Arnold song that almost certainly was Arnold's submission given that it features themes from his score and it's vastly superior to the White/Keys turkey. This is the second time a good Arnold song has been rejected in favour of a stinker by artists more likely to make $$$. There isn't a person in the known universe who doesn't agree that kd lang's Surrender should have been the main title song for TND . . . but hey, Sheryl Crow might sell more, right?

La Viv

blame_thatcher wrote:

I don't really care for the song which is actually just another piece of fan-music. These Almer & Wolf characters weren't rejected as EON never heard their song in the first place.

I see envy has brought you here as well. I really pity you.