A whole thread, several walls of text and larger-than-life pics to tell the internet that you hate Craig but have wet dreams about a boy called Cavill?
Borders on spam.
The fact that a member whose posts I not always enjoyed but were very often very informative (one of the main reasons I visit these boards) was suspended because he frowned in an argumentative way at the ravings of an obsessed mind, makes a mildly ridiculous affair a sad one.
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He was getting a tad personnel to ol Alessandra we all have our own views but there really is no need to get personnel.
A whole thread, several walls of text and larger-than-life pics to tell the internet that you hate Craig but have wet dreams about a boy called Cavill?
Borders on spam.
The fact that a member whose posts I not always enjoyed but were very often very informative (one of the main reasons I visit these boards) was suspended because he frowned in an argumentative way at the ravings of an obsessed mind, makes a mildly ridiculous affair a sad one.
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He was getting a tad personnel to ol Alessandra we all have our own views but there really is no need to get personnel.
Oh . I am a bit disappointed. Me and Ricardo were having some good banter. Still, no need to get personal.
Looking through various posts,In a way I'm glad AJB Members don't have a say in any Bond Projects.Depending On the Thread.
H Cavill (among others ) is too good looking to be Bond
Bond should have a receding Hairline
Moores Bonds were Too full of jokes, So a lot of Members want !
An Ugly Bond with Receding Hair and No One-Liners. I may be wrong But didn't we have that with QOS. )
And to try and stop a backlash, This shouldn't be taken Too Seriously :v
1)I didn't open this thread and I wasn't even aware it was here, I posted on it well after others already had. In case it isn't clear, because apparently it isn't, this is a thread about Henry Cavill. That means the topic of conversation here is him. Not Craig, not other Bond actors. He is the topic. Which means he's the topic of conversation here, and of course I will post about him. If it was a thread about Pierce Brosnan we'd post about Pierce Brosnan. So to even try and imply that me being on topic in a thread about him borders spam is absurd.
2) My dear R.Sterling, I have never interacted with or talked to you, but I can safely say given your post that you seem to have the same exact habit as your pal: personally insulting other posters. "Ravings of an obsessed mind?" I won't dignify that with a reply. Again, we all have our opinions but to belittle and insult like you too just did is out of place in any case. And I never made inappropriate comments like yours. That half sentence about me dreaming about Cavill is not only way out of place, but also way too vulgar to be commented upon. Same style your friend had. I also can't see why you're insulting me seen as you've never spoken to me before. That's a new one.
There are many people here who like Craig with whom I have always interacted and with whom I get on just fine. I have absolutely nothing personal against Craig, I just utterly dislike him as Bond, like many other people do. And it absolutely ends there. And I never posted anything offensive to his persona at all. By the way, I NEVER said or implied that I HATE Craig. I don't. Heck I even said I think it's not wrong to alternate actors to please this or the other faction of fans, regarding his casting. I'm guessing you didn't pay attention, or skipped what mattered, another similarity with your friend.
Hatred is really something I don't waste on an absolutely non-important and non-serious topic like this. Hatred is for those who ruin the world, not for an actor whose only fault is to have been miscast. And it's not even his fault, he was chosen. If I have mentioned him, it was because in the conversation he came up, and certainly not with the intent to insult him. I never did. I even posted he was nice in person, so really ) Anyhow this isn't a thread about Craig.
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
Looking through various posts,In a way I'm glad AJB Members don't have a say in any Bond Projects.Depending On the Thread.
H Cavill (among others ) is too good looking to be Bond
Bond should have a receding Hairline
Moores Bonds were Too full of jokes, So a lot of Members want !
An Ugly Bond with Receding Hair and No One-Liners. I may be wrong But didn't we have that with QOS. )
) ) )
The bottomline: people never realize what they have when it's right in front of them? ) The perpetual human dissatisfaction )
"Are we on coms?" (if you don't know where this is from... you've missed some really good stuff! )
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
Unlike James Bond, he's German.
This has been a brilliantly entertaining thread, with a R Sterling showing up (it's a psuedonym in the film too!) like Blofeld in another guise, possibly. I thought Ricardo had similairities to someone, I guess he was using the same computer however, better luck next time.
It's actually quite hard to change one's writing style, just as Stephen King would write under another name at times and fans would twig.
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
Unlike James Bond, he's German.
) well come on now, can't have everything. It's like you looking like Cavill but not being him )
This has been a brilliantly entertaining thread, with a R Sterling showing up (it's a psuedonym in the film too!) like Blofeld in another guise, possibly. I thought Ricardo had similairities to someone, I guess he was using the same computer however, better luck next time.
It's actually quite hard to change one's writing style, just as Stephen King would write under another name at times and fans would twig.
