You guys do no how Fleming reacted to Connery right? From face value he wanted Roger to play Bond. In a an autobiography of Fleming I read it stated that in Flemings point of view Bond was a tight-faced man, he didn't have many wrinkles, thats how he saw himself and thats how he pictured Bond.
And I think that given a few years and some dedication to the role Cavill can pull it off, as we've seen before with Craig. out of pure determination and dedication a man that looked liked Craig in 2005, who had me worried, changed and became Bond. Why can't Cavill do that? Sure right now he's a pretty boy but, theres unseen potential there to become Bond for him too.
And I'm not exactly taking any sides in this post, just displaying the facts overtly. And at this time, as long as Barbara Broccoli's on the helm it seems more probable that Cavill will be Bond #7.
Craig pre-Bond 2005
I have always suspected that a little 'work' was done as the transformation was so marked.
Craig post Bond
I don't agree that any work was done - the first picture was taken pre 2005 and the second one 2009 at the earliest... in fact prob more like early 2010 - that's almost 5 years. And the styling is so completley different - he has sideburns for starters in the first one.... and a hair cut of that difference can change the entire face - which it has, as it's amplified his cheek bones, and those amazing eyes.....
The first pic was taken post Munich - (sideburns abound in the 1970's.... ) and the second photo was a publicity photo for QoS - which are two very different styles of films.....
In fact, he has even quoted “It’s tricky, it really is, because no-one likes to get old and sag. People can improve themselves when they are younger, but when you’re 60 or 70, you start looking like a freak." Although what people say, and what they do can be two completley different things )
Im not saying that he got any work done, I'm just saying that once he inhabited the role his looks changed and maybe Cavill could do the same.
And Bond is 6 feet not 6'1 read the books Zaphod.
"I take a ridiculous pleasure in what I eat and drink."
You guys do no how Fleming reacted to Connery right? From face value he wanted Roger to play Bond. In a an autobiography of Fleming I read it stated that in Flemings point of view Bond was a tight-faced man, he didn't have many wrinkles, thats how he saw himself and thats how he pictured Bond.
And I think that given a few years and some dedication to the role Cavill can pull it off, as we've seen before with Craig. out of pure determination and dedication a man that looked liked Craig in 2005, who had me worried, changed and became Bond. Why can't Cavill do that? Sure right now he's a pretty boy but, theres unseen potential there to become Bond for him too.
And I'm not exactly taking any sides in this post, just displaying the facts overtly. And at this time, as long as Barbara Broccoli's on the helm it seems more probable that Cavill will be Bond #7.
Craig pre-Bond 2005
I have always suspected that a little 'work' was done as the transformation was so marked.
Craig post Bond
I don't agree that any work was done - the first picture was taken pre 2005 and the second one 2009 at the earliest... in fact prob more like early 2010 - that's almost 5 years. And the styling is so completley different - he has sideburns for starters in the first one.... and a hair cut of that difference can change the entire face - which it has, as it's amplified his cheek bones, and those amazing eyes.....
The first pic was taken post Munich - (sideburns abound in the 1970's.... ) and the second photo was a publicity photo for QoS - which are two very different styles of films.....
In fact, he has even quoted “It’s tricky, it really is, because no-one likes to get old and sag. People can improve themselves when they are younger, but when you’re 60 or 70, you start looking like a freak." Although what people say, and what they do can be two completley different things )
Just wondering if the second photo is publicity photo for QOS which was made and premiered in 2008 then surely that was when the photo was taken and not 2009 or 2010 as you suggest.
I do not wish to sound picky but surely Iam right on that one.
Admittedly he does look like a ex forces cum hitman in the second photo, a gay russian one[ anyone seen Rocknrolla].
I am 6 feet tall and I think its a perfect height for Bond :007)
It is really. Besides, most leading men today on film are around that height or slightly smaller. What's interesting note that the tall guys really are on televison these days. At least in the case in the USA.
I watched Cavill in Whatever Works this year and he's very handsome and seems to have some charm about him. It just depends on whether or not EON want to go back to a more traditional Bond or cast another offbeat bruiser in the vein of Craig. It would sort of make sense to have a Cavill type next and inject a bit more panache to counter the grumbles that Bond was becoming too generic a character with QOS.
