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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,863Chief of Staff
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Well with all due respect it's hard to argue complete inaccuracy.

    Uhh, please explain where my post was inaccurate.

    Again? I've spent some time on this thread pointing out your inaccuracies- most of which you have not acknowledged.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,863Chief of Staff
    Chula wrote:
    Why do you assume Barbel has deeper knowledge than myself or anybody else? Unless Barbel is Ms. Broccoli or Mr. G. Wilson, then, no, Barbel certainly should not be given credit for having deeper knowledge than anybody else.

    It's not an assumption. My knowledge been demonstrated here many times over the years. Long term members, as opposed to newbies, know that and give me credit for it. Your knowledge has not been demonstrated...
    Chula wrote:
    My post above was the most accurate and scholarly thing ever written here.

    ...although your high opinion of yourself has. As M said in CR06 (you remember, the one you didn't think I would know was a reboot 8-) ), arrogance and self-awareness seldom go hand in hand.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,863Chief of Staff
    Chula wrote:
    I remember those days when these were the only two books about Bond:

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    That's all we had kids.

    Oh, and incidentally: wrong again.

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    (And I bought these in the sixties.)
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Long term members know that my knowledge has been demonstrated here and give me credit for it...
    Humility is the worst form of conceit.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Chula, is there anything substantial that you have to say - I mean accurate and backed with evidence - or are you only here to demonstrate what an angry and arrogant ass you are?
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I think we have an example here of someone who's believed their own incorrect and just plain wrong bond info for so long it's become ingrained in their own head as absolute fact. and therefore that ( incorrect) knowledge is unassailable. But we all know it has more holes in it than a Purvis and Wade story.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I have posted inpast that on joining a forum. It is sometimes unsettling to realise that others who know more about Bond than you (I know, I did :D ) although rather than seeing it as a problem.
    This fact should be embraced, as you now have access to all that knowledge.
    There are members here who specialise in various aspects of the books or movies. Only my opinion obviously
    but, instead of engaging, in a competition of " I'm right, you're wrong " , why not take the opportunity , to increase
    Your own knowledge of Bond by reading their well informed posts.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,863Chief of Staff
    Chula wrote:
    Humility is the worst form of conceit.

    I echo Higgins' comment: do you have anything substantial to say?
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    :v how about the second part of my question? :v
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    edited March 2017
    I have posted inpast that on joining a forum. It is sometimes unsettling to realise that others who know more about Bond than you (I know, I did :D ) although rather than seeing it as a problem.
    This fact should be embraced, as you now have access to all that knowledge.
    There are members here who specialise in various aspects of the books or movies. Only my opinion obviously
    but, instead of engaging, in a competition of " I'm right, you're wrong " , why not take the opportunity , to increase
    Your own knowledge of Bond by reading their well informed posts.

    This is so very true, my own bond journey started as far back as I have living memory, so as long as I've had teeth, and I went on my own very way and eventually the Internet became a tool I used to find out about when the next bond was coming out, I happened accross this site in my search for information, and after many years took the plunge to join my first ever forum. I was amazed at the deep well of knowledge and found similar minded people to share my hobby with, I've read and learned so much. From the music and it's composers to promotion artwork and everything inbetween, I've asked questions and on the occasion (many) I've made inaccurate posts I've been happy to be corrected, as a consequence I've made some solid virtual friends and enriched my knowledge and passion for bond. No one knows it all and we all learn something new.

    Chula, if you have indeed been on this planet as long as you say, I would have thought you would have learnt some graciousness some manners and some conversational skill but those attributes appear to have passed you by, I do hope you can prove me wrong, but somehow I doubt it.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 7,217MI6 Agent
    I echo CC's comments. I have posted before stating that I thought I knew everything about Bond but was pleasantly surprised at the amount of knowledge on these forums. This was and still is my first and only website that I am a member of and have enjoyed my time on here. Everyone has different opinions that is to be expected but there are facts that cannot be disputed and it is unfortunate when a poster does not recognise when they are wrong.