For sure.
Glad you at least were entertained )
"Are we on coms?" (if you don't know where this is from... you've missed some really good stuff! )
ahem, Alessandra. Don't mess up with ALL your german friends in the old year
....and I knew it, that it was Rick Roberts already in September 2009
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It had to be a duck
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^ Well thats a great compliment to these boards, as Ricardo knows once you get a taste thats all you wan't to drink. {[]
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1)I didn't open this thread and I wasn't even aware it was here, I posted on it well after others already had. In case it isn't clear, because apparently it isn't, this is a thread about Henry Cavill. That means the topic of conversation here is him. Not Craig, not other Bond actors. He is the topic. Which means he's the topic of conversation here, and of course I will post about him. If it was a thread about Pierce Brosnan we'd post about Pierce Brosnan. So to even try and imply that me being on topic in a thread about him borders spam is absurd.
2) My dear R.Sterling, I have never interacted with or talked to you, but I can safely say given your post that you seem to have the same exact habit as your pal: personally insulting other posters. "Ravings of an obsessed mind?" I won't dignify that with a reply. Again, we all have our opinions but to belittle and insult like you too just did is out of place in any case. And I never made inappropriate comments like yours. That half sentence about me dreaming about Cavill is not only way out of place, but also way too vulgar to be commented upon. Same style your friend had. I also can't see why you're insulting me seen as you've never spoken to me before. That's a new one.
There are many people here who like Craig with whom I have always interacted and with whom I get on just fine. I have absolutely nothing personal against Craig, I just utterly dislike him as Bond, like many other people do. And it absolutely ends there. And I never posted anything offensive to his persona at all. By the way, I NEVER said or implied that I HATE Craig. I don't. Heck I even said I think it's not wrong to alternate actors to please this or the other faction of fans, regarding his casting. I'm guessing you didn't pay attention, or skipped what mattered, another similarity with your friend.
Hatred is really something I don't waste on an absolutely non-important and non-serious topic like this. Hatred is for those who ruin the world, not for an actor whose only fault is to have been miscast. And it's not even his fault, he was chosen. If I have mentioned him, it was because in the conversation he came up, and certainly not with the intent to insult him. I never did. I even posted he was nice in person, so really ) Anyhow this isn't a thread about Craig.
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
Looking through various posts,In a way I'm glad AJB Members don't have a say in any Bond Projects.Depending On the Thread.
H Cavill (among others ) is too good looking to be Bond
Bond should have a receding Hairline
Moores Bonds were Too full of jokes, So a lot of Members want !
An Ugly Bond with Receding Hair and No One-Liners. I may be wrong But didn't we have that with QOS. )
) ) )
The bottomline: people never realize what they have when it's right in front of them? ) The perpetual human dissatisfaction )
Like a dog with a bone.
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P.S: I'm the Eva Green admirer you ran into a couple of months ago. Frothing. You. Not I.
I've seen angels fall from blinding heights.
But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
I showed up a bit too late, sadly, my dear---or I'd've picked up my sword and defended you Rick (Ricardo C.) Roberts and I had quite a colourful history over the past months. Nobody has insulted me more in my 5 1/2 years on AJB---and that's saying something! )
To Rick's fans: Yes, he was knowledgable and did bring something to the conversational table---but so have many other banned members...some of whom were instinctively capable of douchebaggery on a preternatural scale, the end balance IMO being a deficit, unfortunately.
It's actually quite hard to change one's writing style, just as Stephen King would write under another name at times and fans would twig.
Indeed. If I were ever banned, there'd be no disguise good enough ;% )
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
I showed up a bit too late, sadly, my dear---or I'd've picked up my sword and defended you Rick (Ricardo C.) Roberts and I had quite a colourful history over the past months. Nobody has insulted me more in my 5 1/2 years on AJB---and that's saying something! )
To Rick's fans: Yes, he was knowledgable and did bring something to the conversational table---but so have many other banned members...some of whom were instinctively capable of douchebaggery on a preternatural scale, the end balance IMO being a deficit, unfortunately.
One thing I really like about this site is the international flavour. ..much like a good Bond film: passion, conflict, sarcasm, humor and some good old British civility and cool to keep things from getting out of hand.
Loeffs is both German and American. He has a German name, but a light American voice not unlike I dunno, the late Christopher Reeve or these American Filmmakers like Spielberg or Lucas. I'm pissed I dunno, feel free if you wanna chip in Loeffs.
Hang on R Sterling aka Rick Roberts you're taking the mickey right. Loeffs German, who'd have thought?
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."
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I'm an American of nearly 100% German descent...NP, I think you, Barbel, darenhat and Tee Hee are the only AJBers to have actually heard my voice...strange world, innit? B-)
However, to swerve back to topic: I'm convinced Cavill is the next James Bond when Craigger's had his day...
