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  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    edited February 2016
    I'm far from an expert but this looks duff to me - Lazenby's auto looks wrong as does Moore's, from the bit that is visible...

    I hadn't even looked at those; yes, fake. It was the fake Dalton that first caught my eye.
    Just realizing it's not the original poster, either.
    Odd because Heroes & Legends have a decent reputation.

    ADDENDUM:
    On being informed of the fake, Cooper Owen replied thus: "Thank you for your comment."
    On the other hand, the listing is now gone.
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    Guys, can I have your input into the authenticity of these Bond items and potential value of the collection. Many thanks. Not all the Bond items are from Bond. If you want any further info on history/precedence etc., please don't hesitate to PM me as I may miss replies. I've included also some In-Person autographs as well.

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    Many Thanks
    Robin
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    edited December 2014
    It's a drag some folks -- like Jeroen Krabbe -- don't have particularly distinctive signatures; always a bit of a let down when someone just prints their name.
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    Its a beautiful sig, PoorMansJB.
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    bondbob wrote:
    Its a beautiful sig, PoorMansJB.

    I've had him sign some pieces for me and happy to have them; more that I just would have expected him to have a bolder, cursive signature.
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    I don't know much about Jeroen's signature. Its one of my favourite autographs, though. Its so clear. George Lazenby is another plus in my collection. What did you think of the photos I posted?
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    bondbob wrote:
    I don't know much about Jeroen's signature. Its one of my favourite autographs, though. Its so clear. George Lazenby is another plus in my collection. What did you think of the photos I posted?

    Wish I had Sakata in my collection!
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    bondbob wrote:
    I don't know much about Jeroen's signature. Its one of my favourite autographs, though. Its so clear. George Lazenby is another plus in my collection. What did you think of the photos I posted?

    Wish I had Sakata in my collection!

    Yeah it's a shame it's not signed Harold Sakata, it's signed with his wrestling name, but still a wonderful piece. I'd love some of the even rarer ones but it would be difficult to get an autograph like that, such as Robert Shaw etc.
  • BondFanSince77BondFanSince77 FinlandPosts: 61MI6 Agent
    bondbob wrote:
    Guys, can I have your input into the authenticity of these Bond items and potential value of the collection. Many thanks. Not all the Bond items are from Bond. If you want any further info on history/precedence etc., please don't hesitate to PM me as I may miss replies. I've included also some In-Person autographs as well.


    Many Thanks
    Robin



    My opinion is that Connery, Dalton, Brosnan and Krabbé are fakes.
    Have you bought Dalton and Krabbé from Bondcollectibles?
    Those looks like it.. well made fakes.
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    bondbob wrote:
    Guys, can I have your input into the authenticity of these Bond items and potential value of the collection. Many thanks. Not all the Bond items are from Bond. If you want any further info on history/precedence etc., please don't hesitate to PM me as I may miss replies. I've included also some In-Person autographs as well.


    Many Thanks
    Robin



    My opinion is that Connery, Dalton, Brosnan and Krabbé are fakes.
    Have you bought Dalton and Krabbé from Bondcollectibles?
    Those looks like it.. well made fakes.

    Sean Connery was brought from Frasers of London. I've researched Connery's signature and it looks very much like other examples I've seen online so there's a possibility this could be a genuine autograph.

    Timothy Dalton was brought through Bond Collectibles and they are said to have a somewhat dubious reputation, though that is opinion and not necessarily fact. There is debate on this signature whether it is real or fake.

    Pierce Brosnan was brought through a dealer in the UK who had a good reputation before the owner retired and his stock was brought by Autografica. Also, the problem with Brosnan's signature is that it changed so much that its often hard to authenticate his signature.

    Jeroen Krabbe was brought through Bond Stars and they are 100% legit, as far as I know, so I'm going to go on authority that the Krabbe signature is genuine, as well. All other examples I've seen seem to point to the fact that the signature is real, as well.

    Thanks for your input BondFanSince77. You can never be 100% about any signature, because what might be deemed real could be fake and what might be deemed fake, could be real, so you'll never truly know. Your help is appreciated.

    Best,
    Robin
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    Bondbob,

    The problem with Sean Connery is that his signature varied greatly throughout his career, it changed drastically in slant and the way that the "onnery" is written, the tell tale signs are usually the "Sean", which hasn't changed too much over the years and the "C".
    Unfortunately, he is one of the most faked autographs in the world, so the only way to be 100% certain is to get him in person or on a vintage piece. From my perspective, yours looks okay, Fraser's is a reputable dealer, but even so, I am not 100% certain on it.

    The Dalton is a doubt, anything from Bondcollectibles are a serious doubt as in recent years they have flooded the market with fakes of very rare names like Rik Van Nutter, John Kitzmiller, Michael Gothard, Anthony Dawson etc...
    I personally would not trust a single thing that comes from them as they are not backed up by any recognised autograph authority.

