If Craig is gay, would it make you less likely to watch the next Bond

perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
There are rumors about Daniel Craig again being gay. Ironically they come up when MGM may be looking to sell the Bond franchise, the two could be related.


If it turns out the rumors are true, would you be less likely to watch a Bond film with Daniel Craig and would EON fire him?

I could watch a Bond with him as long as his personal lifestyle ended with the word "action". However, I not sure the franchise would viable with him.
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  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,709MI6 Agent
    No I wouldn't be less likely to watch Craigs next Bond movie. He's proven he can tackle the role. Craigs personal life should have nothing to do with the Bond franchise.
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Like Mr Martini said, Craig's already proven he can take the role.

    Plus Craig isn't overtly camp anyway. Not being homophobic or anything, but Bond being camp would put me off (don't start about Roger Moore - he aint that camp lol). But yeah, bond is not camp or gay, but even if Craig were gay, he could easily act in the role of bond, which he has already proven to do anyway
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  • Alec 006Alec 006 Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 211MI6 Agent
    What a weird thread...

    Firstly he's an actor. So IF he was gay I am certainly sure that would not affect his craft.
    Secondly I am confident, as I am sure is his ex-wife Fiona, his daughter Ella and his current partner Satsuki Mitchell that Daniel Craig is in fact straight.
    Finally... perdogg your sentence "would EON fire him?" Are you serious mate? Can you not even imagine the law suit and MASSIVE payout such an action would result in?

    I respect great actors, gay or straight. I mean the whole thing about acting is exactly that... who knows some great actors might be straight, gay, bi, nice, nasty or total tools in person. But act like good people.

    So Craigy, Straight, Gay or Bi (surely what perdogg was questioning anyway, rather than gay) who bloody cares?
    Let's just hope MGM sort their **** out in time for DC to give us a few more Bond films.
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  • 007007 ClassifiedPosts: 372MI6 Agent
    I just want the film made and couldn't care less if he was gay or not. He's a very, very good Bond.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,485MI6 Agent
    I assume the contract is such that EON can fire him, but he can't walk out on them.

    Perhaps therein lies the clue to his 'gayness': if he's frustrated with being tied to EON and wants 'out', what better way than posing as gay so a piqued Babs is forced to let him go... :D At this rate, he'll be up for a role in Mamma Mia 2 !
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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    Alec 006 wrote:
    What a weird thread...

    Firstly he's an actor. So IF he was gay I am certainly sure that would not affect his craft.
    Secondly I am confident, as I am sure is his ex-wife Fiona, his daughter Ella and his current partner Satsuki Mitchell that Daniel Craig is in fact straight.
    Finally... perdogg your sentence "would EON fire him?" Are you serious mate? Can you not even imagine the law suit and MASSIVE payout such an action would result in?

    I respect great actors, gay or straight. I mean the whole thing about acting is exactly that... who knows some great actors might be straight, gay, bi, nice, nasty or total tools in person. But act like good people.

    So Craigy, Straight, Gay or Bi (surely what perdogg was questioning anyway, rather than gay) who bloody cares?
    Let's just hope MGM sort their **** out in time for DC to give us a few more Bond films.
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    I believe people should have a private life. His sex life is none of my business. I could care less - However, I am sure EON would carefully control the Bond Franchise to the extent that an actors private sexual life would influence its marketability. It is naive to think that a gay actor playing 007 would not influence the success of the franchise, right or wrong.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    The only place I've heard these rumours is on fan forums 8-) It's funny how stubbornly these things persist...but the internet is the internet, and everything's true to someone ;)

    To answer the question posed in the title of the thread, however, there is nothing that would make me 'less likely' to watch any Bond film---whether it's the 'next,' or any of the past ones. I stayed with 007 during the desperate quality drought of the early-mid Eighties, and if that couldn't drive me away, nothing could.

    That said, I don't think Craig is any gayer than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne or Bruce Willis; he just gets weirder coverage.
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  • Alec 006Alec 006 Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 211MI6 Agent
    As ever Loeffeholz, bloody well said.
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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    The only place I've heard these rumours is on fan forums 8-) It's funny how stubbornly these things persist...but the internet is the internet, and everything's true to someone ;)

    To answer the question posed in the title of the thread, however, there is nothing that would make me 'less likely' to watch any Bond film---whether it's the 'next,' or any of the past ones. I stayed with 007 during the desperate quality drought of the early-mid Eighties, and if that couldn't drive me away, nothing could.

    That said, I don't think Craig is any gayer than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne or Bruce Willis; he just gets weirder coverage.


