Craig on Bond 23: 'We start the end of next year.'

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Daniel Craig on Bond 23: 'We start the end of next year.'

http://commanderbond.net/8082/daniel-craig-on-bond-23-we-start-the-end-of-next-year.html

...so we all have at least some idea of the planned production timeline now. :)
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Seems so far far away.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I hate the three-year gap :# But they didn't ask me ;%

    Hopefully, at least the rumour mill should start building momentum this winter...
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  • 00-Agent00-Agent CaliforniaPosts: 453MI6 Agent
    edited October 2009
    That is disappointing. The last time we had a three year gap we got DAD. Let's hope they do better this time. I also wonder if a three year gap means DC will only do three films.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    00-Agent wrote:
    I also wonder if a three gap means DC will only do three films.
    One can only hope. :v
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  • 00-Agent00-Agent CaliforniaPosts: 453MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    00-Agent wrote:
    I also wonder if a three gap means DC will only do three films.
    One can only hope. :v
    I can see that your an optimist. Always finding the good in every situation. :)).
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I predict Craig will do at least four...if only to spite his detractors B-)
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    00-Agent wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    00-Agent wrote:
    I also wonder if a three gap means DC will only do three films.
    One can only hope. :v
    I can see that your an optimist. Always finding the good in every situation. :)).
    :)) I try. :D
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    no worries, im sure the year will fly by, though that may be positive or negetive depend on how you look at it, i just cant believe craig is already preppeing for his third Bond film,time flew since 2006
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    00-Agent wrote:
    That is disappointing. The last time we had a three year gap we got DAD. Let's hope they do better this time. I also wonder if a three year gap means DC will only do three films.


    The only way I can see DC doing four is if they shoot 24 almost immediatley after wrapping 23. I think he will be to old to credible, particularly for his very physical interpretation. He has joked that he'll continue for as long as the knees hold up, well Bond films can be very tough on the knees. I hope that with DC we will see the end of Bonds going on past their sell by date.
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    Qwerty wrote:
    Daniel Craig on Bond 23: 'We start the end of next year.'

    http://commanderbond.net/8082/daniel-craig-on-bond-23-we-start-the-end-of-next-year.html

    ...so we all have at least some idea of the planned production timeline now. :)

    lots of good footage of DC and Jackman available on youtube. One of them even looks like James Bond !:D
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    zaphod wrote:

    lots of good footage of DC and Jackman available on youtube. One of them even looks like James Bond !:D

    :)) :)) :)) Indeed!
  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,253MI6 Agent
    Best news I have heard in a long time. Mind you I was not thrilled when I heard that it would be a three year wait instead of two, thought I can understand Micheal G. Wilson's feeling burned out following two near back to productions.

    Hopefully the story for the new film will involve Guy Haines and his connection to Quantum, also I wonder what the British Parliament thinks about Mr. White escaping from custody in QOS.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    As much as I don't want a 3 year gap - if it's for a good reason - a good script being the most important - (and QoS wasn't nearly as good script wise as CR, although I think the writers strike might have had something to do with it, and the ever impending time scale ) then it's much better to wait - good things come to those that wait, or so I've been told ;)

    And I much prefer a Christmas release, than summer time. It needs it's own space - not amongst the 'summer blockbuster's'
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  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    A three year gap is always a bit of a long wait, but if it means they've got time to sit and think about what they did... ;)
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  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,599MI6 Agent
    I don't care so much about a 3 year gap so long as the quality is good.
    I think the problem the team have is to build an expectation around this "quantum" organisation. I expect they feel they ought to go somewhere with it. Yet they do not yet know where to go. Given they are creating an entirely new "super-criminal-organisation" it is a tricky one and I have some sympathy.
    Funding could also be a problem (economic climate? get the best tax breaks / financing / cheapest labour force etc)
    The 3 year gap didn't hurt TSWLM (actually only a two and a half year gap) or GE (6 and a half yrs) or CR (4YRS) IMO because these were three very well thought out projects that, while not perfect, allowed the audience to re-educate themselves in 007 folklore.
    Interestingly it's generally accepted (though not by all) that the follow ups to those films were not so good. TND particularly got a rough ride from its production team, although the critics and the public were very supportive at the time.
    Odds are that the follow up will not be another DAD. I think Eon has pretty much learnt the lesson there.
    As regards Craig, well, 4 films is about right for a Bond these days and he's be pushing the 50 barrier then anyway.
    I have a sneaky suspicion Bond 23 will be released in 2012, even if the movie is ready for 2011, because it would be a celebratory year.
    Alternatively, I still have a desire for Eon to wrap up Craig/Quantum/Fleming titles by giving us RISICO and then THE HILDEBRAND RARITY in 2011 - 2012.
    But then as somene else pointed out..... they never ask me!
  • bigzilchobigzilcho Toronto, ONPosts: 245MI6 Agent
    Am I the only one who finds these gaps completely incomprehensible?