    The Pierce is either 1) an extremely sloppy and quick autograph where he was in a rush or was distracted/shoved half way through signing, or its a fake.
    In truth, he signs A LOT of autographs, so getting your own, won't be that hard. But personally, I am not 100% certain of it. As you say, he is another who's signature has changed a lot over the years.

    Jeroen Krabbe is absolutely fine and the real deal, especially if it came from Bondstars, as they are his official signing agents.

    Hope this helps -{

    *To protect AJB007.co.uk, the views expressed above are solely the opinion of 007_autographcollector and do not represent the thoughts or opinion of www.ajb007.co.uk in any way.*

    007 Autograph Collector,

    Thank you for getting back to me on this matter - its nice to know there's a good bunch of people here who actually care about other people's memorabilia, which is fantastic.

    Yeah, I totally agree with your perspective on Sean Connery - as far as I can see it, Fraser's is one of the most reputable auction houses in the world and having researched Connery's signature on the internet, especially on what appears to be index cards, there's a good chance - although I agree, you can't be 100% on any item you buy, no matter how good it actually looks, which is why I always abide by the golden rule - lifetime guarantee and receipt, you can't go wrong with that. Anything else and you're in real trouble.

    Thankfully, I only bought one item from Bond Collectibles. I say thankfully for the reasons you stipulate, as there has been reason to suggest they aren't 100% reputable. The Dalton is going to be subjective to doubt for this very reason - I think there could be a chance it could be genuine, as I wouldn't write it off fully as Bond Collectibles have been known to hand out genuine items to collectors and also, alleged fakes too.

    The Brosnan has always been a concern to me, too. I've only seen one other example online which even closely resembles it, but the problem is, Brosnan's sig is so tough to authenticate and since he had many variations of his signature, its quite possible it could be the real thing. The dealer I bought it from had a good reputation, so perhaps it might have been the dealer got stung as happens with reputable dealers. No dealer is 100% irrefutable and will get fakes thrust upon them from time to time.

    I've been stung quite badly in this hobby already and its cost me a LOT of time and effort, some items I won't be able to claim my money back for since they aren't established companies but I've become a little better collecting items as I've gone through either IP companies or reputable dealers and even if I do get landed with a dud now, I go by the rule of getting a lifetime guarantee and a receipt - at least then I can get my money back. I'm not the only one whose ever got stung. There's probably people who have made a large purchase in life, possibly in the thousands/millions etc. and its turned out to be a dud so I don't think I should feel unhappy.

    The good news out of all of this is that the vast majority of the items I have posted are authentic, or so it would appear, so that's something at least. The Harold Sakata/Tosh Togo one especially and that's my rarest Bond I have - its a shame he didn't sign it Harold but even so, his wrestling one is equally as tough and its a nice piece.

    007 Autograph Collector, many thanks for your input - it is MUCH appreciated! I'd like to go on record and also say what is said above is my opinion and doesn't reflect the opinion of ajb007 in regards to certain elements mentioned in the comments.
  • BondFanSince77BondFanSince77 FinlandPosts: 61MI6 Agent
    Hi Bondbob,

    As 007_Autographcollector said Connery is one of the most faked autographs in the world and 99,9% of those autographs you have seen are fakes.
    I will add an authentic signature of Sir Connery so you can compare it to other on market.
    He signed this when He published Being a Scott.
    I have met Sir Connery three times and once, he said to a fan who was requesting an autograph from him: " I don't write any autographs because I don't get money of it".
    Note! It does not matter is it certified by DNA/PSA or any other certification company there is a lot of fakes in those too.
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    The reason why I doubted Brosnan was that his autograph is not usually so discontinuous.
    Even he's busy while signing his first name is written continuously.
    Here two of his autographs I have got in person.
    The 1st one is signed for my goddaughter Heidi in late 90's and the other one 2009 or 2010 in Paris.



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    If Krabbé has been bought from Bondstars, then it is 100% authentic, because I know those guys well.
    And now when I took a closer look of your Krabbé I will change my opinion of it.
    Take a look at the letter N in JeroeN and compare it to mine..
    Those are similar.
    Here is my Krabbé signed photo..