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
I showed up a bit too late, sadly, my dear---or I'd've picked up my sword and defended you Rick (Ricardo C.) Roberts and I had quite a colourful history over the past months. Nobody has insulted me more in my 5 1/2 years on AJB---and that's saying something! )
To Rick's fans: Yes, he was knowledgable and did bring something to the conversational table---but so have many other banned members...some of whom were instinctively capable of douchebaggery on a preternatural scale, the end balance IMO being a deficit, unfortunately.
It's actually quite hard to change one's writing style, just as Stephen King would write under another name at times and fans would twig.
Indeed. If I were ever banned, there'd be no disguise good enough ;% )
I suspected Ricardo C was Rick Roberts - a sort of Rick Roberts "Lite" - holding back a little to keep the persona alive. That explains why his swash was without buckle when fencing with Leooffs. ) Personally I'm waiting for the return of the Scashman, I hope he doesn't stay away too long...
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I'm an American of nearly 100% German descent...NP, I think you, Barbel, darenhat and Tee Hee are the only AJBers to have actually heard my voice...strange world, innit? B-)
However, to swerve back to topic: I'm convinced Cavill is the next James Bond when Craigger's had his day...
But, but, he played that gay guy in Stardust! -{
He should be seasoned enough in a few years, likely a leading contender in the making. Coolness.
Happy New Year to all as it is my 45th birthday today when I blow out the candles I will make a wish about Cavill taking over for 23 or 24.
Wishing a peacefull time to all.
Except for Alessandra who truly has a major thing for Cavill, I believe many "Cavill fans" on this thread are just Craig haters looking for any tall handsome face that looks good in a tux to replace him asap. For what it's worth, Cavill may be a great Bond with some maturity but I think putting Cavill in the role prematurely would be a disservice to Cavill and the franchise. I understand why someone may dislike Craig and the direction the films have taken but do not let your personal feelings blur the reality that Craig's portrayal of Bond and screen presence have contributed to the CR and QOS's success at the box office with both the general public and gulp "real Bond fans".
Except for Alessandra who truly has a major thing for Cavill, I believe many "Cavill fans" on this thread are just Craig haters looking for any tall handsome face that looks good in a tux to replace him asap. For what it's worth, Cavill may be a great Bond with some maturity but I think putting Cavill in the role prematurely would be a disservice to Cavill and the franchise. I understand why someone may dislike Craig and the direction the films have taken but do not let your personal feelings blur the reality that Craig's portrayal of Bond and screen presence have contributed to the CR and QOS's success at the box office with both the general public and gulp "real Bond fans".
I am not a Craig hater I just dont think he makes a very good cinamatic Bond and imo Ithink Cavill will.
I also believe that the real boxoffice success of his films was more down to the curiosity factor, new Bond,looks nothing like Bond so how will he do, the next one a direct follow on from the first,never been done with Bond before ect ect.
I have also said earlier in this thread that I think both films are good action films but to me they are not Bond and its just not because of Craig I also think Jeff Wright as Leiter is awful he is so boring and mundane imo the worst Leiter of the series.
I could go on and on about why I think both films are to me not Bond but the topic is about Cavill and I really belive he could probaly be one of he best whereas I think ol Dan is the worst although Iam sure he is really good in other roles[just cant think of any].
Happy New Year to all as it is my 45th birthday today when I blow out the candles I will make a wish about Cavill taking over for 23 or 24.
Wishing a peacefull time to all.
Interesting coincidence, today's my 42nd.
Though my wishes for the new year are of course a little different.
Also interesting that our opinions regarding the last two Bond movies and especially Craig differ greatly.
So much for Astrology, eh?
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I've seen angels fall from blinding heights.
But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Except for Alessandra who truly has a major thing for Cavill, I believe many "Cavill fans" on this thread are just Craig haters looking for any tall handsome face that looks good in a tux to replace him asap. For what it's worth, Cavill may be a great Bond with some maturity but I think putting Cavill in the role prematurely would be a disservice to Cavill and the franchise. I understand why someone may dislike Craig and the direction the films have taken but do not let your personal feelings blur the reality that Craig's portrayal of Bond and screen presence have contributed to the CR and QOS's success at the box office with both the general public and gulp "real Bond fans".
Well said.
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I've seen angels fall from blinding heights.
But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
Except for Alessandra who truly has a major thing for Cavill, I believe many "Cavill fans" on this thread are just Craig haters looking for any tall handsome face that looks good in a tux to replace him asap. For what it's worth, Cavill may be a great Bond with some maturity but I think putting Cavill in the role prematurely would be a disservice to Cavill and the franchise. I understand why someone may dislike Craig and the direction the films have taken but do not let your personal feelings blur the reality that Craig's portrayal of Bond and screen presence have contributed to the CR and QOS's success at the box office with both the general public and gulp "real Bond fans".
