Thunderball Style Sunglasses

mailedfist

Just found this website for Connery style sunglasses - they ship to the U.S. too


http://www.themovieshop.com/Thunderball-Style-Sunglasses

Double-0-7

They also have the QOS Tom Ford copy for $33:
http://www.themovieshop.com/James-Bond-Sunglasses-Quantum-Of-Solace-Sunglasses-Daniel-Craig-Sunglasses

Donald Grant

Woa, that's very cool for the Thunderball sunglasses. Thanks for posting it.

DG

Double-oh nine

mailedfist wrote:

Just found this website for Connery style sunglasses - they ship to the U.S. too


http://www.themovieshop.com/Thunderball-Style-Sunglasses

For those interested, I am working out a suitable repro model of the Thunderball Sunglasses, hopefully available next year, in limited quantities to ABJ members.

Higgins

Fake James Bond glasses? Really????

Thunderpussy

Link has been taken down ? Did Higgins complain ? Has he that kind of power ?
)

ACACIA_AVENUE

Thunderpussy wrote:

Link has been taken down ? Did Higgins complain ? Has he that kind of power ?
)

Some say 'The Hig' has unknown powers to man, but for all these powers, he has never been able to shed a tear

Thunderpussy

) " With great power comes, great responsibility !"
I hope he's not a supervillain, in the making ! )

ACACIA_AVENUE

Rumour has it he comes from the planet 'Rolexus' and was banished for his inappropriate footwear

Higgins

It has been off before I posted my comment

But the context was enough to set off my fake-o-meter

Westward_Drift

The direct links don't work, but the sunglasses are still there. Just use the menu to go to men's sunglasses , then the sub-menu for movies and tv, and then choose Thunderball or another of the listed Bond films.

Gadget Meister

This must be a queue for the Asp to turn up and stir the Higgins pot :v

MFisher

I think the knock off stuff has its place in the collecting world.. and to scoff at it is really edging towards a slight level of arrogance.. I own a pair of the CR Persols.. (not the tortoise shell version but the others.. but my nerd streak isn't deep enough to recall the actual model # ) ) Also have a pair of the TF Marko's... Wish I had picked up the QOS TF glasses at the time they were widely available.. but didn't... Something like these would be good to fill in simply because I like the look of that frame.. plus when wearing these at work I won't be devastated when they get damaged... Considering the nose pad fell off the Markos I own and I cant seem to find a replacement.. kind of backs up my personal reasoning to look at this kind of option.. I get it that the knock off stuff with unlicensed brand names on them is questionable.. but something like this is just a replica of a style... Do the replica QOS jackets or CR Madagascar shirts sound familair ? Same concept... but anyhoo... just my thoughts.. and on the internet that amounts to a bunch of nothing..

Higgins

It may sound like arrogance to you - but collecting James Bond was to me always more than a certain looks.

Bond in the books and on the screen prefers certain items for certain reasons - but mostly these reasons is not the looks.

Let's take the Sea Island Cotton shirts: You can rip of almost every shape and make a white or blue shirt in the way of the novels. But the feel, the performance and durability of the real deal - you will never experience!

So you limit yourself only to one of your senses - your eyes!

With most items that Bond uses - there is a background story (so why Connery wore Saville Road suits or smoked Moreland cigarettes), so ripping them visually off without all these little additional details does not make sense to me.

Using replica (luxury/clothing/accessories) items just to achieve a certain look is just show-off imo.

Now we can argue if the TF sunglasses are really premium in quality (they are not!) - but buying replica sunglasses and eventually wearing them in the sun - ruining your retina is the worst of choice that you can make.

The real deals don't cost the world and the overall experience is so much better compared to with all these lookalike ripoff items.

A very different thing are prop replica imo because they mostly don't exist in the real world an are not luxury products with all the traditional and handcraft-art background.

Thunderpussy

I'm not a collector, so my opinion isn't all that important, but I have
To say I'd never thought of it that way, and can see your point. Higgins -{

Higgins

:v you are trying everything to become a friend of mine, TP?

Not gonna happen!

Thunderpussy

Damn, I'll have to put the champagne away again, and blow out the
Scented candles. )

Double-oh nine

Higgins wrote:

It may sound like arrogance to you - but collecting James Bond was to me always more than a certain looks.

Bond in the books and on the screen prefers certain items for certain reasons - but mostly these reasons is not the looks.

Let's take the Sea Island Cotton shirts: You can rip of almost every shape and make a white or blue shirt in the way of the novels. But the feel, the performance and durability of the real deal - you will never experience!

