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  • asioasio Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 546MI6 Agent
    rbee wrote:
    Point two about the multi signed items Alex agrees you were right and that they were fake.

    Wow, I would like the know his justification for this one.

    Based on all of the negative commentary, I delved through my autograph archives to be sure. Having purchased a George Lazenby signed photo from Bondcollectibles and then subsequently meeting Mr Lazenby at Pinewood Studios a few years later (and getting his autograph in person) I was able to reference the now-questioned autograph versus the bona fide - and I'm fairly confident I have 2 genuine autographs.
    The one I purchased from Bondcollectibles has original ink (variants in the thickness of the ink can be seen at multiple areas of the signature), and the autograph is slightly different from the bona fide one.

    However that being said, all of the bad press has definitely turned me off buying from BC again - sorry if that offends anyone... ?
    Drawn Out Dad.
    Independent, one-shot comic books from the outskirts of Melbourne, Australia.
    twitter.com/DrawnOutDad
  • rbeerbee Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    asio wrote:
    rbee wrote:
    Point two about the multi signed items Alex agrees you were right and that they were fake.

    Wow, I would like the know his justification for this one.

    Based on all of the negative commentary, I delved through my autograph archives to be sure. Having purchased a George Lazenby signed photo from Bondcollectibles and then subsequently meeting Mr Lazenby at Pinewood Studios a few years later (and getting his autograph in person) I was able to reference the now-questioned autograph versus the bona fide - and I'm fairly confident I have 2 genuine autographs.
    The one I purchased from Bondcollectibles has original ink (variants in the thickness of the ink can be seen at multiple areas of the signature), and the autograph is slightly different from the bona fide one.

    However that being said, all of the bad press has definitely turned me off buying from BC again - sorry if that offends anyone... ?


    Justification? Alex made a mistake as we all do.

    All I am interested in is the selling of authentic autographs. In the past I have spent a lot of time fighting the fakers and still receive abusive and threatening mail from them in the post for my troubles.

    I respect 007_Autographcollector knowledge of Bond autographs but I am now interested in knowing the extent to which he believes Alex is selling fakes. Is it a few dozen items over the years or hundreds?
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,341MI6 Agent
    Forgers will go a long way to deceive , going OT but for example I've heard of forgers baking 60s repro 007 press stills in the oven (!) to make them appear more vintage , more tanned etc. Dunno if this has actually happened but I wouldn't doubt it :#
  • rbeerbee Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    edited March 2015
    I am pleased that it has come to this 007_Autographcollector as we now have something to work with. Thanks for the stories.

    I can only talk about Alex as I find him. As I have said I supply him, I know star chasers that supply him and there have been many occasions over the years when I have asked Alex for something and he has told me that he doesn't have it and it has never appeared a few weeks or months later. This is really a mixed bag.

    But as I say it will be looked in to.

    Grindelwald, you have no idea what we see come through but believe me the fakers are getting better all the time.
  • tds123tds123 USAPosts: 34MI6 Agent
    edited March 2015
    I wanted an opinion on this autograph bondmobile is selling. Thank you.


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  • tds123tds123 USAPosts: 34MI6 Agent
    Rbee: It will certainly be interesting to see what Alex's excuse will be to this, particularly as we have all the emails from him to prove our point.

    Tds123: I am afraid that is a forgery so I would keep away from it and all other bond items that the seller is selling, that Roger Moore is a very poor forgery and any serious seller will know that. Good luck with your collecting :)

    Both parts? I already have a authentic Moore.
  • tds123tds123 USAPosts: 34MI6 Agent
    edited March 2015
    Thanks for your assistance.
  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    Hi all,

    Could I get your opinion on whether these are genuine or fakes? I would like to bid on them but find it somewhat hard to believe.

    Thanks!

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  • 75vette75vette South Outer BanksPosts: 82MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the feedback. They looked genuine to me as well, but now I'm beginning to wonder.

    I've done a little more research before bidding and found this same seller (amglasgow) has another set of signed index cards ending in a couple of hours and there are a couple of things that don't set right with me. The Dalton in the second set has "007" underneath his name and I find this odd as these are not being sold as older autographs and I was under the impression he didn't sign anything that relates him to Bond. Also, in the first set Moore signs "Best Wishes" but not in the second set and in the second set Lazenby signs "Best Wishes" but not in the first set. This just seems odd to me.

    Here is the second set he has listed on Ebay:

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    First auction:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAMES-BOND-007-COLLECTION-GENUINE-SIGNED-IN-PERSON-AUTOGRAPHED-A5-CARD-COA-/291401694860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43d8e4fe8c

    Second auction:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAMES-BOND-007-COLLECTION-GENUINE-SIGNED-IN-PERSON-AUTOGRAPHED-A5-CARD-COA-/291401680550?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43d8e4c6a6
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    Is that 007 at the bottom of Dalton's signature? Seems very strange he would do that with it widely known he won't sign Bond memorabilia.

    Moore in the 2nd one looks very much like mine from the private signing with Bond Stars.

