Next James Bond Poll

arthur pringle

I found this page quite interesting. Apologies if it's been posted before. Gerry Butler & Richard Armitage seem to be mopping up the votes.

http://www.alternative007.co.uk/26.htm

Ricardo C.

arthur pringle wrote:

I found this page quite interesting. Apologies if it's been posted before. Gerry Butler & Richard Armitage seem to be mopping up the votes.

http://www.alternative007.co.uk/26.htm

Some look like high-school football jocks, others look too soft. I definetly want to see Gerard or Jackman but really, I am happy with Craig now.

Thunderpussy

I'm no fan of DC but I think for continuity he should do the next or even another before a replacement is thought of.and I might be getting old but along with Ricardo C. alot do look like high-school jocks.Given that many didn't think PB was built up enough for Bond in Goldeneye,I'd say alot of these guys would need to hit the gym now to be ready in a few years.

superdaddy

Thunderpussy wrote:

I'm no fan of DC but I think for continuity he should do the next or even another before a replacement is thought of.and I might be getting old but along with Ricardo C. alot do look like high-school jocks.Given that many didn't think PB was built up enough for Bond in Goldeneye,I'd say alot of these guys would need to hit the gym now to be ready in a few years.

Always thought Bond was supposed to be lean not bulky.

Thunderpussy

I wouldn't of put DC down as bulky,Infact I have a body twice as good as DC, well my waist size is twice as big

Ricardo C.

Thunderpussy wrote:

I wouldn't of put DC down as bulky,Infact I have a body twice as good as DC, well my waist size is twice as big

Well Dan was pretty bulky in CR, especially for Bond.

Bond is suppose to definetly have a lean Bond with some muscle.

mrbain007

I think that when it comes to Bond, one thing is very clear: the public are an EXTREMELY fickle bunch. For a long time it was Connery vs. Moore. When Pierce Brosnan came on the scene in Goldeneye he was described as the "best Bond since Connery" (Radio Times review). I remember when that film came out, he was generally very well regarded. Now the likes of him and RM are accused of "ruining the series" and DC has now overtaken Pierce as "the best Bond since Connery". Likewise Dalton has had a revival as being the Bond "closer to Ian Fleming" Personally for me Pierce and Sean will ALWAYS remain the ultimate Bonds, with Roger and Tim not far behind. However I respect all the actors that have played Bond. Its just funny seeing how public opinion seems to constantly change.

Ricardo C.

mrbain007 wrote:

I think that when it comes to Bond, one thing is very clear: the public are an EXTREMELY fickle bunch. For a long time it was Connery vs. Moore. When Pierce Brosnan came on the scene in Goldeneye he was described as the "best Bond since Connery" (Radio Times review). I remember when that film came out, he was generally very well regarded. Now the likes of him and RM are accused of "ruining the series" and DC has now overtaken Pierce as "the best Bond since Connery". Likewise Dalton has had a revival as being the Bond "closer to Ian Fleming" Personally for me Pierce and Sean will ALWAYS remain the ultimate Bonds, with Roger and Tim not far behind. However I respect all the actors that have played Bond. Its just funny seeing how public opinion seems to constantly change.

Dalton is often accused of ruining the series financially while Moore is now labeled as the one who destroyed the series' credibility; Though The Spy Who Loved Me seems to be immune from any negative criticisms. Pierce I haven't seen viewied in a very negative light but he is definetly being glossed over these days. Goldeneye is still being view as the best Brosnan but it's the kids who often declare it the best Bond.

Barbel

mrbain007 wrote:

I think that when it comes to Bond, one thing is very clear: the public are an EXTREMELY fickle bunch. For a long time it was Connery vs. Moore. When Pierce Brosnan came on the scene in Goldeneye he was described as the "best Bond since Connery" (Radio Times review). I remember when that film came out, he was generally very well regarded. Now the likes of him and RM are accused of "ruining the series" and DC has now overtaken Pierce as "the best Bond since Connery". Likewise Dalton has had a revival as being the Bond "closer to Ian Fleming" Personally for me Pierce and Sean will ALWAYS remain the ultimate Bonds, with Roger and Tim not far behind. However I respect all the actors that have played Bond. Its just funny seeing how public opinion seems to constantly change.