    And for the record I saw DN in the cinema in 1962 aged 6.
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Chula, if you have indeed been on this planet as long as you say, I would have thought you would have learnt some graciousness some manners and some conversational skill
    You forget that I am a New Yorker. Those traits - graciousness, manners, and conversational skills - are not something that a New Yorker possesses. In fact, we detest those traits. Want proof? Google current United States President.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Chula, if you have indeed been on this planet as long as you say, I would have thought you would have learnt some graciousness some manners and some conversational skill
    You forget that I am a New Yorker. Those traits - graciousness, manners, and conversational skills - are not something that a New Yorker possesses. In fact, we detest those traits. Want proof? Google current United States President.
    I don't accept that at all! There are other New Yorkers here who have those skills in spades.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I don't accept that at all! There are other New Yorkers here who have those skills in spades.
    They are not native New Yorkers. Probably transplants from Iowa or Ohio.

    Hey, if you don't believe me that real native New Yorkers have no use for graciousness and manners, then just Google 'current President of the United States.'
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Oh I know all about Trump. I think the whole world does now. But I've been to New York and met plenty of wonderful people. But I'll take you at your word that New Yorkers are what you say.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I don't accept that at all! There are other New Yorkers here who have those skills in spades.
    They are not native New Yorkers. Probably transplants from Iowa or Ohio.

    Hey, if you don't believe me that real native New Yorkers have no use for graciousness and manners, then just Google 'current President of the United States.'

    So basically a bunch of obnoxious A-holes then .
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    I echo Higgins' comment: do you have anything substantial to say?
    Once again, with no film deal in place, tell me exactly how Thunderball was written for film?

    You lot do not seem to want to accept that I am correct and you are cobbling together all manner of smoke and mirrors to make your argument. History - ever hear of that? - history proves that I am correct. Fleming's "Thunderball" project became, get this, a book, not a film. Got that? What Fleming wrote with Bryce, McClory, Cuneo became a BOOK! Not a film. Oh, sure it became a film later, but Thunderball's initial unveiling to the public was a Bond novel. You should read it sometime, a cracking good novel. NOVEL! Got that?

    With no film deal in place, what Fleming was really writing was the basis for another Bond novel. Fleming knew that, I know that, why don't you?
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    So basically a bunch of obnoxious A-holes then .
    How dare you!?! You do realize that Cubby Broccoli - the very reason we are all here - is a New Yorker.
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I've been to New York and met plenty of wonderful people.
    They were tourists.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    I echo Higgins' comment: do you have anything substantial to say?
    Once again, with no film deal in place, tell me exactly how Thunderball was written for film?

    You lot do not seem to want to accept that I am correct and you are cobbling together all manner of smoke and mirrors to make your argument. History - ever hear of that? - history proves that I am correct. Fleming's "Thunderball" project became, get this, a book, not a film. Got that? What Fleming wrote with Bryce, McClory, Cuneo became a BOOK! Not a film. Oh, sure it became a film later, but Thunderball's initial unveiling to the public was a Bond novel. You should read it sometime, a cracking good novel. NOVEL! Got that?

    With no film deal in place, what Fleming was really writing was the basis for another Bond novel. Fleming knew that, I know that, why don't you?

    Because Fleming used Whittingham's screenplay as a basis for his novel, at that particular time Fleming was suffering poor health and bond burnout, in your world why the hell did Whittingham and mcclory sue Fleming? Mcclory was supposed to use profits from his debut film the boy and the bridge, but that bombed at the box office. The rest is an unhappy history.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Because Fleming used Whittingham's screenplay as a basis for his novel
    Come on, man, basic Bond history is not being understood here. You have it backwards. It was Whittingham who used Fleming's work to write his screenplay.