Since Alessandra is so passionate about Henry Cavill, and because I have come to respect her opinion after reading some of her thoughtful posts, I took a look at some clips of Cavill's work. In addition to his looks, which I know get a BIG thumbs up from Alessandra, I think he could have what it takes to be a credible Bond. His acting seems solid, especially in The Tudors, and it appears that he would be able to pull of the charm and the menance that I believe are essential to 007's character. But I would agree with those who suggest that he could benefit from a few more years to mature into the role. I felt the same way about Pierce Brosnan when he almost won the role after Roger Moore stepped down. I could see his potential, but I thought he was too young (and skinny) in his Remington Steele days. I really enjoyed Pierce when he debuted in Goldeneye, and I believe the extra years (and pounds) paid off. In my opinion, Brosnan was a fine Bond who was let down by weak scripts. So give Cavill a little time and he could be the one. But I must part company with my dear Alessandra when it comes to Daniel Craig. I would love to see him do another Bond film or two. His take on the character has been interesting, and although it took me a while to get used to his looks, by the time he appeared in QOS, what I saw onscreen was Agent 007, not just a blonde, slightly thuggish-looking actor. I guess that's a testament to Craig acting skills. I'm not going to say that Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery, because in my opinion no one has come close to putting all of the right elements together as well as Sir Sean. But Craig is very good, and perhaps Henry Cavill will ultimately take the role and step it up a notch. We'll see.
Since Alessandra is so passionate about Henry Cavill, and because I have come to respect her opinion after reading some of her thoughtful posts, I took a look at some clips of Cavill's work. In addition to his looks, which I know get a BIG thumbs up from Alessandra, I think he could have what it takes to be a credible Bond. His acting seems solid, especially in The Tudors, and it appears that he would be able to pull of the charm and the menance that I believe are essential to 007's character. But I would agree with those who suggest that he could benefit from a few more years to mature into the role. I felt the same way about Pierce Brosnan when he almost won the role after Roger Moore stepped down. I could see his potential, but I thought he was too young (and skinny) in his Remington Steele days. I really enjoyed Pierce when he debuted in Goldeneye, and I believe the extra years (and pounds) paid off. In my opinion, Brosnan was a fine Bond who was let down by weak scripts. So give Cavill a little time and he could be the one. But I must part company with my dear Alessandra when it comes to Daniel Craig. I would love to see him do another Bond film or two. His take on the character has been interesting, and although it took me a while to get used to his looks, by the time he appeared in QOS, what I saw onscreen was Agent 007, not just a blonde, slightly thuggish-looking actor. I guess that's a testament to Craig acting skills. I'm not going to say that Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery, because in my opinion no one has come close to putting all of the right elements together as well as Sir Sean. But Craig is very good, and perhaps Henry Cavill will ultimately take the role and step it up a notch. We'll see.
BlackLeiter, first off thank you for your kindness and your politeness, and of course the respect is absolutely mutual. I'm glad you took a look at Cavill's work and find him adequate for the role. I do think he'd do a very good Bond. Looks, attitude, style and he's a good actor. I am not advocating him at all costs for Bond 23, I think Craig so to speak "deserves" a chance to do a final one and have a "trilogy" in a way. So I think if Craig does 23, that Cavill will be perfect for the following one. I say this considering they should get 23 in theaters in 2012. If that doesn't happen by 2012, then I believe Cavill (or whoever else they pick) can step in at any time.
It's more than fine to have differing opinions, otherwise it would get quite boring, right? ) I'm glad you got to enjoy Craig, I unfortunately don't, but that doesn't mean I can't be happy for those who do, and I mean those who do so in an intelligent way. This is, after all, a franchise and it needs fans to go on, so if nobody liked Craig, it would have been a major problem. I think it's also not necessarily wrong to make this or the other "faction" of fans happy alternatively. Which means, my turn now ) )
I'm really glad you took time to check out Cavill's work and found it adequate for him to be Bond though, and I thank you for having trusted my opinion on it!
