Apologies if its frowned upon, as a non-JB afficionado, but my kid sister has tasked me with the sale of her book collection, which includes the Bentley edition of Devil May Care. Unfortunately, a flat deposit does rather trump books that never come out of their box, let alone get onto a shelf.
Apologies, I wasn't familiar with the notion that there were two versions.
As my sister works for Penguin UK, its the UK version of the book. The first picture is merely a stock picture that I found, to save me having to unbox the whole thing. The three following pictures are that of the book itself.
Hope that clears things up.
Out of interest, whats the difference between the US and the UK versions? Spelling aside..
We have some really nice items on eBay at the moment including trading cards, a multi-signed item featuring the cast and crew of Octopussy, dual-signed items and some original production notepaper signed by Roger Moore.
For someone to repaint an old Gilbert DB5 (clearly the chassis is hand-brushed) isn't at all unusual but looking closely at the pics, I'm convinced the teal is a factory finish ... not a Gilbert or ACS factory necessarily, but some manufacturer: There's no hint of an original silver or black where the paint is scraped (goes direct to bear metal), no overspray on the window trims (would a kid bother to remove and replace?), etc.
Since the listing is in India, wondering if the tooling could possibly have wound-up there or some other Third World spot? If anyone has seen some of the recent tin work coming from India, the mirrors make sense ...
no mention of them being a replica, I find this very misleading
I saw this listing earlier on this week and took it from the description that they were original props or at best original B&G chips of the same manufacture. I know they aren't, but those who don't have the information a select few here have will be fooled by that listing. That's quite naughty as the wording is very ambiguous and allude to them being actually screen used with no mention of replica anywhere. The asking price certainly alludes to them being genuine B&G...
Le Chiffre's chips as used in the private Casino Royale Hold 'Em poker game aboard his yacht.
Four varieties of chips and one type of plaque were used on screen in Casino Royale. Chips were made for Le Chiffre's yacht (Le Chiffre is given a 36-hour window for Operation Ellipsis on his yacht moored off Paradise Island) also made by B&G: http://www.scifihobby.com/products/jamesbond/complete/
Please click on "See other items" on eBay to see all my listings at once. I used "Authentic Prop" in the title of actual props and "Props" in the replica props listings.
Do you believe the words "quite naughty" are appropriate for chips that cost $10 U.S. each (and include a Best Offer opportunity to pay less than $10 per chip)? I paid an average of $150 for my real Isthmus City chips. I've also paid above $10 for pretty B&G's not from Bond films.
Having said that, I think your comments may just be spot on, my friends, that someone could get misled! I ended this listing entirely.
Egads! I did a search on "James Bond Prop" on eBay.com this morning and it seems almost every seller is doing "replica prop" and not just "prop" these days. I revised all my replica items accordingly. My apologies to all.
thanks for that. That most of the (amateur) sellers on ebay are using the term (props) incorrectly does not mean that we good guys (and some of them pretty high-profilic) should do the same
It's simply wrong.
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I know it. I was just in a stage show this weekend. A "prop" means to hold something up--or in the theatre or film, a replica of something real. "Replica prop" is redundant and ironically means here, "a replica of a replica" where "genuine" or "authentic" prop means an actual fake!
What gets me is some poor seller has to list a replica prop when it's, say, a nice Bond knife. It's absolutely a real metal knife and not a fake knife made of plastic! What a world.
Maybe we should add to our listings "Authentic COA" so they know if that is a replica too.
Regardless, I'm sort of excited. "Replica prop" will help in the future avoid those "Was this really used on screen?" questions from novice collectors. "Yes! [I'm dying to reply] Yes, indeed. This watch was actually worn by Sean Connery in You Only Live Twice, which is why I started the bidding at just $20 U.S."
It is all about being genuine about what you are selling, The chips were listed as used ?
And can you tell me what you mean by this Matt " These poker chips are in excellent condition and have never been cleaned or polished with mineral oil" ?
You see to me this gives the illusion that these chips have some age to them.
I bought an 'original bond item' on ebay recently only to find it wasn't exactly what I was expecting. The item wasn't described incorrectly, but it was IMO a bit vague, the picture also missed out some tell tale details.