    Something about Lazenby's looks off compared with my in person signing, but not sure why someone would go to the trouble of faking him as he is pretty widely available at reasonable prices.

    DC looks right, but his can be so variable with how quick he signs and it being a simple DC.

    Brosnan and Connery I don't have enough knowledge to make an informed commentary.
  • asioasio Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 546MI6 Agent
    Is that 007 at the bottom of Dalton's signature? Seems very strange he would do that with it widely known he won't sign Bond memorabilia.

    Moore in the 2nd one looks very much like mine from the private signing with Bond Stars.

    Something about Lazenby's looks off compared with my in person signing, but not sure why someone would go to the trouble of faking him as he is pretty widely available at reasonable prices.

    DC looks right, but his can be so variable with how quick he signs and it being a simple DC.

    Brosnan and Connery I don't have enough knowledge to make an informed commentary.

    The only Brosnan one I have (confirmed as authentic) has a giant PEACE symbol running through it. :)
    But looking at the set, IMO I am sceptical that all 6 actors would sign two sets of matching-sized index cards in exactly the same ink.
    Drawn Out Dad.
    Independent, one-shot comic books from the outskirts of Melbourne, Australia.
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  • rbeerbee Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    All the white cards are fake as is everything that seller sells.

    Just look at his previous auctions, big names selling for peanuts. Bowie is almost impossible to get. Sorry but in seconds you can tell not to touch that seller.

    I guess I had better say that this my opinion and not that of ajb007.co.uk
  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    I would say that you should tread with caution 75vette on anything the seller is selling on Ebay.

    Those set of autographs you have posted don't look the real deal to me. That Dalton in the first set just screams fake plus there's no way he would ever write '007' on any material he signs.

    As my friend 007_Autographcollector says, you just have to keep posting back here if you have any doubts for a second opinion here.

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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,746Chief of Staff
    Can I just thank the people that post in this thread for their expertise and professionalism -{
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  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Can I just thank the people that post in this thread for their expertise and professionalism -{

    Not at all.

    It's about time us experienced collectors educated the newbies on what to look out for so that they don't get lured & stung by these scammers.

    It's not a case of learning the hard way, more about learning before you are fooled.
  • tds123tds123 USAPosts: 34MI6 Agent
    Second opinion please for the Bach/Moore autographs a few posts back. Thank you.
  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    tds123 wrote:
    Second opinion please for the Bach/Moore autographs a few posts back. Thank you.

    If you are referring to your Bach & Moore multisign then I personally think it is fake, well certainly that Moore is.

    It's actually quite laughable really, the gold coloured pen is dodgy for a start and there's no way he'd sign in gold Sharpie either.
  • bondmobilebondmobile Posts: 92MI6 Agent
    That's quite interesting - I'd like to thank Todd for putting this out there, as I won that 8x10 in a raffle in 2010 at a spy theme charity event with several celebrities and several signed items.

    The COA has a local southern california business on it, once I have finished getting shipping quotes and whatnot for the other props that I have up for sale I'll have to give them a call and see if they have any info on provenance. The photo itself seems at least 15-20 years old judging by yellowing on the backing.

    --Brian
  • bondmobilebondmobile Posts: 92MI6 Agent
    edited March 2015
    If this or the handful of Bondcollectibles ones turn out to be fakes doesn't Alex take them back with some sort of lifetime guarantee? If so, the rest of my 'garage art' is listed for exactly the prices I paid years ago so it makes no difference to me whether I cash them out by selling to a collector, or returning to the original source if they're fake.

    If anyone is willing, I would appreciate a look through the collection (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.910126699009390.1073741836.100000362049893&type=1&l=08fca26efa) to let me know which other signatures seem suspect - if so, I'll see if I can return them instead of passing on bum goods to another collector. Authenticity doesn't bother me a huge amount for my own garage art, but I don't want to pass on anything false.

    --Brian
  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    As pointed out, most of Brauchle's stock (on his website and not Ebay sales) are genuine, with the odd few fakes amongst them. But again, please don't let that put you off as there are some nice rare genuine items to be had there.

    Without wanting to throw accusations around, it does worry me that week after week we're seeing the same autographs of (e.g. Robert Dix, Walter Gotell & various multisigns of hard to get actors all with a low starting bid on Ebay) then the very same thing on his website for a significantly more expensive price - bizarre! ajb007/insane ajb007/shifty

    So, in a nut-shell, I'd use him but with caution.
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,341MI6 Agent
    The Moore/Bach piece...let me quote monsieurs Bill & Ted : "totally bogus , man !" :p :))
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Have to say the way the experts on this thread conduct themselves, especially where clear fakes are queried, is exemplary.

    Rather than throw toy, hiss, launch Internet Exocet, and generally libel the poor enquirer, they calmly offer cogent reasoned advice.

    In brians case, I can personally testify for his honesty and credentials, so I know he'll take these comments sincerely.

