timouthy dalton better then moore?

James Suzuki

i used to think moore was the best bond after seeing FYEO. But the two first ones, weren't bond. Then after much reluctance i watched license to kill, i really enjoyed it! who said it was bad! I then got the living daylights, out and enjoyed that. What do you think of daltons? better then moore. Surely not as good as connery.

Tilly Masterson 007

I prefer Dalton as Bond, simply because he was serious & a no nonsense type of character.

I did like Moore's portrayal too but felt that most of the time he was a little too comedic for my liking - but still a good Bond on the whole! -{

thesecretagent

I like Dalton more than Roger Moore. He played it straighter, had a bigger presence on the screen. Atrocious weapon handling skills though.
"Hi Tim, here's a gun... You know which end to hold?"
"No."
"This end... And ACTION!" )

DEFIANT 74205

Absolutely. Not even a close comparison. Dalton was miles ahead of Moore.

mrbain007

I like them both but personally I prefer Moore slightly (although I know he wasn't Fleming's Bond). The main reason I like him a little better is because he had wit and a twinkle you couldn't help but admire. I'd argue that the films and the books have different identities and wit/humour have become something important in the films (ironically it was Connery that started the humour). This was an asset that Dalton never quite had.

However, as I said, I like them both and I admire Dalton for his more serious approach but I think there needs to be a certain element of fantasy to Bond (it was there in the novels - albeit in a less extreme way). It was present in Moore's Bond but not so much in Dalton.

Neither were as good as Connery or Brosnan however

Blackleiter

No contest, really. Dalton was a far better Bond than Moore. In fact, every other actor who played Bond was better than Moore, including George Lazenby. And it's not only because Moore added an element of humor to the Bond films. As someone remarked earlier, Connery had his share of humorous moments, and so did Brosnan. But Connery and Brosnan were extremely adept at combining the humorous and the serious sides of Bond. Timothy Dalton's portaryal of Bond, on the other hand, was almost completely devoid of humor. That is also true with respect to Daniel Craig. Still, in my view the no-nonsense, serious Bond is without a doubt preferable to Moore's jokey, fey incarnation of 007, and Dalton was a terrific Bond in his two appearances.

mrbain007

"As someone remarked earlier, Connery had his share of humorous moments, and so did Brosnan. But Connery and Brosnan were extremely adept at combining the humorous and the serious sides of Bond".

Thats why I think those 2 are the best Bonds for the silver screen. They have a good balance of audience pleasing wit and Fleming-esque seriousness.

Although I personally prefer RM SLIGHTLY I think TD is the more faithful Bond to the novels. Certainly his style holds up better today. I just don't quite think he had that "verve" factor. Funnily enough Mr Connery commented on that:

"Timothy Dalton has Shakespearean training, but he underestimated the role. The character has to be graceful and move well and have a certain measure of charm as well as be dangerous".

I think TD was too "serious" whilst Roger was too "light". I suppose Rog just had a little bit more charm to me.

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Thunderpussy

Much as I like Sir Roger,Dalton was Better, closer to the Bond of the Novels But a little too serious and seemed (to me at least ) to move a little arkwardly in the fight scenes.

mrbain007

I suppose you can like both Moore and Dalton for different reasons.

Moore for his wit and Dalton for his desire to take Bond back to its roots.

Paperbill

I do not like Dalton, Moore by far

Sidewinder

Dalton by far. More serious and tougher. Showed more anger...

Higgins

I don't know this Timouthy guy, but prefer Moore over Dalton any day!

IMHO Dalton is the least credible and weakest Bond who pretends to be "hard-edged" but isn't at all.

Napoleon Plural

Bondtoys wrote:

IMHO Dalton is the least credible and weakest Bond who pretends to be "hard-edged" but isn't at all.

Higgins

Sidewinder wrote:

Dalton by far
...... Showed more anger...

.... and more tears...

James Suzuki

Where did you get that photo? ha ha ha

Number24

I like Dalton far better. Moore carried 007 through the 70's and earliy 80's and his Bond was popular then. But he wasn't good at action and was far too comedic. You could believe in Dalton's Bond and 007 got the sense of danger back.

Thunderpussy

I agree Mumber24, I remember watching TLD after years of Sir Roger, and it was great to see Dalton hanging of the landrover and not have everthing as back projection. The sence of Danger with a slightly "Darker" take on Bond that was refreshing. -{

Agent Sidewinder

Roger Moore tried and succeeded at being a more light-hearted Bond. Timothy Dalton tried and failed at being a Flemingesque Bond. Also, Dalton's best (TND) isn't as good as Moore's best (TSWLM, MR) while his worst (LTK) is worse than Moore's worst (LALD, TMWTGG).

Moore wins.

sambwoy

Both had strengths. TLD was if nothing else at least refreshing from the humour of Moore's later films. Well, really Moonraker or perhaps TMWTGG was the film where the humour reached its peak. I don't think it is as rampant in AVTAK as people remember.

But I have also often thought that LTK took Bond to the other greater extremity of being down-to-earth and grittier. In the realm of Bond, you could say that its controversial somewhat, but tame compared to other films or film series in terms of violence etc.

Napoleon Plural

Agent Sidewinder wrote:

Timothy Dalton tried and failed at being a Flemingesque Bond. Also, Dalton's best (TND) isn't as good as Moore's best...

Dalton in TND? Actually that's a film I'd like to see, his brooding presence up against smarmy Elliot.

Know what? I wouldnt mind slipping LTK into the DVD now... that's if I had it of course. It was below part but somehow more straightforward than today's media franchise boosts.

DanielCraig007

Dalton of course. He deserved a few more bond films. Whilst Moore should have stopped with MR.
FYEO would have been perfect for Dalton. :007)

Napoleon Plural

"Well! We could go on like this all day...."

Q and M

how did dalton fail at being a flemingesque type of bond? he is quite simply the best

Higgins

IF's Bond never cried....

It's that simple. And now watch TD after Saunder's death when popping the balloon ( I thought, that THAT'S the most violent that he could do )

Agent Sidewinder

Q and M wrote:

how did dalton fail at being a flemingesque type of bond? he is quite simply the best

Simply the best? Simply the best Welshman to play Bond, I'll give him that.

Getting to your question, I don't see Fleming-Bond as the type of 'brooder' Dalton portrayed. The critic who described Dalton-Bond as 'a candidate for the psychiatrist's couch was right, I think - but does the literary Bond, YOLT and early TMWTGG excepted, really fall under that description? I put it to you that he does not. Timbo's performance seems more cut more for Bruce Wayne/Batman than it does for Bond.

I think Dalton tried to portray Fleming's 007 as *he* interpreted it - a burnt-out fatalist - but that interpretation isn't concordant with others, mine included.

Higgins

xboy614 wrote:

Where did you get that photo? ha ha ha

I use it as a dartboard