So you limit yourself only to one of your senses - your eyes!

With most items that Bond uses - there is a background story (so why Connery wore Saville Road suits or smoked Moreland cigarettes), so ripping them visually off without all these little additional details does not make sense to me.

Using replica items just to achieve a certain look is just show-off imo.

Now we can argue if the TF sunglasses are really premium in quality (they are not!) - but buying replica sunglasses and eventually wearing them in the sun - ruining your retina is the worst of choice that you can make.

The real deals don't cost the world and the overall experience is so much better compared to with all these lookalike ripoff items.

A very different thing are prop replica imo because they mostly don't exist in the real world an are not luxury products with all the traditional and handcraft-art background.

"May SOUND like arrogance?? My dear sir, we are all cork sniffers here of the first water. The fact that some collect toys(my first introduction to Bond gear) while a lucky few actually drive an Aston Martin, has little to do with collecting valdity. Into each Bond collection, a private museum is commissioned. While I agree with you that cheap, knock off sunglasses are laughable, a proper repro, made in Italy with UV coated lenses, with regard to OEM detail, would hardly be a cheap imitation. All the worlds museums depend on repro bones to preserve original examples for future study. Sure, I think it's great when a collector scores an original prop at auction for a small fortune. Nonethless, I have only the greatest respect for the makers of imitation FRWL Briefcases, SPECTRE rings, and a tribute to the Berns-Martin shoulder holster. The fact that many of the Bond film props are not available, makes for amazing creativity I think. I hope that one day I can afford a Rolex Daytona, but I likely never will. As Americans, we buy PPK's easily, while they are nearly impossible to own in the Uk. In such geographical terms, a so called fake is a work of art.

Higgins

I was hoping that I made clear that imo there is a HUGE difference between a one-off movie prop (FRWL attache) and a replica shirt/suit/sunglasses/etc. while the real deal is still available.

MFisher

"available" is also a tricky word though… I was fortunate enough to pick up the Skyfall jackets.. The Barbour, The Billy Reid, and the Levis Menlo… And I am pleased with the purchases.. However not everyone can drop the funds on those, so a "close enough" jacket would suffice for them.. because.. gasp… they like the look and style of the character.. I'd love to have an Omega.. but dropping a few grand on a watch just isn't in the cards on a cop's salary.. I wear a similar looking Invicta.. (because again, when it gets banged up at work.. who cares)… Point being.. not all collectors and enthusiasts have disposable income to blow on a shirt or a watch or a pair of glasses.. A person's financial status doesn't have to be a barrier to collecting or enjoying the style.. And passing judgement on those who may not be able to afford an item when the "real deal" is still available is.. well… arrogant.. 8-) (Anyone ever watch the Bond on a budget videos ?!?)

Higgins

Why paying over $10 for a dinner when I can get a full belly at McD?

You and me have very different opinions re. our consume behavior.
Why the need to have so many soulless ripoffs instead of saving up for one or 2 selected items.

At the end of the day, you are ending up with a closet full of ripped-off crap instead of owning 2 or 3 selected pieces with a soul from the original creator.

The "no money" argument is always there when it comes to fakes.
- Why do you think it's appropriate just to steal designs from the original creator just because you don't have the money to buy the real item?*
- If you invented something - what would be your position re. people ripping off YOUR OWN design?
- Who's worse - the one who's ripping off the design or the one who supports that behavior by buying these items?
- And at the end of the day, you are only showing off something which it isn't when using all these fakes.

*Isn't that a bit the position of a burglar that breaks into a home and takes what he "can't afford"?


Not sure which position is more arrogant

Peppermill

Higgins wrote:

- Why do you think it's appropriate just to steal designs from the original creator just because you don't have the money to buy the real item?*

(...)

*Isn't that a bit the position of a burglar that breaks into a home and takes what

I'm just responding to this point in your argument because I think there is a gigantic difference between buying a replica (really fake) or a similar design from a different brand. As far as I can see there are no fake brandnames on the sunglasses so they are not trying to sell cheap knock offs as real Ray Bans, Tom Fords or Persols. Anyone with half an eye will be able to see the difference between the two. This is a big difference from selling fake Rolex or Omega watches, or fake clothing.
When talking about stealing designs, it is not like Tom Ford created/designed the Aviator sunglasses or the Harrington Jacket. Nor did Sunspel design the polo shirt. And Billy Reed really didn’t come up with the peacoat right?