Well said.
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Can't speak for anyone else...but I was probably this site's first unequivocal supporter of Cavill, back in '05, and check my signature to see my opinion of Craig
Every actor brings his own thing to the role...I just happen to be of the opinion that what Craig brings is what the franchise needs right now. When he's done, Cavill is the man---and he'll be a smash.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Except for Alessandra who truly has a major thing for Cavill, I believe many "Cavill fans" on this thread are just Craig haters looking for any tall handsome face that looks good in a tux to replace him asap. For what it's worth, Cavill may be a great Bond with some maturity but I think putting Cavill in the role prematurely would be a disservice to Cavill and the franchise. I understand why someone may dislike Craig and the direction the films have taken but do not let your personal feelings blur the reality that Craig's portrayal of Bond and screen presence have contributed to the CR and QOS's success at the box office with both the general public and gulp "real Bond fans".
Well said.
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Can't speak for anyone else...but I was probably this site's first unequivocal supporter of Cavill, back in '05, and check my signature to see my opinion of Craig
Every actor brings his own thing to the role...I just happen to be of the opinion that what Craig brings is what the franchise needs right now. When he's done, Cavill is the man---and he'll be a smash.
Boy, I hope not, Loeff -- this is probably the only point with which I disagree with you, but Cavill is just too uninteresting to me. His looks are appropriate in the way of underwear models and soap opera actors, and I'd fear his Bonds would once more become tedious exercises in expensive, predictable cliche, even if they tried to convince me that he's a man with deep emotional complexity and an extraordinary life as opposed to some privileged suburbanite who hangs around the gym and the club with girls who work at makeup counters and sit-down restaurants chasing after him. He might be fine in some other kind of action movie, like the kind where CGI and Jason Statham are the primary ingredients, but I want Bond more unique than this guy.
I think ol Dan is the worst although Iam sure he is really good in other roles[just cant think of any].
He might be fine in some other kind of action movie, like the kind where CGI and Jason Statham are the primary ingredients, but I want Bond more unique than this guy.
ahem, Alessandra. Don't mess up with ALL your german friends in the old year
) Hiii! I didn't mean the phrase as in "Being German is a fault", you devious 007 in the making :v And of course you know it. I love my German friends, and you know that too
....and I knew it, that it was Rick Roberts already in September 2009
It walked like a duck, it smelled like a duck and it quacked like a duck....
It had to be a duck
) )
I showed up a bit too late, sadly, my dear---or I'd've picked up my sword and defended you Rick (Ricardo C.) Roberts and I had quite a colourful history over the past months. Nobody has insulted me more in my 5 1/2 years on AJB---and that's saying something! )
Thank you Loeffs It's the thought that counts (or at least that's what they say... unless guns are involved ) ). I had no idea about the previous history and I'm sorry to hear insults go way back, and they've been directed at you too. It's never fun when it gets to that point.
But, back to topic...
Can't speak for anyone else...but I was probably this site's first unequivocal supporter of Cavill, back in '05, and check my signature to see my opinion of Craig
Every actor brings his own thing to the role...I just happen to be of the opinion that what Craig brings is what the franchise needs right now. When he's done, Cavill is the man---and he'll be a smash.
I very well remember you supporting Cavill back in '05! Kudos to you for having seen back then already that he really had the right attributes to be Bond.
As I've said before, I think alternating actors that suit the taste of this or the other "faction" of fans isn't even wrong to some degree. You know very well where I stand with Craig, but I don't want to see him mistreated like Dalton or, even worse, Brosnan. So I have nothing against him being in Bond 23 per se. The only problem I have with that is when they release it. If it is by 2012, then I'm sure Craig will be in it by all means, and I'm ok with it. If it's later than that though, I'm first off unsure he's still the right choice (too much time in between movies, plus his age) and also unsure he'd want to do it. I want to be able to look past his tenure as Bond as I don't enjoy him, which is why I talk about Cavill (or anyway someone like him, I can't think of anyone right now but there may be others. Still, I want him to be Bond, not someone else, if at all possible ). But, I have absolutely nothing against him as an actor per se. He's just not my cup of tea.
HowardB, while I thank you for giving me recognition of truly liking Cavill and not just being someone who hates Craig (which, I don't. Dislike in a role is one thing, hate is way too much), I think it's unfair to others who posted here to just say they'd take anyone handsome and they post just because they hate Craig. Other suggestions (names of actors) have been made in this thread, albeit off topic, and posters didn't take those either, and countered they preferred Cavill, so I think those who post do think Cavill is suitable for the role because it's him. Superdaddy in particular has made it very clear where he stands about Cavill, and he knows his work as well as his background, so clearly he isn't just dissing Craig and picking random.