    What is going on? May I remind everyone that this series began with 4 films ...IN 4 YEARS!!!

    And those films are STILL universally accepted as the cream of the series!

    Everybody and his brother will give me a lecture that today's filmmaking climate cannot accomodate the kind of pace in which those films were created. Fine, thats if you accept the propaganda that movies can only be shot a certain way with a certain pace.

    Ladies and gentlemen of the Bond universe, we are being treated like stupid policemen.

    Am I to understand that previous gaps (TWINE-DAD-3yrs, DAD-CR-4yrs) and now this bit of news is the direct result of the film-makers needing to recharge their creative batteries? Forgive me if I laugh like Baron Samedi.

    What has happened since Cubby died is a very slack and casual approach to the series. What Cubby (and Harry) understood (right down to the sub-atomic particles of their old-school showmen's hearts) was that Bond had become the absolutely undisputed heavyweight champion of movies. They had struck gold.

    What that means, in essence, is that they had created a product SO popular that THEY CANNOT FULFILL THE DEMAND. Once again, for the cheap seats at the back: You CANNOT have enough Bond movies. Give the people what they want!

    I'm crazy enough to question why there HASN"T been a Bond film released every year since 1962. (We should be on Bond #47 this Xmas)

    Throw me in the asylum of Napoleons when I make the claim that if there is one series which has earned the right to film back-to-back-to back (a la LOTR) then it has to be BOND.

    Look everyone, there is a reason why those early movies still resonate and thrill every generation that followed. Critical analysis is all well and good, but never forget those films were made fast and under pressure. In the heat of the moment with no time for second-guessing.

    Terence Young, Peter Hunt, John Barry,Maurice Binder , Ken Adam and a lean, mean Connery were forced by deadline to deliver the goods. Their imagination was under the gun...and look at the results! And lets not even talk about Fleming's annual output.

    Purvis and Wade, on the other hand, are allowed the...luxury?...to sit back and contemplate the stars of the Bondian universe and the result is DAD? Give me a break.

    Blofeld was never Bond's major nemesis. That honor goes to guys like Purvis and Wade who have...too...much...time.

    Cubby and Harry understood that the series should be made with a Bondian type of efficiency. Keep it lean, mean and moving like a freight train. When the two year gap began with YOLT there was a Bond film every two years until 1989. Thats 12 in 22 years! At one time the series was like clockwork...now it feels like the clock is malfunctioning.

    Standing on a soap-box raving about more movies is not realistic, I understand that. Of course times have changed. But should Bond?

    My two cents is worth exactly that, so what am I griping about? Just this: Cubby and Harry set the two-year pattern for three decades and never failed to deliver. Babs and Michael G. claim to be exhausted after every recent movie. Well...thats not good enough.

    3 movies in a decade. How tired can they be?



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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    bigzilcho wrote:
    3 movies in a decade. How tired can they be?
    Great question. :# A brilliant post as usual BTW. :D
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited October 2009
    I'm with you, BZ. The gaps are too long.

