As far as Dalton goes...are you serious? Jimmy Dean, Willard Whyte, in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER was a better actor than Dalton. Dalton had zero idea on how to play Bond. Just watch the scene when he is hanging by his wrists on the conveyor belt in LTK. Oh, man, did he play that wrong. All squirming and panic and nearly in tears over desperation to save his own life. Dalton played Bond in that scene the way a common man would react to being in that situation: afraid and desperate and out of control. Now compare that certain-death-to-come conveyor belt scene with a similar scene of Connery's -- his laser table scene in GOLDFINGER. See the way Sean played that scene? No crying and whining like a baby like Dalton. Just super-cool, can see his mind working a way out of it, even a bit nasty towards his abductor. Dalton was horrendous, played Bond like a panicky little girl. I still can't believe he played Bond the way he did in that scene.
Yeah. I go on various Bond fan sites and I often come across a love - a reverence! - for Dalton. I am sooo puzzled by that. Dalton played the character all wrong. That conveyor belt scene is astonishing to me. Portraying Bond as a desperate, crying, common man when faced with death. Good God, Dalton truly didn't understand who Bond was. Dalton was a huge mistake...nearly sunk the entire series.
Yeah. I go on various Bond fan sites and I often come across a love - a reverence! - for Dalton. I am sooo puzzled by that. Dalton played the character all wrong. That conveyor belt scene is astonishing to me. Portraying Bond as a desperate, crying, common man when faced with death. Good God, Dalton truly didn't understand who Bond was. Dalton was a huge mistake...nearly sunk the entire series.
I wasn't talking about me. You and Higgins actually have something significant in common.
Now on the other hand, how do you feel about Craig?
Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.
Oh boy, this could get fun. ^ ) )
Barbel and Higgins "kids" ) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?
Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.
Steve, you are no James Bond.
While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.
Steve, you are no James Bond.
While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
Your only saying that because his suits dont fit him correctly
Steve McQueen? Uhh, I think he should have stuck with films about escaping World War II POWs and putting out fires in towering infernos. As Bond, McQueen doesn't have a clue how to play him. Bond is not DIE HARD'S John McClain, you know. Steve McQueen thinks Bond is John McClain -- nothing but a tough, simple, unsophisticated cop. Steve McQueen should stop making Bond films. Please, I beg you! Go back to THE SAND PEBBLES, man, you were great in that...you were horrible in CASINO ROYALE.
Steve, you are no James Bond.
While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
Your only saying that because his suits dont fit him correctly
I wish. Craig wore some fantastic suits in Quantum of Solace, and he still couldn't give a good performance.
Oh boy, this could get fun. ^ ) )
Barbel and Higgins "kids" ) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?
Fun indeed
I see our friend Chula moved on from the points he lost )
Oh boy, this could get fun. ^ ) )
Barbel and Higgins "kids" ) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?
Fun indeed
I see our friend Chula moved on from the points he lost )
)
Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.
I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? )
) ) ) It's a long time that people have called me "kid" but thanks for the nice words.
My first Bond Movie in the cinema was TSWLM back in the days and yes, I have taped them, too.
As much as I appreciate our similarities - also our tastes about Dalton {[] {[] - you should be a bit more respectful to people who have deep knowledge to the topic (like Barbel) and you should be careful not making a fool (or dumpling) out of yourself with those inaccuracies boldly presented as your first contributions.
That initial impression may stick.
Welcome to AJB
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Why do you assume Barbel has deeper knowledge than myself or anybody else? Unless Barbel is Ms. Broccoli or Mr. G. Wilson, then, no, Barbel certainly should not be given credit for having deeper knowledge than anybody else.
When it comes to Bond, very few people know more than Chula. Admittedly I know zilch about the Brosnan and McQueen films. I've seen those films once, vomited, and never viewed them again. However, when it comes to the first dozen or so films, no one can match the Bond knowledge that Chula possesses. No one except for Ms. Broccoli and Mr. G. Wilson, of course. I will cede any claim of deeper knowledge to them.
Why do you assume Barbel has deeper knowledge than myself or anybody else? Unless Barbel is Ms. Broccoli or Mr. G. Wilson, then, no, Barbel certainly should not be given credit for having deeper knowledge than anybody else.
When it comes to Bond, very few people know more than Chula. Admittedly I know zilch about the Brosnan and McQueen films. I've seen those films once, vomited, and never viewed them again. However, when it comes to the first dozen or so films, no one can match the Bond knowledge that Chula possesses. No one except for Ms. Broccoli and Mr. G. Wilson, of course. I will cede any claim of deeper knowledge to them.
Someone said it earlier and you are falling into a common trap.
With your friends and family, you are THE BOND GUY!
They ask you questions (often dumb ones) and you're the Master.
Coming to AJB with that attitude (I am the biggest/oldest/longes/smartest etc Bond Fan on Earth) makes you soon realise, that there are many people here with deeper knowledge to the topic than yourself.