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    I have been collecting Bond autographs since 1997 and if anyone of you doubts the authenticity of the signature, please
    do not hesitate to contact me. I'm ready to tell my opinion of it.. and I think that 007_Autographcollector will do the same.
  • bondbobbondbob Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    Hi Bondbob,

    As 007_Autographcollector said Connery is one of the most faked autographs in the world and 99,9% of those autographs you have seen are fakes.
    I will add an authentic signature of Sir Connery so you can compare it to other on market.
    He signed this when He published Being a Scott.
    I have met Sir Connery three times and once, he said to a fan who was requesting an autograph from him: " I don't write any autographs because I don't get money of it".
    Note! It does not matter is it certified by DNA/PSA or any other certification company there is a lot of fakes in those too.
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    Hiya - yeah I'm very aware that Sean Connery is a very much forged signature - I've compared it to other known specimens/images on the Internet and it does look similar to one or two of those, so there's a chance it could be genuine. Don't trust PSA/DNA - doesn't prove anything, but even then, the most likely items to be genuine can sometimes fool even the best experts. I think its poor of Sean Connery to not just sign for the fans, since they're the ones who have supported him throughout his career - money shouldn't come into it, especially when out and about. Okay, fair enough at conventions, but out and about? Not impressed.

    The reason why I doubted Brosnan was that his autograph is not usually so discontinuous.
    Even he's busy while signing his first name is written continuously.
    Here two of his autographs I have got in person.
    The 1st one is signed for my goddaughter Heidi in late 90's and the other one 2009 or 2010 in Paris.

    Yeah I've reason to doubt the Brosnan when looking at it but again, it could be just one of those very one of a type autographs in
    that it could just be an exception to the rule.... or it could be false. I bought it from a reputable dealer and even they get stung from time to time - no dealer is infallible except IP companies who are in total control of what is being signed and whose receiving the said signatures etc. Therefore, I'm not 100% convinced by this Brosnan, either.




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    If Krabbé has been bought from Bondstars, then it is 100% authentic, because I know those guys well.
    And now when I took a closer look of your Krabbé I will change my opinion of it.
    Take a look at the letter N in JeroeN and compare it to mine..
    Those are similar.
    Here is my Krabbé signed photo..



    Petrin_Jeroen.jpg

    I have been collecting Bond autographs since 1997 and if anyone of you doubts the authenticity of the signature, please
    do not hesitate to contact me. I'm ready to tell my opinion of it.. and I think that 007_Autographcollector will do the same.

    To me, the Krabbe is 100% genuine that you have - I can't see any issues with it - I've seen plenty of Krabbes and they're all very similar to yours - can't see you have anything to worry about.

    PS. I don't buy from Bond Collectibles because there's word that they deal in forged materials, so I don't want to take the chance of getting burned (been burned enough already). However, that's my opinion and not the opinion of AJB.

    The only place I will buy Bond autographs is through Bond Stars now - on another note, if Sean Connery is so concerned about getting money for his autograph, why not just do it through Bond Stars, seems like a way to go, then he and the fans are happy? I don't personally agree with his perspective towards autographs, but that's his choice and as fans want his autograph, everyone's happy.

    The problem is when you buy ANY autograph online, you can NEVER be 100% of its authenticity unless you're buying it from an IP company or a reputable dealer and asked for authentication online etc/opinions and never buy an autograph without getting a lifetime guarantee (with money back) and a receipt.

    Thanks for your help, BondFanSince77, its appreciated.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    Hi all,

    Quick autograph question. I'm in the process of attempting to get the autograph of everyone who has appeared in a James Bond film. As some are deceased or do not sign unless in person, I'm having to fill in my collection with signed trading cards from Rittenhouse. The 50th anniversary set released this year included Joie Chitwood from Live and Let Die as a "limited" card which means there are between 300-500 autographed cards circulated in the set. My question is how is this possible since he passed away in 1988 and the cards are 2014 and not stickers affixed to cards but actual signatures in blue ink on the cards? I've posted a photo of the one I bought on Ebay recently. Thanks for any info/help.

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  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    75vette wrote:
    Quick autograph question. I'm in the process of attempting to get the autograph of everyone who has appeared in a James Bond film. As some are deceased or do not sign unless in person, I'm having to fill in my collection with signed trading cards from Rittenhouse. The 50th anniversary set released this year included Joie Chitwood from Live and Let Die as a "limited" card which means there are between 300-500 autographed cards circulated in the set. My question is how is this possible since he passed away in 1988 and the cards are 2014 and not stickers affixed to cards but actual signatures in blue ink on the cards? I've posted a photo of the one I bought on Ebay recently. Thanks for any info/help.

    Best guess would be that the driver is possibly Joie Jr. and thus still alive. Though Joie is credited on LALD, he would have been over 60 at the time, which I would say the driver is not. There are others far more informed on this but I'd say Chitwood Sr. was the stunt coordinator.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    Best guess would be that the driver is possibly Joie Jr. and thus still alive. Though Joie is credited on LALD, he would have been over 60 at the time, which I would say the driver is not. There are others far more informed on this but I'd say Chitwood Sr. was the stunt coordinator.