I am of course not saying that 6'1 would or should rule Cavill out, just that it does nothing to strengthen his case. DC is considerably shorter than Cavill, and although far from an/ (my)ideal Bond but on balance still has more toughness than Cavill exhibits yet, and yes I have seen the Tudors. Also his voice sounds a little fey to me, and DC has the best Bond voice of all so far in my view.
6'1 is plenty tall for Bond. Bond is supposed to be 6 ft. So Cavill is actually taller than necessary. And, I know of no man who is 6 ft 1 who enters a room and disappears ) 6 ft 1 is tall, and noticeable. Especially with a built physique like Henry Cavill's. Not to mention his looks. ;%
Now about the voice... what? that is one of his best features! I have friends who want to marry him for the voice alone ) And I'm very serious on this. There's absolutely nothing fey about it. It's a very deep, masculine voice. It's one of the things that adds to his charm. And one of the things that makes him perfect for Bond :007)
I watched Cavill in Whatever Works this year and he's very handsome and seems to have some charm about him. It just depends on whether or not EON want to go back to a more traditional Bond or cast another offbeat bruiser in the vein of Craig. It would sort of make sense to have a Cavill type next and inject a bit more panache to counter the grumbles that Bond was becoming too generic a character with QOS.
Agreed. And hi there! Long time no see!! We always had the same approach to the "problem", so I'm not surprised we agree
"Are we on coms?" (if you don't know where this is from... you've missed some really good stuff! )
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^ I agree completely with BlackLeiter!
"I take a ridiculous pleasure in what I eat and drink."
There's a simple reason why Cavill should never be Bond.
The truth is, when I see him, it's like looking in a mirror. Basically, he looks exactly like me. Personally, I want a Bond who looks different, as it gets a bit spooky otherwise.
(You can PM me Al'. easyJet are doing cheap flights to London this time of year, if you hurry.... )
Since Alessandra is so passionate about Henry Cavill, and because I have come to respect her opinion after reading some of her thoughtful posts, I took a look at some clips of Cavill's work. In addition to his looks, which I know get a BIG thumbs up from Alessandra, I think he could have what it takes to be a credible Bond. His acting seems solid, especially in The Tudors, and it appears that he would be able to pull of the charm and the menance that I believe are essential to 007's character. But I would agree with those who suggest that he could benefit from a few more years to mature into the role. I felt the same way about Pierce Brosnan when he almost won the role after Roger Moore stepped down. I could see his potential, but I thought he was too young (and skinny) in his Remington Steele days. I really enjoyed Pierce when he debuted in Goldeneye, and I believe the extra years (and pounds) paid off. In my opinion, Brosnan was a fine Bond who was let down by weak scripts. So give Cavill a little time and he could be the one. But I must part company with my dear Alessandra when it comes to Daniel Craig. I would love to see him do another Bond film or two. His take on the character has been interesting, and although it took me a while to get used to his looks, by the time he appeared in QOS, what I saw onscreen was Agent 007, not just a blonde, slightly thuggish-looking actor. I guess that's a testament to Craig acting skills. I'm not going to say that Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery, because in my opinion no one has come close to putting all of the right elements together as well as Sir Sean. But Craig is very good, and perhaps Henry Cavill will ultimately take the role and step it up a notch. We'll see.
BlackLeiter, first off thank you for your kindness and your politeness, and of course the respect is absolutely mutual. I'm glad you took a look at Cavill's work and find him adequate for the role. I do think he'd do a very good Bond. Looks, attitude, style and he's a good actor. I am not advocating him at all costs for Bond 23, I think Craig so to speak "deserves" a chance to do a final one and have a "trilogy" in a way. So I think if Craig does 23, that Cavill will be perfect for the following one. I say this considering they should get 23 in theaters in 2012. If that doesn't happen by 2012, then I believe Cavill (or whoever else they pick) can step in at any time.
