Golden Gun Update

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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    but you are the lucky owner of 007 -{
  • Disco VolanteDisco Volante Surrey, EnglandPosts: 543MI6 Agent
    I suspect the numbers are written on with a permanent marker pen (Sharpie most likely) but will no doubt come off with polish.

    Whilst I'm not inferring that yours has been doctored in anyway, I can almost guarantee that another 007 will pop up on ebay for an inflated price. I'm surprised FE didn't have each number engraved, as SD did.
  • texas007texas007 Houston, Texas 77041Posts: 2,356MI6 Agent
    Engraving is a lot more expensive that is why :))
    I suspect the numbers are written on with a permanent marker pen (Sharpie most likely) but will no doubt come off with polish.

    Whilst I'm not inferring that yours has been doctored in anyway, I can almost guarantee that another 007 will pop up on ebay for an inflated price. I'm surprised FE didn't have each number engraved, as SD did.
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    :D yeah but lets face it, I bet there are more 007 sd items out there than just 1 of each item :)) if someone is going to make money they will fake it.

    having said all that, it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

    keep the shipping box as that will be provenence that yours is the original 007 -{
  • Factory Q-BranchFactory Q-Branch Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    The plaques are numbered with an industrial marker, the same special pen that is used to sign the signatures.

    The pens are produced for laboratories and industrial applications where permanent marking on glass, plastic or metal is required. It is not a regular marker and can only be removed with abrasion or chemicals.

    The reason we do not engrave the plaques with numbers is logistical . The plaques are not numbered until after all signing is complete and all the signatures have been checked and they are ready to be packed into the boxes at the factory. We examine the signatures carefully to ensure that none are rejects and we always ask the signer/s to provide some extras over and above the edition size to allow for damage, replacements and contractual licensor samples that we have to provide. In the case of a multi-signature edition this is even more complex as a plaque with a good signature 'A' might have an unacceptable signature 'B' and become a reject. We investigated having the plaques engraved with numbers after signing but this leads to quality issues with the signatures being damaged during the engraving process. Hand signing is more forgiving.

    In an ideal world the person/s signing would sit down together around a table at the same time and sign each and every plaque together perfectly in their numerical order one sitting. But it rarely happens like that.

    It should be noted that statistically no one number is any more rare or valuable than another, number 007 is no rarer than 156 or 001. The edition size is set at 400 pieces, there are and will be no more. If you have one yours is just as rare and valuable as another in the edition regardless of it's numbering.

    We do not hold back or retain perceived 'special' numbers. All items are randomly packed and shipped out, so it is entirely possible that anybody could receive any number.

    The real value of these plaques are the personal hand signed signatures of two world renowned and octogenarian actors, who played the lead roles in the film that the prop comes from. Something that sadly you will probably never see again.
    Nobody would be foolish enough to adapt their plaque and risk devaluing or ruining such a treasure.
  • CAMMYCAMMY Fife,ScotlandPosts: 53MI6 Agent
    my package has been released from custums but with charges to pay, so it is on its way and should receive it in the next couple of days
    the mantis says that his bullet didn't have the 007 inscribed on it,but fe's website shows the bullet with 007 and also in the description it describes that the bullet has 007
    is there anybody else without the 007 and if so, has anybody got any ideas about getting it on without damaging the bullet
  • texas007texas007 Houston, Texas 77041Posts: 2,356MI6 Agent
    The one bullet is engraved 007 - the extra five in a tiny box are not engraved
    CAMMY wrote:
    my package has been released from custums but with charges to pay, so it is on its way and should receive it in the next couple of days
    the mantis says that his bullet didn't have the 007 inscribed on it,but fe's website shows the bullet with 007 and also in the description it describes that the bullet has 007
    is there anybody else without the 007 and if so, has anybody got any ideas about getting it on without damaging the bullet
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Yes, I was shipped, by accident, without a 007 bullet. And of course FE is rectifying this...:)
  • JB1962JB1962 USAPosts: 194MI6 Agent
    My SE number 091 arrived today. Congrats dailo007 on getting number 007!
  • 007storm007storm The NetherlandsPosts: 345MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
    My gun is still waiting at custums for the last 3 to 4 days. Any europe/nederland buyers received there's already? And had they any extra costs at custums?
    My James Bond Collection:
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  • Theladiesman009.5Theladiesman009.5 Posts: 39MI6 Agent
    Lucky you who got number 007, mine was to be delivered today, but I was not at home to sign for it so the delivery is rescheduled Dec 1, we will see what happens.
  • YouknowthenameYouknowthename Carver Media GroupPosts: 501MI6 Agent
    007storm wrote:
    My gun is still waiting at custums for the last 3 to 4 days. Any europe/nederland buyers received there's already? And had they any extra costs at custums?