    Okay, I wasn't aware of that...that makes sense then. Thank you for the info!
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    75vette wrote:
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    Best guess would be that the driver is possibly Joie Jr. and thus still alive. Though Joie is credited on LALD, he would have been over 60 at the time, which I would say the driver is not. There are others far more informed on this but I'd say Chitwood Sr. was the stunt coordinator.

    Okay, I wasn't aware of that...that makes sense then. Thank you for the info!

    To reiterate: my best guess; could be wrong, but makes sense.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    75vette wrote:
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    Best guess would be that the driver is possibly Joie Jr. and thus still alive. Though Joie is credited on LALD, he would have been over 60 at the time, which I would say the driver is not. There are others far more informed on this but I'd say Chitwood Sr. was the stunt coordinator.

    Okay, I wasn't aware of that...that makes sense then. Thank you for the info!

    To reiterate: my best guess; could be wrong, but makes sense.

    Though it does make sense, I've been trying to verify this all weekend to no avail. Seems every site that mentions either LALD or the Chitwoods lists Joie Sr. as the stunt coordinator and driver. The photo on the Rittenhouse card, IMDb site, etc. is definitely not of a 60-year old man but someone much younger. Still, it seems like your explanation is probably accurate. Thanks, again, will keep trying to verify.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    Though not conclusive, this quote from Joie Chitwood Jr's collectible site seems to insinuate that by the 1970s and LALD, he and the younger son, Tim, were the primary drivers in the Chitwood company.

    "In 1965 Joie Jr took over the business and gave his Dad a much deserved slower schedule. Tim Chitwood, the younger son also started driving at the early age of 14. Tim went on to get his Engineering degree at the University of Florida. Tim graduated and the Chitwood brothers each had a show and they did about 200 shows a year at the State and County fairs and leading speedways in the US. In the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s the Chitwood brothers followed in their father’s footsteps.

    The movie industry also came calling as the chase scenes and car stunts became popular in the big movies. James Bond’s “Live and Let Die then many more including TV’s “CHIPS and Miami Vice”. Over 60 movies, commercials, TV shows and documentaries."
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    Just an update on Joie Chitwood, Jr. Last week I received several Bond autographed photos from Mr. Chitwood, Jr. that I had sent to him a couple of weeks ago. Apparently, it is the case that he is connected to the film as a driver, as well as his father.
  • ksupersnakeksupersnake switzerlandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Hello, I would like to buy Sean Connery autograph can you tell me if this autograph is real or fake? I think that it is fake, I know not much in autograph, I would like to have your opinion
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    Thanks
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    Hello, I would like to buy Sean Connery autograph can you tell me if this autograph is real or fake? I think that it is fake, I know not much in autograph, I would like to have your opinion
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    Thanks

    Fake.
  • ksupersnakeksupersnake switzerlandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    thank you that's what I thought :D
  • ksupersnakeksupersnake switzerlandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    do you know where I can find 27x40 poster signed by Sean Connery or Pierce Brosnan ?
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    edited January 2015
    do you know where I can find 27x40 poster signed by Sean Connery or Pierce Brosnan ?

    I would just Google those terms and look for a listing from a recognized seller. You can also look on eBay but be very wary of autographs there. There are almost certainly signatures of both available on the Bond Collectibles site but I don't believe he ever lists signed posters.
  • ksupersnakeksupersnake switzerlandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Thank you for your answer, I would look at it
  • rbeerbee Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    I notice that it is only a couple of posters that continually say that Bond Collectibles sell fakes. I would urge anyone to speak to Alex directly and to do your own research before purchasing an autograph. But to suggest that Alex sells more fake than genuine autographs is VERY wrong. I am all for forums like this helping collectors but if as soon as you mention Bond Collectibles you get replies of fake EVERY TIME then it's not really helpful at all is it?

    As a collector of autographs for thirty odd years and a seller of autographs for nearly twenty years let me say a couple of things.

    1. 'Fraser's is one of the most reputable auction houses in the world.' Not in my eyes and many other peoples. If you had seen what I have seen over the years.

    2. 'Note! It does not matter is it certified by DNA/PSA or any other certification company there is a lot of fakes in those too.' So right, again always do some research yourself.

    4. 'No dealer is 100% irrefutable.' Again so true, we aim to be 100% of course but hopefully in reality it's 99.9%.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    Hi all,

    I recently purchased a UK copy of "The World Of 007 - The Official James Bond Exhibition Brochure" from 1997. There are two signatures on the inside that I'm assuming are Bond related but I'm having trouble figuring out who they might be. Anyone have any ideas?

    Thanks!

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  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    Lee Pfeiffer and Dave Worrall, two 007 experts involved in mounting the exhibition.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    Lee Pfeiffer and Dave Worrall, two 007 experts involved in mounting the exhibition.

    Thanks, PoorMansJB! I suspected one was Pfeiffer's but couldn't make heads or tails of the other. Really appreciate your help!
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