It's more than fine to have differing opinions, otherwise it would get quite boring, right? ) I'm glad you got to enjoy Craig, I unfortunately don't, but that doesn't mean I can't be happy for those who do, and I mean those who do so in an intelligent way. This is, after all, a franchise and it needs fans to go on, so if nobody liked Craig, it would have been a major problem. I think it's also not necessarily wrong to make this or the other "faction" of fans happy alternatively. Which means, my turn now ) )
I'm really glad you took time to check out Cavill's work and found it adequate for him to be Bond though, and I thank you for having trusted my opinion on it!
I am of course not saying that 6'1 would or should rule Cavill out, just that it does nothing to strengthen his case. DC is considerably shorter than Cavill, and although far from an/ (my)ideal Bond but on balance still has more toughness than Cavill exhibits yet, and yes I have seen the Tudors. Also his voice sounds a little fey to me, and DC has the best Bond voice of all so far in my view.
6'1 is plenty tall for Bond. Bond is supposed to be 6 ft. So Cavill is actually taller than necessary. And, I know of no man who is 6 ft 1 who enters a room and disappears ) 6 ft 1 is tall, and noticeable. Especially with a built physique like Henry Cavill's. Not to mention his looks. ;%
Now about the voice... what? that is one of his best features! I have friends who want to marry him for the voice alone ) And I'm very serious on this. There's absolutely nothing fey about it. It's a very deep, masculine voice. It's one of the things that adds to his charm. And one of the things that makes him perfect for Bond :007)
I watched Cavill in Whatever Works this year and he's very handsome and seems to have some charm about him. It just depends on whether or not EON want to go back to a more traditional Bond or cast another offbeat bruiser in the vein of Craig. It would sort of make sense to have a Cavill type next and inject a bit more panache to counter the grumbles that Bond was becoming too generic a character with QOS.
Agreed. And hi there! Long time no see!! We always had the same approach to the "problem", so I'm not surprised we agree
There's a simple reason why Cavill should never be Bond.
The truth is, when I see him, it's like looking in a mirror. Basically, he looks exactly like me. Personally, I want a Bond who looks different, as it gets a bit spooky otherwise.
(You can PM me Al'. easyJet are doing cheap flights to London this time of year, if you hurry.... )
My personal choice for James Bond would between Andy Whitfield or Mathew Marsden. I saw Marsden in Rambo but he didn't come off as overly butch or tough. I think if they cleaned up, he'd be a great Bond. Andy would be great too but sadly, he seems no condition to considering Bond.
Never seen him before, but your post prompted me to check him out. Great look, Taekwon-Do balck-belt, 62 plus,keen Diver...certainly sounds action man like. Reminded me of Lazenby (no bad thing in my book) Can he act ? and what is his voice like?
There's a simple reason why Cavill should never be Bond.
The truth is, when I see him, it's like looking in a mirror. Basically, he looks exactly like me. Personally, I want a Bond who looks different, as it gets a bit spooky otherwise.
(You can PM me Al'. easyJet are doing cheap flights to London this time of year, if you hurry.... )
OMG I had a Henry Cavill here and I never knew. I already booked my flight to London (first class, who do you think you're talking to? ) A Bond girl doesn't fly easyJet! Alitalia at the very least! Not that it offers better service ) )
Now, I can wear my 11 cm heels no problem since you're as tall as Henry. Swoooon. Get ready. )
This is you coming to get me at the airport by the way: Hello, Mr Bond. :007) :x :x
"Are we on coms?" (if you don't know where this is from... you've missed some really good stuff! )
My personal choice for James Bond would between Andy Whitfield or Mathew Marsden. I saw Marsden in Rambo but he didn't come off as overly butch or tough. I think if they cleaned up, he'd be a great Bond. Andy would be great too but sadly, he seems no condition to considering Bond.
Never seen him before, but your post prompted me to check him out. Great look, Taekwon-Do balck-belt, 62 plus,keen Diver...certainly sounds action man like. Reminded me of Lazenby (no bad thing in my book) Can he act ? and what is his voice like?
I thought Marsden is a pretty good actor. His voice could probably use some work. It's not fey or anything, but maybe he could sound a bit more like a gentleman.