    This is balantaly incorrect. The rumors started at the National Enquire and LA Times. I did not start these rumors. maybe someone at Sony did to drive the price of Bond Franchise down, who knows?
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    perdogg wrote:
    The only place I've heard these rumours is on fan forums 8-) It's funny how stubbornly these things persist...but the internet is the internet, and everything's true to someone ;)


    This is balantaly incorrect. The rumors started at the National Enquire and LA Times. I did not start these rumors. maybe someone at Sony did to drive the price of Bond Franchise down, who knows?

    Loeffs doesn't need me to hold his coat, but he did not say that you started them or that they originated on the Net--he said the Net is the only place he has heard them. For that matter, I'm also someone who's heard these gay rumors only on the Internet. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    the National Enquire
    Solid as a rock! :))
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,818MI6 Agent
    What a ridiculous question!

    An individual's sexuality (actual or "perceived") is no one's business but their own. To me it has no bearing whatsoever on who they are , or what they do. This is the ugly side of showbiz, all this daft conspiracy theorising.

    What will make me either watch or avoid the next Bond film is the quality of the script, and the Editing!! - We don't want another AVTAK or QoS!
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    perdogg wrote:
    The only place I've heard these rumours is on fan forums 8-) It's funny how stubbornly these things persist...but the internet is the internet, and everything's true to someone ;)

    To answer the question posed in the title of the thread, however, there is nothing that would make me 'less likely' to watch any Bond film---whether it's the 'next,' or any of the past ones. I stayed with 007 during the desperate quality drought of the early-mid Eighties, and if that couldn't drive me away, nothing could.

    That said, I don't think Craig is any gayer than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne or Bruce Willis; he just gets weirder coverage.


    This is balantaly incorrect. The rumors started at the National Enquire and LA Times. I did not start these rumors. maybe someone at Sony did to drive the price of Bond Franchise down, who knows?

    As Hardyboy has pointed out, I never said you started any rumours, did I? My only point is that certain things (like this) persist for any number of reasons...not the least of which is that they're passed on via the 'net. The most tired and obvious example of this is danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.comTM*, whose anti-Craig blatherings always included a generous spoonful of homophobia...if it is, indeed, a play to undermine the value of the Bond franchise, it would be similarly misguided---and unsuccesful.

    Personally, I think the National Enquirer's reportage is vastly superior to the LA Times, if only because the Enquirer has no political agenda...but I'd be honestly surprised if this story didn't actually originate from one of the Brit tabloids; their DNA is all over this :))

    * See The AJB Glossary (So Far), in the General topics thread.
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  • youknowmynameyouknowmyname Gainesville, FL, USAPosts: 703MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    The only place I've heard these rumours is on fan forums 8-) It's funny how stubbornly these things persist...but the internet is the internet, and everything's true to someone ;)

    To answer the question posed in the title of the thread, however, there is nothing that would make me 'less likely' to watch any Bond film---whether it's the 'next,' or any of the past ones. I stayed with 007 during the desperate quality drought of the early-mid Eighties, and if that couldn't drive me away, nothing could.

    That said, I don't think Craig is any gayer than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne or Bruce Willis; he just gets weirder coverage.


    This is balantaly incorrect. The rumors started at the National Enquire and LA Times. I did not start these rumors. maybe someone at Sony did to drive the price of Bond Franchise down, who knows?

    As Hardyboy has pointed out, I never said you started any rumours, did I? My only point is that certain things (like this) persist for any number of reasons...not the least of which is that they're passed on via the 'net. The most tired and obvious example of this is danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.comTM*, whose anti-Craig blatherings always included a generous spoonful of homophobia...if it is, indeed, a play to undermine the value of the Bond franchise, it would be similarly misguided---and unsuccesful.

    Personally, I think the National Enquirer's reportage is vastly superior to the LA Times, if only because the Enquirer has no political agenda...but I'd be honestly surprised if this story didn't actually originate from one of the Brit tabloids; their DNA is all over this :))

    * See The AJB Glossary (So Far), in the General topics thread.