    Nothing here as well - but be prepared for a 19% tax bill X-(
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    Anyone in Canada has received it?
    If you can't trust a Swiss banker, what's the world come to?
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
    Couple of questions for Factory Q-Branch: Why do the boxes for the DSE say xxx of 430 if you say there are only 400 DSEs? Also, I think I may have a defected Cigarette Case but I wanted to show you pics before sending it in for replacement:

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    See the holes that the Cufflink screws into are not lined up at all and from the looks of it after comparing the hole's location to the YouTube video of y'all's Golden Gun demonstration, it seems that it is the Cigarette Case's issue that the hole was drilled too far up on the lid. Has anybody else had similar issues, or is this perhaps a prototype that was accidentally packaged with the rest? Just curious, but I will need to send it in for replacement unless I'm just clueless and not assembling it correctly (but I'm pretty sure I am :)) )
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Also, FQB, I forgot to mention that my GG didn't seem to come with the 007 Golden Bullet. I guess I just got an unlucky Golden Gun, heh :# Not a big deal, just as long as I can get the issues fixed.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    Hopefully your order is the exception.
    If you can't trust a Swiss banker, what's the world come to?
  • Double Oh ZombieDouble Oh Zombie Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    Looks like your cig case is drilled in the wrong place. Nice.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Yeah i'm guessing it was drilled in the right place, but they put the hinge and magnet on the wrong sides, making it seem like the hole was wrongfully drilled, but I guess it doesn't matter just as long as I get a Golden Gun that I can actually assemble, because without the correct Cigarette Case, the Cufflink is just for show.
  • Double Oh ZombieDouble Oh Zombie Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    The hinge and cover are on correctly. It is drilled in the wrong spot. Look at the others.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    No, that's what I mean I'm saying when they manufactured it they probably got the magnet and hinge out of place, so that when it was attached to the case, it made the hole be on the opposite side of where it needs to be, because it looks to me that (not that I would, I'll just have FE replace it) if I disconnected the lid from the case and could flip it around, then it would be good. Obviously I'd have to remove the magnet and take off the hinge and find a way to reattach them on opposite sides, which would be impossible for me, so back to FE it goes.