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Since were throwing around names if Cavill isnt chosen Tom Hardy looks like a good Bond.
"I take a ridiculous pleasure in what I eat and drink."
He'd be a good choice too but I must admit, at 5'9 he's a tad short.
They said that about Craig too.
@Superdaddy by the way, scroll up and you'll see someone else discussing two other actors.
Yeah but he's even shorter than Craig. I think it's better if we'd stick to someone between 6'0 and 6'2.
At risk of incuring wrath I think that they are pretty much the same. Put 'celebrity heights' into google and you will see a lot of arguement that DC is 5ft9.5 at most and 5ft11 with lifts. Still dont find this chap 'Bondian' enough, a very good actor would make a great other 00, or even a baddie. All is conjecture though as I'm pretty convinced that DC will helm 23 and give his most complete and final performance.
There's a simple reason why Cavill should never be Bond.
The truth is, when I see him, it's like looking in a mirror. Basically, he looks exactly like me. Personally, I want a Bond who looks different, as it gets a bit spooky otherwise.
(You can PM me Al'. easyJet are doing cheap flights to London this time of year, if you hurry.... )
OMG I had a Henry Cavill here and I never knew. I already booked my flight to London (first class, who do you think you're talking to? ) A Bond girl doesn't fly easyJet! Alitalia at the very least! Not that it offers better service ) )
Now, I can wear my 11 cm heels no problem since you're as tall as Henry. Swoooon. Get ready. )
This is you coming to get me at the airport by the way: Hello, Mr Bond. :007) :x :x
Okay, that's a bit scary... X-( Why are you posting footage of me up on ajb, Al'? It's frankly a bit odd that you've been filming me without my permission.
Oh! Hang on, sorry, that's Mr Cavill. Yeah, okay, I get that a lot. You can see why he shouldn't be Bond.
Anyway, feel free to come over Al. Just one problem; there's a cash flow snag my end and the magazine hasn't come up with two month's wages. Seems I face eviction, I don't know what to do. I guess, you could always wire a few grand in cash, that way I can set you up in style and also pay you back asap. PM me.
I also have a Nigerian prince who's a friend of mine, he's in exile but he'd love to speak to you.
@Superdaddy by the way, scroll up and you'll see someone else discussing two other actors.
Yeah but he's even shorter than Craig. I think it's better if we'd stick to someone between 6'0 and 6'2.
At risk of incuring wrath I think that they are pretty much the same. Put 'celebrity heights' into google and you will see a lot of arguement that DC is 5ft9.5 at most and 5ft11 with lifts. Still dont find this chap 'Bondian' enough, a very good actor would make a great other 00, or even a baddie. All is conjecture though as I'm pretty convinced that DC will helm 23 and give his most complete and final performance.
IDK, Craig seems like 5'10 and probably no more. Could be wrong of course.
There's a simple reason why Cavill should never be Bond.
The truth is, when I see him, it's like looking in a mirror. Basically, he looks exactly like me. Personally, I want a Bond who looks different, as it gets a bit spooky otherwise.
(You can PM me Al'. easyJet are doing cheap flights to London this time of year, if you hurry.... )
OMG I had a Henry Cavill here and I never knew. I already booked my flight to London (first class, who do you think you're talking to? ) A Bond girl doesn't fly easyJet! Alitalia at the very least! Not that it offers better service ) )
Now, I can wear my 11 cm heels no problem since you're as tall as Henry. Swoooon. Get ready. )
This is you coming to get me at the airport by the way: Hello, Mr Bond. :007) :x :x
Okay, that's a bit scary... X-( Why are you posting footage of me up on ajb, Al'? It's frankly a bit odd that you've been filming me without my permission.
Oh! Hang on, sorry, that's Mr Cavill. Yeah, okay, I get that a lot. You can see why he shouldn't be Bond.
Anyway, feel free to come over Al. Just one problem; there's a cash flow snag my end and the magazine hasn't come up with two month's wages. Seems I face eviction, I don't know what to do. I guess, you could always wire a few grand in cash, that way I can set you up in style and also pay you back asap. PM me.
