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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    As far as Dalton goes...are you serious? Jimmy Dean, Willard Whyte, in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER was a better actor than Dalton. Dalton had zero idea on how to play Bond. Just watch the scene when he is hanging by his wrists on the conveyor belt in LTK. Oh, man, did he play that wrong. All squirming and panic and nearly in tears over desperation to save his own life. Dalton played Bond in that scene the way a common man would react to being in that situation: afraid and desperate and out of control. Now compare that certain-death-to-come conveyor belt scene with a similar scene of Connery's -- his laser table scene in GOLDFINGER. See the way Sean played that scene? No crying and whining like a baby like Dalton. Just super-cool, can see his mind working a way out of it, even a bit nasty towards his abductor. Dalton was horrendous, played Bond like a panicky little girl. I still can't believe he played Bond the way he did in that scene.

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  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:

    You may have a new friend yet ...
    Yeah. I go on various Bond fan sites and I often come across a love - a reverence! - for Dalton. I am sooo puzzled by that. Dalton played the character all wrong. That conveyor belt scene is astonishing to me. Portraying Bond as a desperate, crying, common man when faced with death. Good God, Dalton truly didn't understand who Bond was. Dalton was a huge mistake...nearly sunk the entire series.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    You may have a new friend yet ...
    Yeah. I go on various Bond fan sites and I often come across a love - a reverence! - for Dalton. I am sooo puzzled by that. Dalton played the character all wrong. That conveyor belt scene is astonishing to me. Portraying Bond as a desperate, crying, common man when faced with death. Good God, Dalton truly didn't understand who Bond was. Dalton was a huge mistake...nearly sunk the entire series.

    I wasn't talking about me. You and Higgins actually have something significant in common.

    Now on the other hand, how do you feel about Craig?
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    how do you feel about Craig?
    Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.

    Steve, you are no James Bond.

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    edited March 2017
    Oh boy, this could get fun. ^ :)) :))
    Barbel and Higgins "kids" :)) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
    So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    how do you feel about Craig?
    Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.

    Steve, you are no James Bond.

    MCQUEEN-TGJ.MAIN_.jpg

    While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Chula wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    how do you feel about Craig?
    Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.

    Steve, you are no James Bond.

    MCQUEEN-TGJ.MAIN_.jpg

    While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
    Your only saying that because his suits dont fit him correctly :)
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Chula wrote:
    Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.

    Steve, you are no James Bond.

    MCQUEEN-TGJ.MAIN_.jpg

    While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
    Your only saying that because his suits dont fit him correctly :)

    I wish. Craig wore some fantastic suits in Quantum of Solace, and he still couldn't give a good performance.
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,750Chief of Staff
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Oh boy, this could get fun. ^ :)) :))
    Barbel and Higgins "kids" :)) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
    So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?

    Fun indeed :D

    I see our friend Chula moved on from the points he lost :))
    YNWA 97
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Oh boy, this could get fun. ^ :)) :))
    Barbel and Higgins "kids" :)) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
    So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?

    Fun indeed :D

    I see our friend Chula moved on from the points he lost :))
    :))
    Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    edited March 2017
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
    Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.

    I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
    What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? :))
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :)) It's a long time that people have called me "kid" but thanks for the nice words.

    My first Bond Movie in the cinema was TSWLM back in the days and yes, I have taped them, too.

    As much as I appreciate our similarities - also our tastes about Dalton {[] {[] - you should be a bit more respectful to people who have deep knowledge to the topic (like Barbel) and you should be careful not making a fool (or dumpling) out of yourself with those inaccuracies boldly presented as your first contributions.

    That initial impression may stick.

    Welcome to AJB
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Fleming based the book on jack Whittingham's original screenplay.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Why do you assume Barbel has deeper knowledge than myself or anybody else? Unless Barbel is Ms. Broccoli or Mr. G. Wilson, then, no, Barbel certainly should not be given credit for having deeper knowledge than anybody else.