    Oh I forgot to mention also, that when I actually do have the gun assembled, minus the trigger since the cufflink won't stay on without the alinement, the case lid seems to be bent slightly away from the lighter. As in from a bird's eye perspective, they aren't in a strait line of each other. I'll try and post a picture of what I'm taking about.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
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    Sorry, I meant head-on perspective, not bird's eye, but anyways the Cigarette Case's lid bends a bit off to the right in this picture from its alignment with the Lighter. I don't know if this is a whole other problem, or simply because the trigger can't be put in to act as a pin to keep the lighter and case lid lined up, but anyways, that's just another thing I noticed.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Factory Q-Branch, one more question: Is there supposed to be some type of Certificate of Authenticity with the Golden Gun? I assumed the Prop Story Booklet might have contained a COA, but I don't see one. It's no big deal, I'm just curious. Also, as a collector, I'm not too thrilled about peeling the back of the DSE Plaque off to stick it to the base, yet it won't seem to just sit it the base by itself like the Jaws' Teeth SE Plaque can. Do you have any recommendations for non-permanently putting the Plaque in its Base?
  • BozzltovBozzltov Posts: 89MI6 Agent
    double sided tape?
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    I thought of that, Bozzltov, but I still think it'd be permanent, as removing the plaque with tape could tear at the card board-like material on the back. I don't like how FE did this, because if one had to drive the replica from lets say college to home (which is my situation, actually) then I feel like the plaque being part of the Display Base would run a much bigger risk of getting damaged, then being able to have the plaque alone where you could safely keep it in a glove box of something like that. Maybe it's just me but I think that a high-end collectible prop replica like this that has been signed by TWO world famous actors, who also happen to be sirs, then the plaque should be some sort of durable metal, like Master Replicas always had. I just feel like a flimsy piece of card board with TWO extremely valuable signatures do not go well together. It just seems way to likely to get permanently damaged very easily. Again with Master Replicas, their Signature Edition Plaques, along with all of there Limited Edition Plaques, were always brass, so you couldn't accidentally put a crease in one or tear it in half for that matter; the signatures were completely safe from anything like that. It's not a big deal to me the the Edition Numbers are hand written instead of engraved, but it is a big deal when a Plaque worth about $200 becomes a liability to severe damage, due to being made of paper instead of metal. I'm just praying that I never accidentally cause harm to mine during my lifetime of owning this amazing Prop Replica. But does anybody else agree with me that when the DSE GG is priced at $650.00 and even at the MSRP of the LE being $450.00, the plaques should be metal? FQB, understand I'm not trying to hate on you or anything. I think this is a remarkable Prop Replica (at least when undefected :D ) I am merely critiquing this minor flaw of an overall fantastically well made item. I guess I'm just worried, because we know that out of 1,400 Golden Gun Plaques or even 2,115 Plaques counting the Jaws' Teeth ones, that at least one poor guy is going to accidentally fold or tear his or her Plaque, devaluing it greatly. My suggestion is that for the 007 wave 2 Prop Replicas, y'all should switch to metal plaques, to avoid such possible mishaps.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    I do understand however that if one permanently attached the Plaque to its Base, then most potential crease and tear danger would be gone, but with the Base of the Plaque being part of the Base of the Replica, (which I think is really cool, don't get me wrong) then like I said, when it comes to shipping the Replica between homes, then it's a big risk of getting rubbed against inside the box, being connected to the heavy base, so that's why I say all of this. I suppose it's not a big deal for Jaws' Teeth, since that Plaque Base is its own piece and pretty much the same size as the Plaque itself, but here, I just see too much potential risk.
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
    Received mine today - honestly i'm quite disappointed to the quality, it looks and feels like a damn toy :#

    I was going to write a full review of the GG as my expectations were high,
    now i can't even think about writing one 'cause i don't want to spread lies of so called high end product.

    My number one rule goes here as well "hope for the best, plan for the worst".

    If I had known about this quality issue, i would have been ready to wait for better results.

    Well maybe FE will make 2nd gen version of GG for next Christmas LOL BIG TIME
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

    TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"

    Formerly known as Teppo
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    I thought that at too when I first assembled the Lighter to the Cigarette Case it seemed plastic, but then I realized they just put plastic parts inside of the Lighter to keep the metal from rubbing against itself when sliding in and out the Breach section. I do have to say though, that I don't think they are worth their MSRPs. Perhaps the DSE could stay the same price just because it's such a rare and amazing opportunity to own something signed by BOTH Sir Roger Moore and Sir Christopher Lee, but still, I would say both the LE and the DSE should have been at least $100 less, especially with the Plaque quality that I've been ranting about. Again with Master Replicas: Most all of their LE Prop Replicas were MSRPed at about $370 and they still put the same quality of their replicas into everything else that the replicas came with, but here, Plaque aside, I don't even see a Certificate of Authenticity, which seems very unusual for Licensed Prop Replicas, especially of these Edition Numbers. I am a fan of the Prop Story Booklet, however, so I guess that helps cancel out not having a COA, but still, what's going to be used in the future to I.D. a FE GG as actually being FE and not a fake?
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    And members of James Bond fan forums were perfect test dummies for this one :v
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

    TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"

    Formerly known as Teppo
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Personally, I'm still kind of mad that they wouldn't even let us use our little tiny $10 coupon, that came with the Blue Print, towards this. I mean for the Dual Signature Edition, it would have only been a 1.5% off discount, yet apparently that was too much to allow. Not to mention that the thing expired October 31st 2010, which really gave those of us, who pre-ordered everything on day 1, absolutely zero options, other than buying something from a completely different franchise, but it is what it is I guess :#
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