Speaking of Superdaddy : happy birthday to both Superdaddy and R.Sterling. -{ May the New Year bring you happiness! And Bond joy only to Superdaddy ) Sorry, R.Sterling but about that we differ too much. ) But, how about Bond girl joy for you? Quite an amazing day to be born, anyway.
I realize I do not know when Cavill's birthday is. I know his year of birth but not date. (See? If I was obsessed, I'd know that too, but I truly don't). Maybe it's the same day as you guys? That would be hilarious )
Loeffs, in case you want to check those out, there are quite a few good videos of Cavill's upcoming movie, The Cold Light of Day, on youtube, filmed by fans mostly, showing car chases and quite a few stunts. It looks good. There's also a video from a Madrid television that includes a quick glimpse at Mr Henry doing his own stunt. I don't think he quite got he had to control his impact on that balcony ) (he's suspended about 20 meters from the ground, hitting a balcony) Bruises on those legs for sure if he repeated it more than 3 times )
ETA:
But, but, he played that gay guy in Stardust! -{
He should be seasoned enough in a few years, likely a leading contender in the making. Coolness.
OMG. BLUEMAN?! Hiiii!! I haven't "seen" you in so long! How are things on Planet Blue? Good to see you're still around here!
What is becoming of the world? You, Loeffs and I all agreeing about a Bond actor prospect. Must break all box-office records if Cavill's appointed )
"Are we on coms?" (if you don't know where this is from... you've missed some really good stuff! )
I can live with changing Bond actors every four to five films. I do like Craig but that not withstanding I think EON needs to play out the string with DC and the reboot for two more films to allow the charactor to gestate into the fully formed Bond. Craig leaves on his own accord, looks bad or EON gives him the boot IMO I think it would be better for a Cavill to take over much like Dalton did...not a reboot but just another Bond film with a fully formed Bond albeit a different actor and take on the role. Look I'm old enough to have seen my first Bond film in a theater in 1964 soI understand that no matter who is cast as Bond unless it's a complete cluster..... of a casting blunder people will come out to see a Bond film...Bond films are part of our culture and cinematic tradition. But as I have said before, don't underestimate Craig's impact as Bond or his favorite son status with EON....IMO Barbara Brocolli views Craig as her "Connery" (I think she feels the same about DC as Alessandra feels about Cavill lol) and they are gonna ride that horse until he comes up lame or walks away. If Cavill is as good as his supporters think he is, then he may very well get his day in the tux. But then again I and many others thought Clive Owen was a slam dunk to be the next Bond after PB......and who knows maybe he was but we will never know until someone writes the tell all book twenty years from now.
True, HowardB. In the end, what sells is James Bond, no matter who is playing him. I agree about Barbara Broccoli... except I have much better taste ) But it's all good, I'll never fight her over men. ) Cavill did get to be the last one standing vs Craig, so she doesn't despise him, or he was the guy of the other part of production otherwise. Campbell first and foremost clearly said he wanted Cavill back when CR was filmed. I don't think she will have as much power now though. The bankruptcy situation forces them to look for a 50-50 partner, and it puts them in a condition where they can't do as they please. I also honestly don't think Craig wants to do more than 3 movies. But I have no idea what he truly is thinking so this is just a conjecture. only they know what's going on. I would have been curious to see Clive Owen do Bond. I guess given the turn of events for him in terms of movies, that it was better this way. He doesn't seem to have any interest in doing Bond-type movies, so all the better for him. But, like you, I'm curious about the behind-the-scenes too... pretty sure someone will tell the truth about it sooner or later, and that shall be an interesting read.
I think a GoldenEye-style reboot for Cavill would be the best option, I agree with you. Taking over like Pierce did, basically ignoring what was done in the previous 2 (or 3 in this case) and just getting back to a traditional Bond type, with a new actor. That said, I certainly won't complain either way IF they pick Cavill. Whether it's Bond 23 or 24 it doesn't matter, as long as they pick him )
"Are we on coms?" (if you don't know where this is from... you've missed some really good stuff! )
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Can't speak for anyone else...but I was probably this site's first unequivocal supporter of Cavill, back in '05, and check my signature to see my opinion of Craig
Every actor brings his own thing to the role...I just happen to be of the opinion that what Craig brings is what the franchise needs right now. When he's done, Cavill is the man---and he'll be a smash.