I had to learn this and you will do it as well {[] {[]
That aside, you should be a bit more respectful to our moderators.
When you are here for over 10 years with post counts in the thousands, you may be allowed an insult or 2 or a little spanking but you have to earn that honour.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Coming to AJB makes you soon realise, that there are people here with deeper knowledge to the topic than yourself.
Dude, I am at a place where some think Fleming based THUNDERBALL on Whittingham's screenplay and where some think Dalton was a great Bond! I am really questioning your assessment of "deeper knowledge" of this place.
Hey, it's all just a good give and take about something rather inconsequential to the world - 007 films. If we can't have a good time talking about Bond films, then the world really is in trouble.
It's difficult discussing things when your counterpart claims "to know it all . Period" 8-) 8-) 8-)
Particularly when you know that he is wrong
How do I know? I don't know those details, but I know 2 people here that do and Barbel is one of them.
And btw, one of my closest friends here on the forum used to work for EON for years and finds still an open door there to all staff - particularly to those that have been there for decades.
His information may be even better, deeper and more accurate than if you'd asked Babs or Mickey directly
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
8-) Whittingham wrote the screenplay in 1959, the novel based on it written by Fleming was first published 2 years later. Obviously as the quintessential expert you will know how quickly Fleming wrote.
Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.
I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? )
Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.
I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? )
Wind. Up. Merchant. 8-)
There's a useful four letter word...........and he's full of it.
Well seeing as Die Another Day was my first Bond film in the cinema, I guess that completely discounts me from contributing anything meaningful to this discussion )
But seriously, I think it's relatively common knowledge that Thunderball was initially written as a film treatment.
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I wasn't talking about me. You and Higgins actually have something significant in common.
Now on the other hand, how do you feel about Craig?
Steve, you are no James Bond.
Barbel and Higgins "kids" ) I think Barbel watched Dr no on its opening weekend for his 21st birthday treat.
So was Skyfall your first ever bond in the cinema Higgins young lad?
While I don't agree with you on Dalton, we have similar opinions about Craig being unsuitable for Bond. I don't have many friends here in that regard.
I wish. Craig wore some fantastic suits in Quantum of Solace, and he still couldn't give a good performance.
Fun indeed
I see our friend Chula moved on from the points he lost )
Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.
I contend THUNDERBALL was not written as a film. No film deal was in place. Fleming, however, was officially approached to do TV and obviously continue with his books. And history proves me to be correct -- Fleming's THUNDERBALL did not become a film...it became his 9th book in his Bond series. So THUNDERBALL was written by Fleming not as a film, but as a book.
What are you youngsters going to come up with next: Fleming wrote THUNDERBALL to be a Broadway musical? )
My first Bond Movie in the cinema was TSWLM back in the days and yes, I have taped them, too.
As much as I appreciate our similarities - also our tastes about Dalton {[] {[] - you should be a bit more respectful to people who have deep knowledge to the topic (like Barbel) and you should be careful not making a fool (or dumpling) out of yourself with those inaccuracies boldly presented as your first contributions.
That initial impression may stick.
Welcome to AJB
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
When it comes to Bond, very few people know more than Chula. Admittedly I know zilch about the Brosnan and McQueen films. I've seen those films once, vomited, and never viewed them again. However, when it comes to the first dozen or so films, no one can match the Bond knowledge that Chula possesses. No one except for Ms. Broccoli and Mr. G. Wilson, of course. I will cede any claim of deeper knowledge to them.
Want the facts? It is Whittingham who based his THUNDERBALL screenplay on Fleming's initial "Thunderball" work.
Someone said it earlier and you are falling into a common trap.
With your friends and family, you are THE BOND GUY!
They ask you questions (often dumb ones) and you're the Master.
Coming to AJB with that attitude (I am the biggest/oldest/longes/smartest etc Bond Fan on Earth) makes you soon realise, that there are many people here with deeper knowledge to the topic than yourself.
I had to learn this and you will do it as well {[] {[]
That aside, you should be a bit more respectful to our moderators.
When you are here for over 10 years with post counts in the thousands, you may be allowed an insult or 2 or a little spanking but you have to earn that honour.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Hey, it's all just a good give and take about something rather inconsequential to the world - 007 films. If we can't have a good time talking about Bond films, then the world really is in trouble.
Particularly when you know that he is wrong
How do I know? I don't know those details, but I know 2 people here that do and Barbel is one of them.
And btw, one of my closest friends here on the forum used to work for EON for years and finds still an open door there to all staff - particularly to those that have been there for decades.
His information may be even better, deeper and more accurate than if you'd asked Babs or Mickey directly
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Pah you're barely wet behind the ears
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
You've got me!
"Better make that two."
Thanks for being there!
Wind. Up. Merchant. 8-)
There's a useful four letter word...........and he's full of it.
But seriously, I think it's relatively common knowledge that Thunderball was initially written as a film treatment.