So long story short, IMHO there is a difference between buying something that is in the same style of a Bond item like a nice polo shirt, a great fitting Harrington jacket from an established brand like Ben Sherman or Baracuta (I believe the G4 to be the ‘original’ that Tom Ford blatantly ripped off for QoS ) or a 60 years old navy peacoat. Or to take this one further, a Invicta diver that doesn’t claim to be a Rolex but still looks a bit like one. And buying something that is really fake while claiming to be real.

Whether someone really wants to wear a pair of $ 30,- sunglasses on a daily basis is another story )

See, I was able to write all this without using the word arrogant -{

MFisher

I would hardly refer to products like the ties or cufflinks offered by members here like Magnoli as "soulless ripoffs".. I can still purchase the St Dupont cufflinks for a mere $545 right now on ebay..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AUTHENTIC-S-T-DUPONT-JAMES-BOND-007-CASINO-ROYALE-CUFFLINKS-/181409587866?pt=US_Mens_Jewelry&hash=item2a3cdaa29a

Or get Magnoli's for $40.. Its a cuff link.. seriously.. a cuff… link… It's not like comparing sea island cotton to cotton bought at a discount store.. there's a clear tangible difference in feel and appearance for that.. agreed.. but something like a cufflink ? And a guy like Magnoli does a good job of offering decent items at reasonable prices.. He's a good guy… To insinuate he and others who offer similar choices (The QOS Harrington etc) are peddling "soulless ripoffs" is not only arrogant.. it's insulting.. I'm sure he and the others who have filled the gap for collectors on a reasonable budget appreciate the elitist commentary..

The burglar analogy is simply ignorant.. Stealing something and paying less for something are not even comparable acts.. It's right up there with your brilliant McD comparison.. Obviously we will agree to disagree..

Gadget Meister

The Asp has to be on vacation, or he has lost internet

Higgins

Peppermill wrote:

As far as I can see there are no fake brandnames on the sunglasses so they are not trying to sell cheap knock offs as real Ray Bans, Tom Fords or Persols.

The webpage has a "James Bond" section and relates the fakes to the movie - so we are not talking about a "similar design"

Higgins

MFisher wrote:

I would hardly refer to products like the ties or cufflinks offered by members here like Magnoli as "soulless ripoffs".. I can still purchase the St Dupont cufflinks for a mere $545 right now on ebay..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AUTHENTIC-S-T-DUPONT-JAMES-BOND-007-CASINO-ROYALE-CUFFLINKS-/181409587866?pt=US_Mens_Jewelry&hash=item2a3cdaa29a

Or get Magnoli's for $40.. Its a cuff link.. seriously.. a cuff… link… It's not like comparing sea island cotton to cotton bought at a discount store.. there's a clear tangible difference in feel and appearance for that.. agreed.. but something like a cufflink ? And a guy like Magnoli does a good job of offering decent items at reasonable prices.. He's a good guy… To insinuate he and others who offer similar choices (The QOS Harrington etc) are peddling "soulless ripoffs" is not only arrogant.. it's insulting.. I'm sure he and the others who have filled the gap for collectors on a reasonable budget appreciate the elitist commentary..

The burglar analogy is simply ignorant.. Stealing something and paying less for something are not even comparable acts.. It's right up there with your brilliant McD comparison.. Obviously we will agree to disagree..

Arrogant - ignorant-elitist. Must be great to throw around those names

The burglar analogy is a bit stronger, but it serves to make the point clear:

Stealing intellectual property is poor and a crime - and I am including Magnoli here!
Magnolis webpage and product names refer to the heroes and the movies, so please don't tell me that it's lifestyle influenced stuff.

IMO, it does not make much of a difference if you buy bootleged software , media or fake clothing.
And I draw the line between a fashion (not every blue Poloshirt with a pocket is a Sunspel fake) - but if you are listing such an item with "Casino Royale" or James Bond" there is hardly a conincidence.

If you think, that it's ok to buy stolen stuff just because you don't have the money - you as a copper know what it means.

Higgins

Gadget Meister wrote:

The Asp has to be on vacation, or he has lost internet

You may be surprised, Andy. Asp9mm will be sharing most of my thoughts {[]

MFisher

If you think, that it's ok to buy stolen stuff just because you don't have the money - you as a copper know what it means.

Having been a "copper" for 12 years.. As well as having attended law school.. I definitely know when someone tries to talk about law who is absolutely clueless as to how those areas of law actually work..

Arrogant - ignorant-elitist. Must be great to throw around those names

Soulless - thief - burglar…… (while we are pointing fingers at throwing around names)..