I also have a Nigerian prince who's a friend of mine, he's in exile but he'd love to speak to you.
I don't agree that any work was done - the first picture was taken pre 2005 and the second one 2009 at the earliest... in fact prob more like early 2010 - that's almost 5 years. And the styling is so completley different - he has sideburns for starters in the first one.... and a hair cut of that difference can change the entire face - which it has, as it's amplified his cheek bones, and those amazing eyes.....
The first pic was taken post Munich - (sideburns abound in the 1970's.... ) and the second photo was a publicity photo for QoS - which are two very different styles of films.....
In fact, he has even quoted “It’s tricky, it really is, because no-one likes to get old and sag. People can improve themselves when they are younger, but when you’re 60 or 70, you start looking like a freak." Although what people say, and what they do can be two completley different things )
Im not saying that he got any work done, I'm just saying that once he inhabited the role his looks changed and maybe Cavill could do the same.
And Bond is 6 feet not 6'1 read the books Zaphod.
No need to be terse Lexi. My point does not turn upon the specifics of 6ft or 6ft1. And for the record Fleming makes both statements in different texts. My point is the precise opposite , in as much as that all we can really take from Fleiming is that 'Bond is tall' which has countless confirmations in the Novels. We must interpret 'tall' as 'by the prevailing standards of the day' as what was 'tall' in 1953 patently is not so now. Therefore we need to adjust for 'height inflation' as people are taller now than when Fleming creted him. What is undeniable is the intention to make him significantly taller than average. Fleming clearly thought it important as it is stressed so often.
I don't agree that any work was done - the first picture was taken pre 2005 and the second one 2009 at the earliest... in fact prob more like early 2010 - that's almost 5 years. And the styling is so completley different - he has sideburns for starters in the first one.... and a hair cut of that difference can change the entire face - which it has, as it's amplified his cheek bones, and those amazing eyes.....
The first pic was taken post Munich - (sideburns abound in the 1970's.... ) and the second photo was a publicity photo for QoS - which are two very different styles of films.....
In fact, he has even quoted “It’s tricky, it really is, because no-one likes to get old and sag. People can improve themselves when they are younger, but when you’re 60 or 70, you start looking like a freak." Although what people say, and what they do can be two completley different things )
Im not saying that he got any work done, I'm just saying that once he inhabited the role his looks changed and maybe Cavill could do the same.
And Bond is 6 feet not 6'1 read the books Zaphod.
No need to be terse Lexi. My point does not turn upon the specifics of 6ft or 6ft1. And for the record Fleming makes both statements in different texts. My point is the precise opposite , in as much as that all we can really take from Fleiming is that 'Bond is tall' which has countless confirmations in the Novels. We must interpret 'tall' as 'by the prevailing standards of the day' as what was 'tall' in 1953 patently is not so now. Therefore we need to adjust for 'height inflation' as people are taller now than when Fleming creted him. What is undeniable is the intention to make him significantly taller than average. Fleming clearly thought it important as it is stressed so often.
Six foot would still be considered tall in America at least which the average height is 5 feet 10.
Tom Hardy has something about him, that said he's admitted to gay liaisons in the past (he's hetero practising now) I'm not sure how that would, ahem, go down...
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."
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Yea just heard of that, but that shouldnt really afect his performance. And atleast he's hetero now. But, noing that there'd probably be an eruption if he was chosen.
"I take a ridiculous pleasure in what I eat and drink."
I don't agree that any work was done - the first picture was taken pre 2005 and the second one 2009 at the earliest... in fact prob more like early 2010 - that's almost 5 years. And the styling is so completley different - he has sideburns for starters in the first one.... and a hair cut of that difference can change the entire face - which it has, as it's amplified his cheek bones, and those amazing eyes.....
The first pic was taken post Munich - (sideburns abound in the 1970's.... ) and the second photo was a publicity photo for QoS - which are two very different styles of films.....
In fact, he has even quoted “It’s tricky, it really is, because no-one likes to get old and sag. People can improve themselves when they are younger, but when you’re 60 or 70, you start looking like a freak." Although what people say, and what they do can be two completley different things )
Im not saying that he got any work done, I'm just saying that once he inhabited the role his looks changed and maybe Cavill could do the same.