To the general public (and not us fans)-

Connery was loved and admired.
Lazenby was neither.
Moore was loved but not admired.
Dalton was admired but not loved.
Brosnan was loved and admired.
Craig splits opinion. Drastically!

Thunderpussy

A very good observation Barbel.

mrbain007

Ricardo C. wrote:

mrbain007 wrote:

I think that when it comes to Bond, one thing is very clear: the public are an EXTREMELY fickle bunch. For a long time it was Connery vs. Moore. When Pierce Brosnan came on the scene in Goldeneye he was described as the "best Bond since Connery" (Radio Times review). I remember when that film came out, he was generally very well regarded. Now the likes of him and RM are accused of "ruining the series" and DC has now overtaken Pierce as "the best Bond since Connery". Likewise Dalton has had a revival as being the Bond "closer to Ian Fleming" Personally for me Pierce and Sean will ALWAYS remain the ultimate Bonds, with Roger and Tim not far behind. However I respect all the actors that have played Bond. Its just funny seeing how public opinion seems to constantly change.

Dalton is often accused of ruining the series financially while Moore is now labeled as the one who destroyed the series' credibility; Though The Spy Who Loved Me seems to be immune from any negative criticisms. Pierce I haven't seen viewied in a very negative light but he is definetly being glossed over these days. Goldeneye is still being view as the best Brosnan but it's the kids who often declare it the best Bond.

I must be a kid then as its my personal favourite out of all the Bond films. Oh well

thesecretagent

Ricardo C. wrote:

Thunderpussy wrote:

I wouldn't of put DC down as bulky,Infact I have a body twice as good as DC, well my waist size is twice as big

Well Dan was pretty bulky in CR, especially for Bond.

Bond is suppose to definetly have a lean Bond with some muscle.

IMO DC had a slightly odd build in CR. I think he had concentrated on upper body strength a little too much, and had this weird lump toward his abdomen. In a suit he still looks fairly small. His build reminds me of gymnasts - they look so big and muscled on the rings, then dismount and go stand by their trainers and look tiny... Brosnan is still the heaviest actor to play Bond (DAD) by a mile, and I think looked the best, especially in his suits. It takes a lot to pull off a good look in a suit - I alkways think this when I'm photographed in a suit and look more like Odd Job than Connery...

Thunderpussy

Good points,secretagent. When I said that some of the guys on the list needed to go to a gym The point I was trying to make , wasn't that they become another Arnie.Rather that they looked rather scrawny/young like pigeon chested highschool / twlight Actors.
I have a mate who's a Boxer, with clothes on on a night out he looks very Lean and ordinary,In the ring it's quite diffrent as you can see that he has a very muscular frame.

Barbel

Thunderpussy wrote:

A very good observation Barbel.

Thank you!

Napoleon Plural

I did read somewhere that Craig's 'lump in his abdomen' came from having been on steroids to boost his muscle, it's a side effect apparently.

Loeffelholz

I liked Craig's look in CR (passed for someone transitioning out of special forces, and made a nice statement about where the character 'was' in his life/career), but in QoS his build was pretty much perfect---leaner and more 'cardio'. For the next Bond (whenever that is), Henry Cavill remains my favourite...but surprises always lurk.

Ricardo C.

mrbain007 wrote:

Ricardo C. wrote:

mrbain007 wrote:

I think that when it comes to Bond, one thing is very clear: the public are an EXTREMELY fickle bunch. For a long time it was Connery vs. Moore. When Pierce Brosnan came on the scene in Goldeneye he was described as the "best Bond since Connery" (Radio Times review). I remember when that film came out, he was generally very well regarded. Now the likes of him and RM are accused of "ruining the series" and DC has now overtaken Pierce as "the best Bond since Connery". Likewise Dalton has had a revival as being the Bond "closer to Ian Fleming" Personally for me Pierce and Sean will ALWAYS remain the ultimate Bonds, with Roger and Tim not far behind. However I respect all the actors that have played Bond. Its just funny seeing how public opinion seems to constantly change.

Dalton is often accused of ruining the series financially while Moore is now labeled as the one who destroyed the series' credibility; Though The Spy Who Loved Me seems to be immune from any negative criticisms. Pierce I haven't seen viewied in a very negative light but he is definetly being glossed over these days. Goldeneye is still being view as the best Brosnan but it's the kids who often declare it the best Bond.