If an item is that good, it'll sell itself, just be clear about what it is and don't leave any room for assumptions, that's my advice to anyone selling on ebay.
You are certainly correct, MG. My 100% positive rating has been earned by dint of integrity, sometimes by refunding or discounting to buyers even when I believed they were off base.
The chips were used by me for cosplay and for gaming. Some of the 60 chips have almost impossible to see marks on them because I've been rough with them (no off color jokes about butt plugs, please).
"These poker chips are in excellent condition and have never been cleaned or polished with mineral oil" is because I've rubbed more than half of my Bond chips and plaques (from 11 different Bond films) in mineral oil. It makes the colors more lustrous on all colors of chips, even dark and dusky ones in my opinion. Some cannot handle the mineral oil or cleaning (probably death to a TWINE chip, right--those cheap decals would come right off?). I've cleaned then polished all my Skyfall casino chips and I'd therefore call them "used" if I sold them, for example, even though we all think of them as new since they are but a few months old.
I've been really "into" Bond casino chips and plaques for about a year's time and I've seen on chip forums that people want to know if chips have been used for gaming, scrubbed and/or polished. That's the kind of honest disclosure you're asking from me and others, right?
Not trying to be a wise guy here. I consider myself a chip and plaque newbie and some of the fellows on this forum have been really helping me understand about this interesting industry.
Personally, being a chip collector also but only $1 Valley chips (Can't afford to go higher), I would only lightly clean a heavily soiled chip with soapy water and a soft brush but never with any kind of abrasive. I would also never consider oiling a chip. This is normally done by 'collectors' trying to get the chips they are selling to look better than they really in photographs. Kan is also a long time collector of chips and it would be good to get his take on this.
I think I mentioned to Kan I oiled some stuff--I did it not based on sales but after hearing about it on chip forums for people holding, not selling chips. (I think it would be easier to Photoshop images if you wanted to trick someone!)
I experimented with a few cheap chips first. It makes any chip that is hardy enough to handle it look spectacular. It is certainly a small amount of oil that is used. Two ounces of oil are enough for 10,000 chips!
It worked great with the Skyfall chips. People seem to dislike them on sight online but in person I think they look groovy. The images really get a golden glow after oiling, too...
"A property, commonly shortened to prop (plural: props), is an object used on stage or on screen by actors during a performance or screen production"
Yes, sir, but think about it. You use a "prop gun" on stage or in film when you don't want anyone shot. You give extras "prop casino plaques" when you don't want them stolen. I got thrown about so much in my last show run, we broke glassware on the set several times--so we always used the cheap stuff even though my set was of a fancy CEO's office. Just to keep costs down, most props in the theatre are faked items. I'm not sure how many movie items are faked, but I think it would be a lot by percentage!
When I see on eBay "Lord of the Rings Sword" I think it is a sword handcrafted for the production. When I see "Lord of the Rings Prop Sword" I think it's a replica sword. But we have to be careful as buyers and sellers both!
Just to 'chip in' my two cents, if something is described as a 'prop' OR 'original prop' I take it as being a proper, made-for-screen/stage authentic production made/issued piece of stage/screen PROPerty.
If however something is described as a 'replica prop' I assume its a copy of a prop and definitely NOT the genuine article.
I, for instance, make screen accurate prop replicas.
I also have in my collection a couple of original props.
It's not the word 'prop' that differentiates between the real McCoy or a copy, it's words like 'original' and 'replica'.
I think that is quite right and if someone looked at all my listings, they'd see Authentic Prop and Prop but could still be confused, plus they might not look at all my listings! So I changed accordingly... I still think "replica prop" is kind of goofy but I'm used to providing events and friends's parties with "Bond props" like standees or cutouts. But are they replica cutouts or "real" cutouts? And if I acquired a standee from a theatre and it was made by MGM/Sony, isn't it a real prop though it is a replica of Moore? Is it really Roger Moore? Is it a prop?
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"Replica prop" it is. Sigh. I'm still planning to invite friends to see the "props and posters and books" in my house regardless that some are real and some are replicas!
If a particular item can be seen in a certain movie = prop *
If a particular item looks like an item that can be seen in a movie = prop replica
* I personally even draw the line and don't call props which have been made for/ acquired by the production company for a certain production prop when they are not the ones from a particular scene.