    Their DNA? I had no clue tabloids had DNA or could ejaculate it onto stories... :o That makes me very nervous to pick up a copy of a tabloid ever again. ;)

    With that immaturity out of the way...gay or not DC can hold his own with Bond. For that matter, I doubt the rumors are true, especially since there's been no response and no mainstream media picking up on this whatsoever. It was fish fodder for a weekend, and the only people still talking about are on this site :)
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Their DNA? I had no clue tabloids had DNA or could ejaculate it onto stories... :o That makes me very nervous to pick up a copy of a tabloid ever again. ;)

    Not to be overly pedantic, but I view tabloid output more as an excretion ;)
    ...the only people still talking about are on this site :)

    ...and I rest my case B-)
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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    The only place I've heard these rumours is on fan forums 8-) It's funny how stubbornly these things persist...but the internet is the internet, and everything's true to someone ;)

    To answer the question posed in the title of the thread, however, there is nothing that would make me 'less likely' to watch any Bond film---whether it's the 'next,' or any of the past ones. I stayed with 007 during the desperate quality drought of the early-mid Eighties, and if that couldn't drive me away, nothing could.

    That said, I don't think Craig is any gayer than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne or Bruce Willis; he just gets weirder coverage.


    This is balantaly incorrect. The rumors started at the National Enquire and LA Times. I did not start these rumors. maybe someone at Sony did to drive the price of Bond Franchise down, who knows?

    As Hardyboy has pointed out, I never said you started any rumours, did I? My only point is that certain things (like this) persist for any number of reasons...not the least of which is that they're passed on via the 'net. The most tired and obvious example of this is danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.comTM*, whose anti-Craig blatherings always included a generous spoonful of homophobia...if it is, indeed, a play to undermine the value of the Bond franchise, it would be similarly misguided---and unsuccesful.

    Personally, I think the National Enquirer's reportage is vastly superior to the LA Times, if only because the Enquirer has no political agenda...but I'd be honestly surprised if this story didn't actually originate from one of the Brit tabloids; their DNA is all over this :))

    * See The AJB Glossary (So Far), in the General topics thread.

    Okay, I apologize I should not have read more into your statement than I did, my bad. :) Everytime this issue comes up some one points out that Caraig suggested that Bond has gay love scene. If I recall this correctly, he was only joking right?
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    No worries, perdogg! :) Yeah, I think Craigger loves tweaking the press; he did say that at one point...he's also talked about being hit on by gay men---and declining the offer :D
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Is DC "gay"?

    I would like to present some good evidence that he's not....just watch Casino Royale and pay attention when Vesper gets out of bed in the Venice hotel room. She's odviously quite naked and from the leer DC gives, he is quite enjoying it!

    The only two things that would keep me from a new Bond film have both retired from the role!
  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    It really doesn't matter.

    What does matter is this - few people have ever seen this picture of Sean at one of California's premier gay gun clubs...



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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Prehaps DC was at the beach getting some pointers from "Zed"!
  • youknowmynameyouknowmyname Gainesville, FL, USAPosts: 703MI6 Agent
    It really doesn't matter.

    What does matter is this - few people have ever seen this picture of Sean at one of California's premier gay gun clubs...



    RDcC0.jpg


    That's so HOTT! :))
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    It really doesn't matter.

    What does matter is this - few people have ever seen this picture of Sean at one of California's premier gay gun clubs...



    RDcC0.jpg


    That's so HOTT! :))

    That poster's on the wall at danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.com HQ....
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  • youknowmynameyouknowmyname Gainesville, FL, USAPosts: 703MI6 Agent
    It really doesn't matter.

    What does matter is this - few people have ever seen this picture of Sean at one of California's premier gay gun clubs...



    RDcC0.jpg


    That's so HOTT! :))

    That poster's on the wall at danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.com HQ....

    Appropriate placement I would say. Of course, I don't know what Sir Sean looks like in that photo! :#
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    I like Zardoz. (there I've said it) It's an incoherent mess but Boorman has some thought provoking ideas which some how make their way through.

    While us straight men probably love Barberalla's attire, I believe the ladies should also have a "Brutals" wardrobe to admire.

    Then again they might just laugh at it.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    I think Craig likes to stir - or leave a few question marks in people's mind.... he also seems incredibly confident in his sexuality. He took on roles such as Capote's lover and also the artsit Bacon's lover too - which is proof he is interested in the movie, and not how he is portrayed or thought of becasue of his choices !