    And, as a writer who's about to put out the first of (hopefully) a series of novels, Fleming's machine-like production of a title a year is my personal goal...but I'm liable to take a bit longer, at least at first. Fleming didn't work fifty hours a week in a day job :# ...And I don't have a retreat in Jamaica where I can spend three solid months in front of my keyboard :#
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  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,599MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    bigzilcho wrote:
    3 movies in a decade. How tired can they be?
    Great question. :# A brilliant post as usual BTW. :D

    bigzilcho,
    great post
    makes me want to edit mine into oblivion!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Remember the first four films didn't need to be written, they stuck very close to Flemings original books, the films therefore were prety much already written, locations sorted etc.
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  • bigzilchobigzilcho Toronto, ONPosts: 245MI6 Agent
    Sorry Asp9mm, your point does not hold water. CR took 4 years to make and besides, just because a script is close to the source material does not make them "pretty much already written". Movies are NEVER that easily put together.

    Fleming took 3 months to write a book EVERY year. Granted this is Fleming, but Purvis/Wade and co. must be listening to Louis Armstrong singing "We Have All The Time In The World' when they sit back and ponder a script.

    A liitle urgency goes a long way in Bond's world.

    And thanks for the tip of the hat to everyone else.


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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Surely a Bond movie a year - especially in this 'movie madness' climate would water down what Bond has become - something special, new and exciting. Unlike say, The Tolkien 'once a year Christmas release' - or the Harry Potter franchise, (in which the books are all direct sequels of each other, so it makes perfect sense to shoot back to back movies, not to mention the quickly ageing characters, where they have to film these movies as quickly as they can....) to think that we would be on Bond number 47 (if a yearly movie was made) we would have to see recycled stories.... :#

    Plus the fact that the main character has changed so many times, 2 or 3 yearly gaps do sort of make sense {:)

    When a Bond movie is released now, I think the hype and anticipation probably sees MORE people go and see it, rather than a loyal fan base that would obviously go and see any Bond movie, even if released twice a year.

    I know I go against the grain here - but well, I would prefer a longer wait between movies - like with anything, too much of a good thing, and you could get tired of it....
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  • little nellylittle nelly London, EnglandPosts: 152MI6 Agent
    bigzilcho wrote:
    Am I the only one who finds these gaps completely incomprehensible?

    What is going on? May I remind everyone that this series began with 4 films ...IN 4 YEARS!!!

    And those films are STILL universally accepted as the cream of the series!

    Everybody and his brother will give me a lecture that today's filmmaking climate cannot accomodate the kind of pace in which those films were created. Fine, thats if you accept the propaganda that movies can only be shot a certain way with a certain pace.

    Ladies and gentlemen of the Bond universe, we are being treated like stupid policemen.

    Am I to understand that previous gaps (TWINE-DAD-3yrs, DAD-CR-4yrs) and now this bit of news is the direct result of the film-makers needing to recharge their creative batteries? Forgive me if I laugh like Baron Samedi.

    What has happened since Cubby died is a very slack and casual approach to the series. What Cubby (and Harry) understood (right down to the sub-atomic particles of their old-school showmen's hearts) was that Bond had become the absolutely undisputed heavyweight champion of movies. They had struck gold.

    What that means, in essence, is that they had created a product SO popular that THEY CANNOT FULFILL THE DEMAND. Once again, for the cheap seats at the back: You CANNOT have enough Bond movies. Give the people what they want!

    I'm crazy enough to question why there HASN"T been a Bond film released every year since 1962. (We should be on Bond #47 this Xmas)

    Throw me in the asylum of Napoleons when I make the claim that if there is one series which has earned the right to film back-to-back-to back (a la LOTR) then it has to be BOND.

    Look everyone, there is a reason why those early movies still resonate and thrill every generation that followed. Critical analysis is all well and good, but never forget those films were made fast and under pressure. In the heat of the moment with no time for second-guessing.

    Terence Young, Peter Hunt, John Barry,Maurice Binder , Ken Adam and a lean, mean Connery were forced by deadline to deliver the goods. Their imagination was under the gun...and look at the results! And lets not even talk about Fleming's annual output.

    Purvis and Wade, on the other hand, are allowed the...luxury?...to sit back and contemplate the stars of the Bondian universe and the result is DAD? Give me a break.

    Blofeld was never Bond's major nemesis. That honor goes to guys like Purvis and Wade who have...too...much...time.