I must be a kid then as its my personal favourite out of all the Bond films. Oh well

Well I do tend to notice it's the teenagers who say Goldeneye is the best but to be fair, usually up to 30 years old. I am 23 and GE is okay IMO.

Number24

Michael Fassbender is my favourite right now. He is a rising star, a very good actor, does action well and his looks are a mix of Daniel Craig and more traditional Bond looks.

superdaddy

Loeffelholz wrote:

I liked Craig's look in CR (passed for someone transitioning out of special forces, and made a nice statement about where the character 'was' in his life/career), but in QoS his build was pretty much perfect---leaner and more 'cardio'. For the next Bond (whenever that is), Henry Cavill remains my favourite...but surprises always lurk.

And mine.

mrbain007

Ricardo C. wrote:

mrbain007 wrote:

Ricardo C. wrote:

Dalton is often accused of ruining the series financially while Moore is now labeled as the one who destroyed the series' credibility; Though The Spy Who Loved Me seems to be immune from any negative criticisms. Pierce I haven't seen viewied in a very negative light but he is definetly being glossed over these days. Goldeneye is still being view as the best Brosnan but it's the kids who often declare it the best Bond.

I must be a kid then as its my personal favourite out of all the Bond films. Oh well

Well I do tend to notice it's the teenagers who say Goldeneye is the best but to be fair, usually up to 30 years old. I am 23 and GE is okay IMO.

I think I have a strong nostalga for it as it was first Bond film I ever watched. I was 10 and am now 24 so I kind of grew up with GE. I also grew up with PB as the face of Bond so for me he "is" Bond Thats y I hate this apparent backlash against him.

arthur pringle

mrbain007 wrote:

I also grew up with PB as the face of Bond so for me he "is" Bond Thats y I hate this apparent backlash against him.

Brosnan is not my favourite Bond but the retrospective criticism of him got a bit silly. I remember looking at various forums (and countless magazines) when he was still Bond and everyone seemed to think he was fine. As soon as he leaves the role we learn that half of these people apparently thought he was dreadful. I think this tends to happen when you get a new Bond. The new actor is immediately overrated and the last actor cops some flak. When Dalton took over he was Fleming's Bond at last (etc) and Roger was terrible, when Brosnan took over he was the perfect Bond and Dalton was terrible, when Craig took over he was the world's greatest actor or whatever and Brosnan was suddenly terrible. When James Bond#7 arrives he'll be the greatest thing ever to happen to the franchise and Craig will probably be terrible (uncouth, short, etc).

Loeffelholz

arthur pringle wrote:

mrbain007 wrote:

I also grew up with PB as the face of Bond so for me he "is" Bond Thats y I hate this apparent backlash against him.

Brosnan is not my favourite Bond but the retrospective criticism of him got a bit silly. I remember looking at various forums (and countless magazines) when he was still Bond and everyone seemed to think he was fine. As soon as he leaves the role we learn that half of these people apparently thought he was dreadful. I think this tends to happen when you get a new Bond. The new actor is immediately overrated and the last actor cops some flak. When Dalton took over he was Fleming's Bond at last (etc) and Roger was terrible, when Brosnan took over he was the perfect Bond and Dalton was terrible, when Craig took over he was the world's greatest actor or whatever and Brosnan was suddenly terrible. When James Bond#7 arrives he'll be the greatest thing ever to happen to the franchise and Craig will probably be terrible (uncouth, short, etc).

Quite right, Arthur. This is what I've come to call the James Bond Circle of Life^TM...maybe ought to go into the glossary...

...good to see you around, BTW {[]

Ricardo C.

arthur pringle wrote:

mrbain007 wrote:

I also grew up with PB as the face of Bond so for me he "is" Bond Thats y I hate this apparent backlash against him.

Brosnan is not my favourite Bond but the retrospective criticism of him got a bit silly. I remember looking at various forums (and countless magazines) when he was still Bond and everyone seemed to think he was fine. As soon as he leaves the role we learn that half of these people apparently thought he was dreadful. I think this tends to happen when you get a new Bond. The new actor is immediately overrated and the last actor cops some flak. When Dalton took over he was Fleming's Bond at last (etc) and Roger was terrible, when Brosnan took over he was the perfect Bond and Dalton was terrible, when Craig took over he was the world's greatest actor or whatever and Brosnan was suddenly terrible. When James Bond#7 arrives he'll be the greatest thing ever to happen to the franchise and Craig will probably be terrible (uncouth, short, etc).