In the end I just think it is sad that a board dedicated to enthusiasts.. people who enjoy a character, which brings about an interest in style.. Would allow out right snobbery directed at those who simply don't have disposable income to throw at essentially a nerd obsession… You can argue your end all day, but fact of the matter is not every member here can afford original makes of clothing or accessories, so the majority of us commoners do still find some satisfaction in affordable "close enoughs".. The issue here is an overt judgement cast on those who would dare sink to a reasonable decision to perhaps save some of their income to make a purchase that fills a want (not a need) and yet satisfies the desire… There is a difference is using a word such as "arrogance".. which refers to a line of thinking wherein one possesses an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people… As in, I can afford an Omega etc.. shame on you for not saving your money to buy one and buying a soulless rip off such as an Invicta… As opposed to accusing members such as Magnoli or Silverfinger as being thieves and burglars for ripping off the original makers… Anyhoo….. I sometimes question why I even bother to engage in such discussions… In the end I fully realize that no matter what I say on this issue.. There will always be those who simply believe they hold some higher authority.. Reality is, that buried behind a keyboard and thousands of miles of distance.. everyone believes they are an expert and that they are correct..

In the end.. I love both of my Invicta watches.. One of which my wife bought for me on a trip to the Bahamas.. The Magnoli ties and cufflinks I own.. love them.. And to be honest, if I owned original TF or (insert absurdly expensive brand here) items.. I do not believe I would hold a higher appreciation for them.. In fact I would feel like I seriously pissed away a hell of a lot of money if I dropped a few hundred bucks on a tie.. or a set of cufflinks… Just to possess the "brand-name".. To me that aligns with an insecurity some possess wherein they feel like their character or self worth is defined by the labels they wear… And that comes down to where we draw the line at the concept of value.. Recently I heard a radio piece about some new designer handbag that costs around $200k… A freakin' hand bag.. Celebrities will drop more money on a handbag more expensive than many average people spend on their home.. because they can… Do I find it absurd.. sure… Does that matter ? No….

Only point I was trying to make was that those who gather on this board share a genuine fascination with the story of James Bond… And those who zero in on the collecting and clothing page of this board enjoy the idea of owning or collecting pieces of clothing or accessories that kindle a sense of association with the character… Some of us are seriously "off the reservation" obsessed with the concept of collecting - wherein every piece we own MUST be the exact brand, model etc… Some of us are OK with picking up a pair of ivory colored jeans, a dark polo and a pair of aviators and deep inside we are associating that "look" or "style" with Bond in Haiti.. But maybe couldn't afford or couldn't track down the original labels.. But regardless, we still enjoy it..

Tell you what… As a parting shot I do believe the sole common ground we may be able to find is that we do seriously enjoy the world of Bond… period.. we love the adventure.. we love the suspension of disbelief.. the women.. the gadgets.. the cars.. the style… But when the paycheck drops twice a month.. I'll be perusing the likes of Magnoli for ties or accessories etc…. Feel free to drop your well earned dough on whatever floats your boat… But neither of us is necessarily "right" or "wrong"… unless we do, in fact break the law.. and unfortunately for your argument.. Magnoli and the likes have NOT..

Barbel

Enough now. This is getting personal. Take this to PMs if you have to.

Gadget Meister

As do I Markus, but that wouldn't stop him taking the p1ss were he here

Matt S

Higgins, you could effectively call many Tom Ford designs knock-offs. Remember the sunglasses in Quantum of Solace that everyone thought were by Oliver Peoples? Tom Ford copied their design. You could say he stole Oliver Peoples' intellectual property. Many of Tom Fords suits (but not ones James Bond has worn) are copies of Tommy Nutter's style. I've never seen a replica suit on here that looked anywhere close to the original, but I don't think that someone's design is being stolen unless the actual pattern for the original suit was stolen. Fashion designers copy each others ideas all the time, and that's how we get fashion trends. Pretty much every suit sold ready-to-wear today was inspired by Hedi Slimane's undersized suits he designed for Dior. If you want a cheap tailor to copy the Skyfall suit, it's as simple as getting a button three suit with straight shoulders, slightly slanted side pockets, a single vent made to fit a smaller man than the person wearing the suit. Tom Ford doesn't own a patent to that style, nor did he invent the style. He didn't invent any of the designs of his that James Bond has worn. Copying Bond's cufflinks and ties is a little different, but as long as they aren't misrepresented as copies I don't see a problem with it. Many of the Tom Ford Bond ties are simply classic ties that go back much farther than Tom Ford's career.