And Bond is 6 feet not 6'1 read the books Zaphod.
No need to be terse Lexi. My point does not turn upon the specifics of 6ft or 6ft1. And for the record Fleming makes both statements in different texts. My point is the precise opposite , in as much as that all we can really take from Fleiming is that 'Bond is tall' which has countless confirmations in the Novels. We must interpret 'tall' as 'by the prevailing standards of the day' as what was 'tall' in 1953 patently is not so now. Therefore we need to adjust for 'height inflation' as people are taller now than when Fleming creted him. What is undeniable is the intention to make him significantly taller than average. Fleming clearly thought it important as it is stressed so often.
Hang on.... I wasn't talking about height.... I was talking about cosmetic surgery..... and the fact that I don't think Craig has any done... as suggested in a much earlier post.
Hey, I'm not bothered too much about height - I used to be - being 6'1 myself, I always said I would never go out with a man shorter than myself..... HOWEVER - I've realised that was very short sighted of me )
I have always thought that someone taller than me, would make me feel more 'protected' but I realise how silly that is. Firstly, because most men (I've got to be careful here not to rile up certain people on here..... and say some outlandish sexist comment ) feel intimidated by my height anyway, and also, height makes no difference to 'toughness' - in fact my ex is only 5'9 - but very muscular - he took my 6'4 brother on in a fight once, and won with ease.
I always had this romantic notion that my partner had to be taller than me, and when I wear heels, that would mean they would have to be over 6'4..... and there aren't many of them around But, actually it doesn't matter at all..... when you love someone, it makes no difference to their stature..... it's how they make you feel that counts :x
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Im not saying that he got any work done, I'm just saying that once he inhabited the role his looks changed and maybe Cavill could do the same.
And Bond is 6 feet not 6'1 read the books Zaphod.
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
I do not wish to sound picky but surely Iam right on that one.
Admittedly he does look like a ex forces cum hitman in the second photo, a gay russian one[ anyone seen Rocknrolla].
It is really. Besides, most leading men today on film are around that height or slightly smaller. What's interesting note that the tall guys really are on televison these days. At least in the case in the USA.
BlackLeiter, first off thank you for your kindness and your politeness, and of course the respect is absolutely mutual. I'm glad you took a look at Cavill's work and find him adequate for the role. I do think he'd do a very good Bond. Looks, attitude, style and he's a good actor. I am not advocating him at all costs for Bond 23, I think Craig so to speak "deserves" a chance to do a final one and have a "trilogy" in a way. So I think if Craig does 23, that Cavill will be perfect for the following one. I say this considering they should get 23 in theaters in 2012. If that doesn't happen by 2012, then I believe Cavill (or whoever else they pick) can step in at any time.
It's more than fine to have differing opinions, otherwise it would get quite boring, right? ) I'm glad you got to enjoy Craig, I unfortunately don't, but that doesn't mean I can't be happy for those who do, and I mean those who do so in an intelligent way. This is, after all, a franchise and it needs fans to go on, so if nobody liked Craig, it would have been a major problem. I think it's also not necessarily wrong to make this or the other "faction" of fans happy alternatively. Which means, my turn now ) )
I'm really glad you took time to check out Cavill's work and found it adequate for him to be Bond though, and I thank you for having trusted my opinion on it!
6'1 is plenty tall for Bond. Bond is supposed to be 6 ft. So Cavill is actually taller than necessary. And, I know of no man who is 6 ft 1 who enters a room and disappears ) 6 ft 1 is tall, and noticeable. Especially with a built physique like Henry Cavill's. Not to mention his looks. ;%
Now about the voice... what? that is one of his best features! I have friends who want to marry him for the voice alone ) And I'm very serious on this. There's absolutely nothing fey about it. It's a very deep, masculine voice. It's one of the things that adds to his charm. And one of the things that makes him perfect for Bond :007)
Agreed. And hi there! Long time no see!! We always had the same approach to the "problem", so I'm not surprised we agree
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
The truth is, when I see him, it's like looking in a mirror. Basically, he looks exactly like me. Personally, I want a Bond who looks different, as it gets a bit spooky otherwise.