    As for 'would it make a difference?' - NOPE :D :x
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    Craig's always struck me as a bit of a thespian. He's certainly not been interested in being pigeon holed as an actor, and has taken every opportunity to explore his acting range. Bond is merely a part of his acting career, and he'll probably take on roles afterwards that are as different as they can be, but will we all care by then? I doubt it. There'll be a new Bond by then.
    I think Lexi is right that Craig likes a bit of a stir, and leave a question mark hanging. And being a "thesp" he'll undoubtedly have many gay friends, aquaintances and associates, and probably being a decent human being, this will not bother him in the slightest.
    A very straight Micheal Gambon once told an interviewer who was annoying him and being derogatory about gays (Gambon having a good many gay theatre collegues in particular) that he used to be gay, but had to give it up. When asked why, he told the interviewer that it "made my eyes water". Perhaps Craig just doesn't care what people think...
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  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    I honestly DONT think this crap is true .. Mr. Craig is NOT gay !

    anytime the media want to sell some Bull**it story; they always
    say ''a source said this, and a source saw that"

    I dont think it is true at all!

    however some interesting comments and views have been
    made here, most interesting to me was ''craig possibly wanting
    away from the Bond role'' so what better way to be an ''off put'' to
    fans than pretent to be something that Bond is deffinetly Not! and
    I mean that in thekindest way possible, I am just meaning, there are
    some fans, that would be put off the next film, I know that for a fact,
    Everyone has different views and opinions and thats just life, you cant
    take 5 or 6 peoples opinions saying, it wouldnt put them off Bond, and
    think the whole Bond fan base would be fine with it, That just aint life
    and its everyone that pays there Ticket to go to the cinema and Buys
    the DVD's etc, some wouldnt be put off, but it would be a 50/50 chance
    that would make or break the realease of the next film,

    SO YOU NEVER KNOW, if craig was maybe Acting! tactically ? and making
    it obvious to on-lookers, I know a gay couple, who have been together
    for a few years, two decent, funny, down to earth guys and even they
    don't behave like the ''SUPPOSED SOURCE'' saw Mr. Craig acting
    like ..... so could it be an obvious tactic to get rid of the Bond role,
    I DOUBT IT, Mind you Mr. Brosnan's final ''Good Bye, Mr, Bond, came from
    out of the blue'' in the fans and the actors mind at the time.

    ANOTHER interesting point that jumps out at me, is the possibility of
    stupid rumours being spun, to bring down the price of the sale of MGM
    maybe ? and Bond being there biggest asset in the sale, Could be some
    tactical play from bidders and money men ? I think this is a more realistic
    reason for the rumour

    BUT THE MOST LOGICAL explanation in my mind is ''DONT BELEIVE WHAT
    YOU READ IN THE PAPERS, PRESS AND MEDIA, propaganda is used
    to change opinions and views to other groups advantage!

    COME ON! I for one Dont think this ''Craig ,Gay business'' is true at all

    I am remaining nuteral, as to wither it would put me off watching a Bond
    film with the lead actor being gay outside of the role, I think it would loose
    something if I am honest, As great an Actor as Mr. Craig is, I just dont think
    The female Bond fans would lust after him like they do, Guys wouldnt see him
    as the Bond he has created, Maybe thats just me thinking out loud, But as I
    say I would have to see the next film if that was the case and then have an
    opinion after seeing it.

    but if it does Turn out to be true I could see another actor wearing Bonds
    Shoulder Holster in the next film, Not that EON or the next owners of MGM
    or current etc are homophobic, Nothing like that at all ! I think in terms of a
    business and film distribution decision, they just wouldnt want to take the
    risk and the gamble! thats all, and I for one would respect that.

    But my final thought at the moment, would be ''STUPID RUMOURS''


    not that I want this topic to go in a ''actor for next Bond direction''
    but this man would be my choice :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

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    or if you want a controversial choice and the constant ''is he gay or isnt he'' Even after marriage to a woman

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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    ANOTHER interesting point that jumps out at me, is the possibility of
    stupid rumours being spun, to bring down the price of the sale of MGM
    maybe ? and Bond being there biggest asset in the sale, Could be some
    tactical play from bidders and money men ? I think this is a more realistic
    reason for the rumour

    I brought this up when I posted the original article. As I said before, I could care less. I would be more concerned about the future of the Bond franchise than anything else.
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  • bondfanbondfan Posts: 70MI6 Agent
    " If Craig is gay, would it make you less likely to watch the next Bond?"

    Yes.
  • deliciousdelicious SydneyPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    I dont understand. I thought Craig was gay. Is this not the case? That changes everything. I can't abide straight people. It's disgusting the things they get up to. As long as they do it it the privacy of their own homes and dont frighten the horses fair enough but don't let them take over the film industry for God's sake. We'll end up with bad fashion, bad hair styles, bad sets, bad writing, bad music and ugly men. Who wants that?

    Seriously though, Moneypenny and M said it best: "Don't ask." "Don't tell."

    T'ain't nobody's business what a person does in bed and has no bearing on their professional abilities (unless they happen to be a gigolo).
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