Boy, I hope not, Loeff -- this is probably the only point with which I disagree with you, but Cavill is just too uninteresting to me. His looks are appropriate in the way of underwear models and soap opera actors, and I'd fear his Bonds would once more become tedious exercises in expensive, predictable cliche, even if they tried to convince me that he's a man with deep emotional complexity and an extraordinary life as opposed to some privileged suburbanite who hangs around the gym and the club with girls who work at makeup counters and sit-down restaurants chasing after him. He might be fine in some other kind of action movie, like the kind where CGI and Jason Statham are the primary ingredients, but I want Bond more unique than this guy.
Fair enough, Gassy. But I think performance is the key with Bond rather than looks (hence my long-term support of the current guy back during the heat and violence of The Craig WarsTM). That said, to me Cavill does look the part in a very specific sense...but he's got an excellent acting pedigree, and that's what excites me even more.
It will be fascinating to see what they do after #23 or #24, or whenever Craigger hangs up the tux.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
He should be seasoned enough in a few years, likely a leading contender in the making. Coolness.
OMG. BLUEMAN?! Hiiii!! I haven't "seen" you in so long! How are things on Planet Blue? Good to see you're still around here!
What is becoming of the world? You, Loeffs and I all agreeing about a Bond actor prospect. Must break all box-office records if Cavill's appointed )
Still here, still lovin' the Craig Bond zeitgeist (QOS was better then CR in my estimation, another minority opinion but oh well... then again many fans have warmed to QOS like they did to Craig after he was cast, maybe I'm just ahead of my time? ).
As long as Cavill can find an edge in himself somewhere to bring to the role: Brosnan (who was only successful in the role as a curiosity, lol 8-) ) worked best for me in those moments he brought that "The Fourth Protocol" harshness to things, the hotel room scenes with Paris, and with Dr Kaufman in TND for example. The rest of the time, he was just to slight in the role, didn't work for me for Bond (Fleming's Bond at any rate, also why I like Moore best in TMWTGG and Connery best in DN). My concern with another such "pretty boy" Bond would be the same - bring the chill Cavill and I'll champion you, and let your looks do their thing without riding on their merits, please. We haven't had such a beast as Bond, underwear-model gorgeous yet a stone-cold killer, if that's Cavill then I'd be very intrigued to see his Bond, could work if they keep it real. Anyhoo, 2 cents on that what-if. Go Craig! -{
He should be seasoned enough in a few years, likely a leading contender in the making. Coolness.
OMG. BLUEMAN?! Hiiii!! I haven't "seen" you in so long! How are things on Planet Blue? Good to see you're still around here!
What is becoming of the world? You, Loeffs and I all agreeing about a Bond actor prospect. Must break all box-office records if Cavill's appointed )
Still here, still lovin' the Craig Bond zeitgeist (QOS was better then CR in my estimation, another minority opinion but oh well... then again many fans have warmed to QOS like they did to Craig after he was cast, maybe I'm just ahead of my time? ).
As long as Cavill can find an edge in himself somewhere to bring to the role: Brosnan (who was only successful in the role as a curiosity, lol 8-) ) worked best for me in those moments he brought that "The Fourth Protocol" harshness to things, the hotel room scenes with Paris, and with Dr Kaufman in TND for example. The rest of the time, he was just to slight in the role, didn't work for me for Bond (Fleming's Bond at any rate, also why I like Moore best in TMWTGG and Connery best in DN). My concern with another such "pretty boy" Bond would be the same - bring the chill Cavill and I'll champion you, and let your looks do their thing without riding on their merits, please. We haven't had such a beast as Bond, underwear-model gorgeous yet a stone-cold killer, if that's Cavill then I'd be very intrigued to see his Bond, could work if they keep it real. Anyhoo, 2 cents on that what-if. Go Craig! -{
Ahhh, the champion of Craig support, you never disappoint! It's good to see your enjoyment has remained intact (I mean it, much as I don't enjoy him, I appreciate the fact you truly enjoy him instead, and do so without becoming a fanatic. Unless that's happened while I was away? ) ).
As far as Henry, like Loeffs was saying, the thing is he really is a good actor. With solid Shakespearean background as well. So not only he naturally looks the part in a very specific way, but mostly he can definitely act it the way he's supposed to. It would be too long to show footage of The Tudors where he is in battle, but just to show how he couldn't care less about looks and instead he just gets threatening when needed, this short clip is an example. Btw he is also one who can very well handle the whole gun/shooting part of the films, having actually gone through training for that in boarding school. And he's done countless fighting/battle scenes not simply in the Tudors, but in other movies he was in as well.
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very very funny:))
1)I didn't open this thread and I wasn't even aware it was here, I posted on it well after others already had. In case it isn't clear, because apparently it isn't, this is a thread about Henry Cavill. That means the topic of conversation here is him. Not Craig, not other Bond actors. He is the topic. Which means he's the topic of conversation here, and of course I will post about him. If it was a thread about Pierce Brosnan we'd post about Pierce Brosnan. So to even try and imply that me being on topic in a thread about him borders spam is absurd.
