Timothy Dalton as Bond Villian?

Q and M

just thinking about it, he would be a good villian, a commanding presence who could no doubt be a menacing villian. What does everyone think?

HowardB

Dalton is a terrific actor and does a great villain...because of his still great looks and acting skills he would be perfect in the role of a popular member of the British government (maybe even a friend/confidant of "M") who is actually part of Quantum. M's relationship with this politition/secret Quantum member could bring about her end, either by death or disgrace. Actually another good role for Daltoncould the next "M". Dalton could be former high ranking British military with a connection to Bond from his old SBS/black ops days. A more aggressive, less politicised take on "M". That all being said, I think EON would avoid what many would consider "stunt casting" especially in light of how many other excellent British, European and American actors there are out there who could ablely fill such roles.

Q and M

i wouldnt rule out such a role for dalton considering it has happened quite alot before with the likes of joe don baker, charles gray and to a greater extent maud adams

HowardB

But none of them were actually Bond.

Q and M

true true, but lets face it dalton does look different from 20odd years ago, in a way it could make up for him not making property of a lady. anyone agree?

DangerMouse

Q and M wrote:

true true, but lets face it dalton does look different from 20odd years ago, in a way it could make up for him not making property of a lady. anyone agree?

Yeah, I agree. Whether Dalton wants to do it or not is another thing to take into account.

DEFIANT 74205

I don't like the idea. Dalton may be a fine actor, but in my opinion, no one who has ever played Bond should play the villain in another Bond movie. Sorry.

Bond's role is to defeat the villain, which means that Dalton's character must either escape or be killed. There's a certain ... 'aura' associated with being Bond, and ... well, I'm finding this very hard to describe, but it's like the torch being passed from one Bond to another. It'll give ammunition to the Craig fans when the question is asked, 'which is the better Bond?', and their answer will be 'Craig, he beat Dalton in a fight'. To use a Star Trek analogy, it'd be like Picard burying Kirk ... it's wrong, and it shouldn't be done.

However, I'd be all for casting Dalton as M. I think he can pull off a weary old sailor with a weather-beaten face. He can pull off 'grumpy' as well as Bernard Lee, I'm sure.

007bondfan

DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

I don't like the idea. Dalton may be a fine actor, but in my opinion, no one who has ever played Bond should play the villain in another Bond movie. Sorry.

+1 I'd be thinking about that the entire time I was watching the movie

Blackleiter

Me, too! I don't like that idea at all. I felt the same way when some people used to toss out the notion of Sean Connery as a Bond villain.

007bondfan wrote:

DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

I don't like the idea. Dalton may be a fine actor, but in my opinion, no one who has ever played Bond should play the villain in another Bond movie. Sorry.

+1 I'd be thinking about that the entire time I was watching the movie

Jedi Master

Yes I think that the problem it would come down to is that it would take you out of the movie. If he played a bad character it would be funny and if he played a good character people would start trying to create links between that character and Dalton's bond.

Willie Garvin

I think Tim looks great and he should be the next M.

superdaddy

Let him play Bond imo he looks younger and better than Craig.

Thunderpussy

) Funny superdaddy )

Mister White

Jedi Master wrote:

Yes I think that the problem it would come down to is that it would take you out of the movie. If he played a bad character it would be funny and if he played a good character people would start trying to create links between that character and Dalton's bond.

I have to agree with your point there.

It was the same for me with the second X-files movie. Billy Conolly had the part of a pedofile catholic priest with supposed psychic abilities. And he played his part well.

But I just kept thinking: "Oh look, it's Billy Conolly! He always makes me laugh!"

spy009

He plays a good villan on TVs "CHUCK"...

Shady Tree

Dalton was great as the meglomaniacal Time Lord Rassilon, making a guest appearance in David Tennant's two-part swan song as Doctor Who (BBC, Dec. 09 / Jan. 10). But because Dalton had also been (my favourite) Bond, and I was reminded of his performance as 007, I found it hard to feel alienated by his Time Lord villain in the way that I suppose one was meant to feel. For the same reason, although it's always a pleasure to see Dalton, I don't think he should be cast as a Bond villain.

PPK 7.65mm

I agree having a former actor who played Bond appear as a villain would defiantly take me out the movie and also it reeks of stunt casting. As much as I like Tim Dalton, I don't think this would work.

Mister White

Shady Tree wrote:

Dalton was great as the meglomaniacal Time Lord Rassilon, making a guest appearance in David Tennant's two-part swan song as Doctor Who (BBC, Dec. 09 / Jan. 10). But because Dalton had also been (my favourite) Bond, and I was reminded of his performance as 007, I found it hard to feel alienated by his Time Lord villain in the way that I suppose one was meant to feel. For the same reason, although it's always a pleasure to see Dalton, I don't think he should be cast as a Bond villain.

Have to agree he was great as Rassilon, but I felt the same way you did.

Exactly the point I was trying to make.

JADE66

HowardB wrote:

Dalton is a terrific actor and does a great villain...because of his still great looks and acting skills he would be perfect in the role of a popular member of the British government (maybe even a friend/confidant of "M") who is actually part of Quantum. M's relationship with this politition/secret Quantum member could bring about her end, either by death or disgrace. Actually another good role for Daltoncould the next "M". Dalton could be former high ranking British military with a connection to Bond from his old SBS/black ops days. A more aggressive, less politicised take on "M". That all being said, I think EON would avoid what many would consider "stunt casting" especially in light of how many other excellent British, European and American actors there are out there who could ablely fill such roles.

I agree 100%. It would be like casting a former Bond villain as Bond. (Think Sean Bean or Robert Carlyle.) There are a lot of great actors out there with the screen presence and good looks to do the job. Sam Neill, a former Bond contender, would be perfect. Gerard Butler or
Ioan Gruffud would also be good choices. Just a thought.

PPK 7.65mm

I agree this idea feels to much like stunt casting, plus I doubt Dalton himself would be interested.

Mister White

JADE66 wrote:

I agree 100%. It would be like casting a former Bond villain as Bond. (Think Sean Bean or Robert Carlyle.) There are a lot of great actors out there with the screen presence and good looks to do the job. Sam Neill, a former Bond contender, would be perfect. Gerard Butler or
Ioan Gruffud would also be good choices. Just a thought.

while Ioan Gruffud is a great actor, I would then get the feeling of seeing Hornblower do Bond...

SpectreBlofeld

spy009 wrote:

He plays a good villan on TVs "CHUCK"...

This. He's already been a Bond-style villain, and a great one, at that!