(You can PM me Al'. easyJet are doing cheap flights to London this time of year, if you hurry.... )
Roger Moore 1927-2017
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Never seen him before, but your post prompted me to check him out. Great look, Taekwon-Do balck-belt, 62 plus,keen Diver...certainly sounds action man like. Reminded me of Lazenby (no bad thing in my book) Can he act ? and what is his voice like?
OMG I had a Henry Cavill here and I never knew. I already booked my flight to London (first class, who do you think you're talking to? ) A Bond girl doesn't fly easyJet! Alitalia at the very least! Not that it offers better service ) )
Now, I can wear my 11 cm heels no problem since you're as tall as Henry. Swoooon. Get ready. )
This is you coming to get me at the airport by the way: Hello, Mr Bond. :007) :x :x
I thought Marsden is a pretty good actor. His voice could probably use some work. It's not fey or anything, but maybe he could sound a bit more like a gentleman.
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
He'd be a good choice too but I must admit, at 5'9 he's a tad short.
@Superdaddy by the way, scroll up and you'll see someone else discussing two other actors.
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Yeah but he's even shorter than Craig. I think it's better if we'd stick to someone between 6'0 and 6'2.
At risk of incuring wrath I think that they are pretty much the same. Put 'celebrity heights' into google and you will see a lot of arguement that DC is 5ft9.5 at most and 5ft11 with lifts. Still dont find this chap 'Bondian' enough, a very good actor would make a great other 00, or even a baddie. All is conjecture though as I'm pretty convinced that DC will helm 23 and give his most complete and final performance.
Okay, that's a bit scary... X-( Why are you posting footage of me up on ajb, Al'? It's frankly a bit odd that you've been filming me without my permission.
Oh! Hang on, sorry, that's Mr Cavill. Yeah, okay, I get that a lot. You can see why he shouldn't be Bond.
Anyway, feel free to come over Al. Just one problem; there's a cash flow snag my end and the magazine hasn't come up with two month's wages. Seems I face eviction, I don't know what to do. I guess, you could always wire a few grand in cash, that way I can set you up in style and also pay you back asap. PM me.
I also have a Nigerian prince who's a friend of mine, he's in exile but he'd love to speak to you.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
IDK, Craig seems like 5'10 and probably no more. Could be wrong of course.
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No need to be terse Lexi. My point does not turn upon the specifics of 6ft or 6ft1. And for the record Fleming makes both statements in different texts. My point is the precise opposite , in as much as that all we can really take from Fleiming is that 'Bond is tall' which has countless confirmations in the Novels. We must interpret 'tall' as 'by the prevailing standards of the day' as what was 'tall' in 1953 patently is not so now. Therefore we need to adjust for 'height inflation' as people are taller now than when Fleming creted him. What is undeniable is the intention to make him significantly taller than average. Fleming clearly thought it important as it is stressed so often.
Six foot would still be considered tall in America at least which the average height is 5 feet 10.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Hang on.... I wasn't talking about height.... I was talking about cosmetic surgery..... and the fact that I don't think Craig has any done... as suggested in a much earlier post.
Hey, I'm not bothered too much about height - I used to be - being 6'1 myself, I always said I would never go out with a man shorter than myself..... HOWEVER - I've realised that was very short sighted of me )
I have always thought that someone taller than me, would make me feel more 'protected' but I realise how silly that is. Firstly, because most men (I've got to be careful here not to rile up certain people on here..... and say some outlandish sexist comment ) feel intimidated by my height anyway, and also, height makes no difference to 'toughness' - in fact my ex is only 5'9 - but very muscular - he took my 6'4 brother on in a fight once, and won with ease.
I always had this romantic notion that my partner had to be taller than me, and when I wear heels, that would mean they would have to be over 6'4..... and there aren't many of them around But, actually it doesn't matter at all..... when you love someone, it makes no difference to their stature..... it's how they make you feel that counts :x