2) My dear R.Sterling, I have never interacted with or talked to you, but I can safely say given your post that you seem to have the same exact habit as your pal: personally insulting other posters. "Ravings of an obsessed mind?" I won't dignify that with a reply. Again, we all have our opinions but to belittle and insult like you too just did is out of place in any case. And I never made inappropriate comments like yours. That half sentence about me dreaming about Cavill is not only way out of place, but also way too vulgar to be commented upon. Same style your friend had. I also can't see why you're insulting me seen as you've never spoken to me before. That's a new one.
There are many people here who like Craig with whom I have always interacted and with whom I get on just fine. I have absolutely nothing personal against Craig, I just utterly dislike him as Bond, like many other people do. And it absolutely ends there. And I never posted anything offensive to his persona at all. By the way, I NEVER said or implied that I HATE Craig. I don't. Heck I even said I think it's not wrong to alternate actors to please this or the other faction of fans, regarding his casting. I'm guessing you didn't pay attention, or skipped what mattered, another similarity with your friend.
Hatred is really something I don't waste on an absolutely non-important and non-serious topic like this. Hatred is for those who ruin the world, not for an actor whose only fault is to have been miscast. And it's not even his fault, he was chosen. If I have mentioned him, it was because in the conversation he came up, and certainly not with the intent to insult him. I never did. I even posted he was nice in person, so really
Loeffs, like James Bond you show up when it's least expected, and you just know things :v Impressive
The bottomline: people never realize what they have when it's right in front of them?
Unlike James Bond, he's German.
This has been a brilliantly entertaining thread, with a R Sterling showing up (it's a psuedonym in the film too!) like Blofeld in another guise, possibly. I thought Ricardo had similairities to someone, I guess he was using the same computer however, better luck next time.
It's actually quite hard to change one's writing style, just as Stephen King would write under another name at times and fans would twig.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
For sure.
Glad you at least were entertained
ahem, Alessandra. Don't mess up with ALL your german friends in the old year
....and I knew it, that it was Rick Roberts already in September 2009
It walked like a duck, it smelled like a duck and it quacked like a duck....
It had to be a duck
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Like a dog with a bone.
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P.S: I'm the Eva Green admirer you ran into a couple of months ago. Frothing. You. Not I.
But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
I showed up a bit too late, sadly, my dear---or I'd've picked up my sword and defended you
To Rick's fans: Yes, he was knowledgable and did bring something to the conversational table---but so have many other banned members...some of whom were instinctively capable of douchebaggery on a preternatural scale, the end balance IMO being a deficit, unfortunately.
Indeed. If I were ever banned, there'd be no disguise good enough ;%
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Good lord, Loeffelholz, you're German too?
Just read throught the last posts and ... the "Jaded Author" is German?!
I'm a (silent) fan and confused now- never expected that.
Back to champagne, the girlfriend and the cats: The new years is 25 minutes old only so far.
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But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
Hang on R Sterling aka Rick Roberts you're taking the mickey right. Loeffs German, who'd have thought?
Roger Moore 1927-2017
However, to swerve back to topic: I'm convinced Cavill is the next James Bond when Craigger's had his day...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I suspected Ricardo C was Rick Roberts - a sort of Rick Roberts "Lite" - holding back a little to keep the persona alive. That explains why his swash was without buckle when fencing with Leooffs.
http://apbateman.com
He should be seasoned enough in a few years, likely a leading contender in the making. Coolness.
Wishing a peacefull time to all.
I also believe that the real boxoffice success of his films was more down to the curiosity factor, new Bond,looks nothing like Bond so how will he do, the next one a direct follow on from the first,never been done with Bond before ect ect.
I have also said earlier in this thread that I think both films are good action films but to me they are not Bond and its just not because of Craig I also think Jeff Wright as Leiter is awful he is so boring and mundane imo the worst Leiter of the series.
I could go on and on about why I think both films are to me not Bond but the topic is about Cavill and I really belive he could probaly be one of he best whereas I think ol Dan is the worst although Iam sure he is really good in other roles[just cant think of any].
Interesting coincidence, today's my 42nd.
Though my wishes for the new year are of course a little different.
Also interesting that our opinions regarding the last two Bond movies and especially Craig differ greatly.
So much for Astrology, eh?
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But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
Well said.
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But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
Can't speak for anyone else...but I was probably this site's first unequivocal supporter of Cavill, back in '05, and check my signature to see my opinion of Craig
Every actor brings his own thing to the role...I just happen to be of the opinion that what Craig brings is what the franchise needs right now. When he's done, Cavill is the man---and he'll be a smash.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Couldn't agree more!