    When it comes to Bond, very few people know more than Chula. Admittedly I know zilch about the Brosnan and McQueen films. I've seen those films once, vomited, and never viewed them again. However, when it comes to the first dozen or so films, no one can match the Bond knowledge that Chula possesses. No one except for Ms. Broccoli and Mr. G. Wilson, of course. I will cede any claim of deeper knowledge to them.
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Fleming based the book on jack Whittingham's original screenplay.
    Now there's an inaccuracy.
    Want the facts? It is Whittingham who based his THUNDERBALL screenplay on Fleming's initial "Thunderball" work.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Why do you assume Barbel has deeper knowledge than myself or anybody else? Unless Barbel is Ms. Broccoli or Mr. G. Wilson, then, no, Barbel certainly should not be given credit for having deeper knowledge than anybody else.

    When it comes to Bond, very few people know more than Chula. Admittedly I know zilch about the Brosnan and McQueen films. I've seen those films once, vomited, and never viewed them again. However, when it comes to the first dozen or so films, no one can match the Bond knowledge that Chula possesses. No one except for Ms. Broccoli and Mr. G. Wilson, of course. I will cede any claim of deeper knowledge to them.

    Someone said it earlier and you are falling into a common trap.

    With your friends and family, you are THE BOND GUY!
    They ask you questions (often dumb ones) and you're the Master.

    Coming to AJB with that attitude (I am the biggest/oldest/longes/smartest etc Bond Fan on Earth) makes you soon realise, that there are many people here with deeper knowledge to the topic than yourself.

    I had to learn this and you will do it as well {[] {[]


    That aside, you should be a bit more respectful to our moderators.
    When you are here for over 10 years with post counts in the thousands, you may be allowed an insult or 2 or a little spanking but you have to earn that honour.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Coming to AJB makes you soon realise, that there are people here with deeper knowledge to the topic than yourself.
    Dude, I am at a place where some think Fleming based THUNDERBALL on Whittingham's screenplay and where some think Dalton was a great Bond! I am really questioning your assessment of "deeper knowledge" of this place.

    Hey, it's all just a good give and take about something rather inconsequential to the world - 007 films. If we can't have a good time talking about Bond films, then the world really is in trouble.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited March 2017
    It's difficult discussing things when your counterpart claims "to know it all . Period" 8-) 8-) 8-)

    Particularly when you know that he is wrong :D :D :D

    How do I know? I don't know those details, but I know 2 people here that do and Barbel is one of them.

    And btw, one of my closest friends here on the forum used to work for EON for years and finds still an open door there to all staff - particularly to those that have been there for decades.

    His information may be even better, deeper and more accurate than if you'd asked Babs or Mickey directly ;)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    edited March 2017
    8-) Whittingham wrote the screenplay in 1959, the novel based on it written by Fleming was first published 2 years later. Obviously as the quintessential expert you will know how quickly Fleming wrote.
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Fleming based the book on jack Whittingham's original screenplay.
    Now there's an inaccuracy.
    Want the facts? It is Whittingham who based his THUNDERBALL screenplay on Fleming's initial "Thunderball" work.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    This is going to be fun, obviously I am another young'un , as Thunderball was my first movie in the cinema :v
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    This is going to be fun, obviously I am another young'un , as Thunderball was my first movie in the cinema :v

    Pah you're barely wet behind the ears :)
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Yey, I am feeling young again inbetween all those old farts!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    In between farts, you should be reaching for some air freshener ! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I don't have many friends here in that regard.

    You've got me!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I don't have many friends here in that regard.

    You've got me!

    Thanks for being there!
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,750Chief of Staff
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
    Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.

    I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
    What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? :))

    Wind. Up. Merchant. 8-)
    YNWA 97
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    I don't have many friends here in that regard.

    You've got me!

    Thanks for being there!
    That's a beautiful thing -{
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
    Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.

    I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
    What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? :))

    Wind. Up. Merchant. 8-)

    There's a useful four letter word...........and he's full of it.
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    Well seeing as Die Another Day was my first Bond film in the cinema, I guess that completely discounts me from contributing anything meaningful to this discussion :))

    But seriously, I think it's relatively common knowledge that Thunderball was initially written as a film treatment.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agreed, it's in all the reference book on the history of Bond. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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