Others differentiate into " screen seen props" and " production used props" ( props rhat basically never made it onto the movie screen) - a large price difference and much room to cheat imo.
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think that is quite right and if someone looked at all my listings, they'd see Authentic Prop and Prop but could still be confused, plus they might not look at all my listings! So I changed accordingly... I still think "replica prop" is kind of goofy but I'm used to providing events and friends's parties with "Bond props" like standees or cutouts. But are they replica cutouts or "real" cutouts? And if I acquired a standee from a theatre and it was made by MGM/Sony, isn't it a real prop though it is a replica of Moore? Is it really Roger Moore? Is it a prop?
Head... exploding... must... defibrillate. Help me, Q!
"Replica prop" it is. Sigh. I'm still planning to invite friends to see the "props and posters and books" in my house regardless that some are real and some are replicas!
Standees or cutouts are exactly that, they're not props.
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Thx BT I forgive all your previous transgressions....
Rip off - wow...
Apologies if its frowned upon, as a non-JB afficionado, but my kid sister has tasked me with the sale of her book collection, which includes the Bentley edition of Devil May Care. Unfortunately, a flat deposit does rather trump books that never come out of their box, let alone get onto a shelf.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-Devil-May-Care-by-Sebastian-Faulks-Bentley-Edition-73-of-300-/321170507563?pt=Antiquarian_Books_UK&hash=item4ac741072b#ht_546wt_970
Thanks chaps
There are two versions of the book shown in the listing pics. Wonder which one it is.
Apologies, I wasn't familiar with the notion that there were two versions.
As my sister works for Penguin UK, its the UK version of the book. The first picture is merely a stock picture that I found, to save me having to unbox the whole thing. The three following pictures are that of the book itself.
Hope that clears things up.
Out of interest, whats the difference between the US and the UK versions? Spelling aside..
Hey, kewee,
which transgressions from my long list are you talking about?
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For someone to repaint an old Gilbert DB5 (clearly the chassis is hand-brushed) isn't at all unusual but looking closely at the pics, I'm convinced the teal is a factory finish ... not a Gilbert or ACS factory necessarily, but some manufacturer: There's no hint of an original silver or black where the paint is scraped (goes direct to bear metal), no overspray on the window trims (would a kid bother to remove and replace?), etc.
Since the listing is in India, wondering if the tooling could possibly have wound-up there or some other Third World spot? If anyone has seen some of the recent tin work coming from India, the mirrors make sense ...
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Ultra-rare paperbacks, first editions, leather-bound editions, original and replica props and too many items to list here.
Can you tell me where the original props are on your listing Matt ?
Now if I was stupid I would take the Le Chiffre chips here as being original props, especially as you link to the real ones in the listing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Bond-Casino-Royale-Props-60-Le-Chiffre-Poker-Chips-/231028950960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ca6607b0
no mention of them being a replica, I find this very misleading
I saw this listing earlier on this week and took it from the description that they were original props or at best original B&G chips of the same manufacture. I know they aren't, but those who don't have the information a select few here have will be fooled by that listing. That's quite naughty as the wording is very ambiguous and allude to them being actually screen used with no mention of replica anywhere. The asking price certainly alludes to them being genuine B&G...
Le Chiffre's chips as used in the private Casino Royale Hold 'Em poker game aboard his yacht.
Four varieties of chips and one type of plaque were used on screen in Casino Royale. Chips were made for Le Chiffre's yacht (Le Chiffre is given a 36-hour window for Operation Ellipsis on his yacht moored off Paradise Island) also made by B&G: http://www.scifihobby.com/products/jamesbond/complete/
Please click on "See other items" on eBay to see all my listings at once. I used "Authentic Prop" in the title of actual props and "Props" in the replica props listings.
Do you believe the words "quite naughty" are appropriate for chips that cost $10 U.S. each (and include a Best Offer opportunity to pay less than $10 per chip)? I paid an average of $150 for my real Isthmus City chips. I've also paid above $10 for pretty B&G's not from Bond films.
Having said that, I think your comments may just be spot on, my friends, that someone could get misled! I ended this listing entirely.