Thank you Loeffs
But, back to topic...
I very well remember you supporting Cavill back in '05! Kudos to you for having seen back then already that he really had the right attributes to be Bond.
As I've said before, I think alternating actors that suit the taste of this or the other "faction" of fans isn't even wrong to some degree. You know very well where I stand with Craig, but I don't want to see him mistreated like Dalton or, even worse, Brosnan. So I have nothing against him being in Bond 23 per se. The only problem I have with that is when they release it. If it is by 2012, then I'm sure Craig will be in it by all means, and I'm ok with it. If it's later than that though, I'm first off unsure he's still the right choice (too much time in between movies, plus his age) and also unsure he'd want to do it. I want to be able to look past his tenure as Bond as I don't enjoy him, which is why I talk about Cavill (or anyway someone like him, I can't think of anyone right now but there may be others. Still, I want him to be Bond, not someone else, if at all possible
HowardB, while I thank you for giving me recognition of truly liking Cavill and not just being someone who hates Craig (which, I don't. Dislike in a role is one thing, hate is way too much), I think it's unfair to others who posted here to just say they'd take anyone handsome and they post just because they hate Craig. Other suggestions (names of actors) have been made in this thread, albeit off topic, and posters didn't take those either, and countered they preferred Cavill, so I think those who post do think Cavill is suitable for the role because it's him. Superdaddy in particular has made it very clear where he stands about Cavill, and he knows his work as well as his background, so clearly he isn't just dissing Craig and picking random.
Speaking of Superdaddy : happy birthday to both Superdaddy and R.Sterling. -{ May the New Year bring you happiness! And Bond joy only to Superdaddy
I realize I do not know when Cavill's birthday is. I know his year of birth but not date. (See? If I was obsessed, I'd know that too, but I truly don't). Maybe it's the same day as you guys? That would be hilarious
Loeffs, in case you want to check those out, there are quite a few good videos of Cavill's upcoming movie, The Cold Light of Day, on youtube, filmed by fans mostly, showing car chases and quite a few stunts. It looks good. There's also a video from a Madrid television that includes a quick glimpse at Mr Henry doing his own stunt. I don't think he quite got he had to control his impact on that balcony
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OMG. BLUEMAN?! Hiiii!! I haven't "seen" you in so long! How are things on Planet Blue? Good to see you're still around here!
What is becoming of the world? You, Loeffs and I all agreeing about a Bond actor prospect. Must break all box-office records if Cavill's appointed
I think a GoldenEye-style reboot for Cavill would be the best option, I agree with you. Taking over like Pierce did, basically ignoring what was done in the previous 2 (or 3 in this case) and just getting back to a traditional Bond type, with a new actor. That said, I certainly won't complain either way IF they pick Cavill. Whether it's Bond 23 or 24 it doesn't matter, as long as they pick him
Fair enough, Gassy. But I think performance is the key with Bond rather than looks (hence my long-term support of the current guy back during the heat and violence of The Craig WarsTM). That said, to me Cavill does look the part in a very specific sense...but he's got an excellent acting pedigree, and that's what excites me even more.
It will be fascinating to see what they do after #23 or #24, or whenever Craigger hangs up the tux.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
As long as Cavill can find an edge in himself somewhere to bring to the role: Brosnan (who was only successful in the role as a curiosity, lol 8-) ) worked best for me in those moments he brought that "The Fourth Protocol" harshness to things, the hotel room scenes with Paris, and with Dr Kaufman in TND for example. The rest of the time, he was just to slight in the role, didn't work for me for Bond (Fleming's Bond at any rate, also why I like Moore best in TMWTGG and Connery best in DN). My concern with another such "pretty boy" Bond would be the same - bring the chill Cavill and I'll champion you, and let your looks do their thing without riding on their merits, please. We haven't had such a beast as Bond, underwear-model gorgeous yet a stone-cold killer, if that's Cavill then I'd be very intrigued to see his Bond, could work if they keep it real. Anyhoo, 2 cents on that what-if. Go Craig! -{
Ahhh, the champion of Craig support, you never disappoint!
As far as Henry, like Loeffs was saying, the thing is he really is a good actor. With solid Shakespearean background as well. So not only he naturally looks the part in a very specific way, but mostly he can definitely act it the way he's supposed to. It would be too long to show footage of The Tudors where he is in battle, but just to show how he couldn't care less about looks and instead he just gets threatening when needed, this short clip is an example. Btw he is also one who can very well handle the whole gun/shooting part of the films, having actually gone through training for that in boarding school. And he's done countless fighting/battle scenes not simply in the Tudors, but in other movies he was in as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Xk2MGfmfs