    KEEP CALM
    AND OFFER
    ADVICE!
  • rbeerbee Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    007_Autographcollector both sets of cards were obvious fakes and yet you called the first set genuine.

    This for me throws doubt on your continuing crusade to discredit Bond Collectibles, there must be something else going on here.

    Disappointing.
  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    Rbee, it seems like you are new to the collecting industry & world of autographs and in my honest opinion, don't know quite enough to make a fair & knowledgeable decision on whether an autograph is real or fake.

    You have doubted 007_Autograph_Collectors' knowledge & appear to be 'picking fights' with the experienced collectors on here which in turn warrants a sour response 'ish' (naturally) from us.

    At the end of the day, when you ask someone for their opinion on an autograph, do remember that it is just that...............an opinion. We are not claiming to be experts (although with our years of knowledge and experience we aren't that far off being one.)

    But we do and will advise on whether we see a potential fake on here and if that happens to be sourced from Alex's (BondCollectibles) extensive collection then so be it, we al know now what he is capable of after almost 'stringing' us collectors along for a good number of years believing that his collection is the best of the best bla bla.

    One thing that annoys me about him is that he will say that he always gets stock signed for him in a private signing which in reality is cobblers because, the reality is, he will either attend an autograph show like Autographica or will have someone obtain signatures for him from there and claim that they were signed specially for his stock..........pompous or what?

    At the end of the day, ripping people off by forging autographs is the lowest of the low and that has to be dealt with accordingly. It does amuse me how he can sell for example a Rik Van Nutter on his website for $500 and the very same thing (no alterations in signature or pen colour/type) are on his Ebay auctions for $30 sold with no reserve.

    All of this is my opinion of course and doesn't necessarily reflect on him entirely, but certainly a large proportion of it.
  • rbeerbee Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    rbee, let me just clear a few things up. First off, I made a judgement on the first set of cards, without having seen the second set. And bearing in mind that set looked in my eyes genuine, after having seen the second set from the same seller, it could then be worked out that they were fakes. But as you frequently told us, "we all make mistakes right"?

    Secondly, the only person that anyone would have any doubts about on here, would be you. Since you came on here all you've done is try to back up Bondcollectibles despite the fact that myself and others (who have been here a lot longer than you) have given concrete evidence backing up that he sells fakes on his ebay, to which you (unsurprisingly) have come back with nothing but vague answers, which further backs up our thoughts, that he's been caught red handed by a number of people. I am still waiting for "Alex's" reply on the Kitzmiller fake, I wonder what his or your excuse will be then?

    "Something going on here?" The only thing going on here is a dealer has bought a lot of stock from a company that people are having huge doubts about and he's worried that his stock is now worthless. And so he's come on here, pretending he's been a member/expert for years and yet has only ever posted backing up bondcollectibles, a company backed up by how many Autograph authorities Richard...? That's right, NONE! So please don't come on here trying to simply pick arguments with someone who has made you look like a fool everytime you've backed up Bondcollectibles autographs, because trying to discredit me on purpose because I have proven my points shows exactly the type of dealer you are, and that will do you absolutely no favours when it comes to selling it.


    I came on to this board as someone told me that my name has been mentioned in this thread. If you read what I have written I have not always backed up Bondcollectibles at all, I have agreed with you on several points. With regards to his authenticity it's simply his word against yours, as I have said I am not familiar with the names you have mentioned, rarer Bond actors. I have told you what I know about Alex and I don't think my answers have been vague at all. After the comments on those cards I see no point in continuing this discussion.

    I can assure you I am not worried about my stock in the slightest. Your comments about me are simply not true. I have never pretended to have been a member on here for years, read my first post, I have only written six! i have not looked at this board beyond on this thread. Again when have I ever put myself forward as an expert? I have only given one opinion, on those cards! I don't feel you have made me look foolish at all and where have I picked a fight?

    To sum up I came on here as my name had been mentioned. I tried to offer help, give some perspective, balance and tell you what I know about Alex and how show signings work. Now everything I have said has been twisted around and I am being accused of all sorts! This is why I steer clear of internet forums, I have learnt my lesson once again.
  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    If you take a look at Alex's website then you'll see that he has a reference section for each of the main Bond actors (except Daniel Craig) and judging by most examples on there, that is the guide to go by more or less I would say.

    This should help clarify any doubts on fakes or secretarials that novices are posting up here.

    http://007-autographs.com/referencelibrary/
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    Thanks for that link, however, the second genuine example - 1979 - is identical to the second secretarial example.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    " What sharp little eyes you've got " ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    "Wait 'til you get to my toenails!"
  • Tilly Masterson 007Tilly Masterson 007 UKPosts: 1,472MI6 Agent
    Thanks for that link, however, the second genuine example - 1979 - is identical to the second secretarial example.

    And which actors signature are you referring to?

    It's funny how he doesn't have a 'faked' section for his George Lazenbys but does for every other actor. Oh, and the whole reference section of Alexs has been 'under construction' for years - he's no intention of updating it, why would he?
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