Thank you.
thanks for that. That most of the (amateur) sellers on ebay are using the term (props) incorrectly does not mean that we good guys (and some of them pretty high-profilic) should do the same
It's simply wrong.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
What gets me is some poor seller has to list a replica prop when it's, say, a nice Bond knife. It's absolutely a real metal knife and not a fake knife made of plastic! What a world.
Maybe we should add to our listings "Authentic COA" so they know if that is a replica too.
Regardless, I'm sort of excited. "Replica prop" will help in the future avoid those "Was this really used on screen?" questions from novice collectors. "Yes! [I'm dying to reply] Yes, indeed. This watch was actually worn by Sean Connery in You Only Live Twice, which is why I started the bidding at just $20 U.S."
"A property, commonly shortened to prop (plural: props), is an object used on stage or on screen by actors during a performance or screen production"
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
And can you tell me what you mean by this Matt " These poker chips are in excellent condition and have never been cleaned or polished with mineral oil" ?
You see to me this gives the illusion that these chips have some age to them.
I bought an 'original bond item' on ebay recently only to find it wasn't exactly what I was expecting. The item wasn't described incorrectly, but it was IMO a bit vague, the picture also missed out some tell tale details.
If an item is that good, it'll sell itself, just be clear about what it is and don't leave any room for assumptions, that's my advice to anyone selling on ebay.
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The chips were used by me for cosplay and for gaming. Some of the 60 chips have almost impossible to see marks on them because I've been rough with them (no off color jokes about butt plugs, please).
"These poker chips are in excellent condition and have never been cleaned or polished with mineral oil" is because I've rubbed more than half of my Bond chips and plaques (from 11 different Bond films) in mineral oil. It makes the colors more lustrous on all colors of chips, even dark and dusky ones in my opinion. Some cannot handle the mineral oil or cleaning (probably death to a TWINE chip, right--those cheap decals would come right off?). I've cleaned then polished all my Skyfall casino chips and I'd therefore call them "used" if I sold them, for example, even though we all think of them as new since they are but a few months old.
I've been really "into" Bond casino chips and plaques for about a year's time and I've seen on chip forums that people want to know if chips have been used for gaming, scrubbed and/or polished. That's the kind of honest disclosure you're asking from me and others, right?
Not trying to be a wise guy here. I consider myself a chip and plaque newbie and some of the fellows on this forum have been really helping me understand about this interesting industry.
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I experimented with a few cheap chips first. It makes any chip that is hardy enough to handle it look spectacular. It is certainly a small amount of oil that is used. Two ounces of oil are enough for 10,000 chips!
It worked great with the Skyfall chips. People seem to dislike them on sight online but in person I think they look groovy. The images really get a golden glow after oiling, too...
Yes, sir, but think about it. You use a "prop gun" on stage or in film when you don't want anyone shot. You give extras "prop casino plaques" when you don't want them stolen. I got thrown about so much in my last show run, we broke glassware on the set several times--so we always used the cheap stuff even though my set was of a fancy CEO's office. Just to keep costs down, most props in the theatre are faked items. I'm not sure how many movie items are faked, but I think it would be a lot by percentage!
When I see on eBay "Lord of the Rings Sword" I think it is a sword handcrafted for the production. When I see "Lord of the Rings Prop Sword" I think it's a replica sword. But we have to be careful as buyers and sellers both!
If however something is described as a 'replica prop' I assume its a copy of a prop and definitely NOT the genuine article.
I, for instance, make screen accurate prop replicas.
I also have in my collection a couple of original props.
It's not the word 'prop' that differentiates between the real McCoy or a copy, it's words like 'original' and 'replica'.
MG
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"Replica prop" it is. Sigh. I'm still planning to invite friends to see the "props and posters and books" in my house regardless that some are real and some are replicas!
If a particular item can be seen in a certain movie = prop *
If a particular item looks like an item that can be seen in a movie = prop replica
* I personally even draw the line and don't call props which have been made for/ acquired by the production company for a certain production prop when they are not the ones from a particular scene.
Others differentiate into " screen seen props" and " production used props" ( props rhat basically never made it onto the movie screen) - a large price difference and much room to cheat imo.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Standees or cutouts are exactly that, they're not props.
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