    Cubby and Harry understood that the series should be made with a Bondian type of efficiency. Keep it lean, mean and moving like a freight train. When the two year gap began with YOLT there was a Bond film every two years until 1989. Thats 12 in 22 years! At one time the series was like clockwork...now it feels like the clock is malfunctioning.

    Standing on a soap-box raving about more movies is not realistic, I understand that. Of course times have changed. But should Bond?

    My two cents is worth exactly that, so what am I griping about? Just this: Cubby and Harry set the two-year pattern for three decades and never failed to deliver. Babs and Michael G. claim to be exhausted after every recent movie. Well...thats not good enough.

    3 movies in a decade. How tired can they be?



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    "Never on the firm's time, sir."


    Bravo!
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    edited October 2009
    bigzilcho wrote:
    Sorry Asp9mm, your point does not hold water. CR took 4 years to make and besides, just because a script is close to the source material does not make them "pretty much already written". Movies are NEVER that easily put together.

    Fleming took 3 months to write a book EVERY year. Granted this is Fleming, but Purvis/Wade and co. must be listening to Louis Armstrong singing "We Have All The Time In The World' when they sit back and ponder a script.

    Casino Royale was far removed from the book in regards to dialogue and content. Sure, movies are not that easily put together, but the script is vastly easier put together when you are sticking to the original source material. That and the era in which they were made, it was much easier. There is no way they could put together a Bond film every year now, especially from scratch with no base material, things are far too complicated. They don't start working on he next film until well after the current one is screened. In the Sixties, work had already begun on the next Bond prior to the currrent film being aired, the end titles prove that. This was down to the bulk of the script etc already being out there in Flemings work. It was only after they started to deviate from the novels that the two year gap started to creep in.

    Fleming might have taken three months to write the books, but they were already written and published by years before they were turned into scripts.

    Not only that but Craig has other commitments and projects, Connery was not involved in a great deal between Bonds.
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    I don't see why it can't be done every two years. That gives the Bond actor a chance to act in other productions and gives the film company time to do special edition dvds/bluerays and other comapanies time to produce various computer games and merchandise. Not to mention tv companies to premiere, and terrestial tv companies to show the film a couple of years down the line. I think a two year gap gives the viewer time to appreciate the film and buy the dvds on release a year later and time to look forward to the next installment. I like the two year gap, personally. I think more than that is just too much, and every year would see a rushed job on editing, and also feel like a tv series back for the next season. I mean, who looks forward to 24 anymore?
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Two years would be ideal. It's really disapointing to have to wait another two years from now :o I might be dead by then.
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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Two years would be ideal. It's really disapointing to have to wait another two years from now :o I might be dead by then.

    glass half full then ;) :))
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  • bigzilchobigzilcho Toronto, ONPosts: 245MI6 Agent
    Good points, Asp9mm. No question it helps if you have the original source to work from but, once again, we agree to disagree.

    Of course, the films in the sixties overlapped in terms of preperation. THAT's the way it should be. And when Fleming's books were already filmed did that mean that TSWLM, for instance, or OP should take longer because they were original? Well, no...because they still came out every two years.

    Your focus on the fact that the first films in the series had the advantage of having blueprints is spot-on but THAT is not the reason they were more prolific then. They just WANTED to be more prolific.

    And your point about Craig's other projects being a hindrance is right but then which Bond HASN't made other films during their Bond tenure?

    Connery for instance made Woman of Straw(1964)/Marnie (1964)/The Hill (1965)/A Fine Madness(1966) during his tenure...a very impressive line-up.

    And count how many films Roger made between 1973 and 1985.

    Things today are more "complicated" as you say, but not to the degree that we HAVE to have 3/4 year gaps between films. Sorry, that's the kind of excuse that Cubby and Harry would NEVER have tolerated.

    And neither should Bond-fans.


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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Have to agree with Bigzilcho. The foundation of Bond came out like four beautiful shots from a PPK.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Alex wrote:
    Have to agree with Bigzilcho. The foundation of Bond came out like four beautiful shots from a PPK.

    yes, but yearly Bonds to date surely would be more tumultuous, rather like rapid fire from an Uzi.....
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