Yes that is true. I heard Brosnan being hailed as "the secound coming of Connery" but now he seems to be either bashed or his contributions are merely glossed over. Right now Craig is the new golden boy, let's see how long he will remain as such.

mrbain007

arthur pringle wrote:

mrbain007 wrote:

I also grew up with PB as the face of Bond so for me he "is" Bond Thats y I hate this apparent backlash against him.

Brosnan is not my favourite Bond but the retrospective criticism of him got a bit silly. I remember looking at various forums (and countless magazines) when he was still Bond and everyone seemed to think he was fine. As soon as he leaves the role we learn that half of these people apparently thought he was dreadful. I think this tends to happen when you get a new Bond. The new actor is immediately overrated and the last actor cops some flak. When Dalton took over he was Fleming's Bond at last (etc) and Roger was terrible, when Brosnan took over he was the perfect Bond and Dalton was terrible, when Craig took over he was the world's greatest actor or whatever and Brosnan was suddenly terrible. When James Bond#7 arrives he'll be the greatest thing ever to happen to the franchise and Craig will probably be terrible (uncouth, short, etc).

Absolutely spot on Arthur! It just shows how fickle the public at large are with Bond.

Thunderpussy

I think Barbel's post sums up the line of actors very well,I've never had a problem with any of the Actors who've played Bond.Until .................................
DC Has really split opinions, fans seem to either love or hate him (I'm in the latter camp) each Actor brings something to the role and plays it to his strengths. Moore had the light comedian approach, Dalton was the Brooding loner, Brosnan a mix of Moore/Connery.
So far we've only got to see the inner turmoil,grieving, revengeful Craig, I do hope In the next outting we might get to see a greater range keeping the strengths of a more human Bond but mixed with a slightly lighter touch the odd comic moment would be much appreciated. ( and of course the use of a steady-cam would be nice) )

thesecretagent

Film companies have invested fortunes in girscopic mountings for cameras, electron charged magnetic suspension for cars, HD film technology - and then along comes Quantum of Solace...

It is jerky in a way the Bourne films are not.

Please, please, please steady up that camera - seriously, or Thunderpussy will spend the next two years howling at the moon!

Alessandra

I think Barbel's post summed it up really well for the general public.

As far as my personal preference for the next Bond, there's only one man and that's Henry Cavill. I swear I will go James Bond on Barbara Broccoli as if she was Blofeld if Cavill isn't the next one ) I finally found a video interview of his on youtube today, where he said that both the Superman and the James Bond role came very close. It better happen next time. X-(

Barry Nelson

For what it is worth, which is nothing, I would cast my vote for Alex O'Loughlin.

chrisno1

I always thought Joseph Fiennes would be good as Bond, but he's getting on a bit now. I'm quite open to most recent suggestions as long as it isn't an American - some things need to be held sacred. Eric Bana might be good too. (Is he Australian, I can't recall?)

As for the others, well, I like them all, but Moore went on too long. It wasn't him so much as the movies he made, which did become tailored to suit his affable natural persona. His earliest 2 or 3 showed harsher elements to 007s character and Moore is never entirely convincing in those scenes.
Dalton suffered from a Moore-hangover. Both his movies look like Moore suits altered to fit Dalton's form.
Brosnan isn't bad; it's the films I have an issue with. Lazenby has the reverse problem; his movie is excellent but every now and then he's just a bit below par. Neither actor is terrible.
I like both Connery and Craig, but sometimes I wish Connery (esp in YOLT & DAF) could serious it up a bit, and I wish Craig would lighten up a lot.

Missed opportunities? Lewis Collins or Sam Neill in 1983.

blueman

Fassbender would be great right now, but probably not in 5-6 years when Craig is done with the role.

Just watched "Black Death," and the mousy monk who takes a dark turn towards the end struck me as somebody who might mature into contention in 5-6 years, Eddie Redmayne, link to pic is here.

Blackleiter

You're kidding, right? April Fools Day? Otherwise you might as well suggest Daniel Radcliffe!!!!

blueman wrote:

Fassbender would be great right now, but probably not in 5-6 years when Craig is done with the role.

Just watched "Black Death," and the mousy monk who takes a dark turn towards the end struck me as somebody who might mature into contention in 5-6 years, Eddie Redmayne, link to pic is here.