    Did Fleming then make use of Whittingham's screenplay to finish the THUNDERBALL novel? Courts say yes, but the correct order for that novel is:
    Fleming -- Whittingham -- Fleming
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    I like to think I'm a fairly polite person, but I'm not all the time. I'm still a New Yorker. :v

    While most New Yorker's may not be polite, they will be will good people. If you are lost on the streets or subway, New Yorkers will always be happy to help. They will be blunt, but they mean well.

    And not all of the English are Roger Moore either. I've known plenty who are ruder than Daniel Craig.
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited March 2017
    Being a New Yorker as an excuse for being an idiot.
    That's something new :)) :))

    Seriously, I know a bunch of native NYers ( Isn't Blackleiter ine of them ) and they all had manners and style.

    On the other hand I am now pretty sure that that moron Asp9mm was born there as well - would explain a lot X-(
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I like to think I'm a fairly polite person, but I'm not all the time. I'm still a New Yorker. :v

    While most New Yorker's may not be polite, they will be will good people. If you are lost on the streets or subway, New Yorkers will always be happy to help. They will be blunt, but they mean well.

    And not all of the English are Roger Moore either. I've known plenty who are ruder than Daniel Craig.

    I had you in mind in a previous post. Even though you hate DC. :#
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Being a New Yorker as an excuse for being an idiot.
    That's something new :)) :))

    Seriously, I know a bunch of native NYers ( Isn't Blackleiter ine of them ) and they all had manners and style.

    I had him in mind too!
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChulaChula New YorkPosts: 39MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    If you are lost on the streets or subway, New Yorkers will always be happy to help.
    Allow me to correctly finish your sentence for you:
    If you are lost on the streets or subway...you are SCREWED!

    Let's get this conversation back to Bond. You think this New Yorker was "happy to help" and meant well?

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Chula wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Because Fleming used Whittingham's screenplay as a basis for his novel
    Come on, man, basic Bond history is not being understood here. You have it backwards. It was Whittingham who used Fleming's work to write his screenplay.

    Did Fleming then make use of Whittingham's screenplay to finish the THUNDERBALL novel? Courts say yes, but the correct order for that novel is:
    Fleming -- Whittingham -- Fleming

    On the basis that Bond and his world were Flemings sole creation then yes you're correct, but the fact is that Fleming used the screenplay to write the novel Thunderball.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    I like to think I'm a fairly polite person, but I'm not all the time. I'm still a New Yorker. :v

    While most New Yorker's may not be polite, they will be will good people. If you are lost on the streets or subway, New Yorkers will always be happy to help. They will be blunt, but they mean well.

    And not all of the English are Roger Moore either. I've known plenty who are ruder than Daniel Craig.

    I had you in mind in a previous post. Even though you hate DC. :#

    Well, thank you! Every place has friendly people and unfriendly people, good people and bad people. New Yorkers certainly show being polite in their own way. But I also see writing and talking as two very different things. The way anyone comes across online may not be a good representation of the way they are in person.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    I like to think I'm a fairly polite person, but I'm not all the time. I'm still a New Yorker. :v

    While most New Yorker's may not be polite, they will be will good people. If you are lost on the streets or subway, New Yorkers will always be happy to help. They will be blunt, but they mean well.

    And not all of the English are Roger Moore either. I've known plenty who are ruder than Daniel Craig.

    I had you in mind in a previous post. Even though you hate DC. :#

    Well, thank you! Every place has friendly people and unfriendly people, good people and bad people. New Yorkers certainly show being polite in their own way. But I also see writing and talking as two very different things. The way anyone comes across online may not be a good representation of the way they are in person.

    It is to be hoped we are currently seeing a case in point.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Revolver66 wrote:
    Well seeing as Die Another Day was my first Bond film in the cinema, I guess that completely discounts me from contributing anything meaningful to this discussion :))

    But seriously, I think it's relatively common knowledge that Thunderball was initially written as a film treatment.

    It must indeed be common knowledge as I believe it to be the case. :007)
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
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