'ALL IN' by Fez - Poker Painting - 250 Ltd READY to GO!

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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    I think what's happening here is a catch 22.

    Mick can't give a price as his printer will need to know how many he has to print.

    You guys can't say whether you want it as you don't know the price.

    It's a stalemate.

    Mick, just a suggestion but how about asking the printer for prices for a run of 10, 20 and 30 prints? (Add your shipping and profit before stating the price here) That way any potential buyers can at least estimate a ballpark figure and then make a choice. You can then set a date for the hands to be put up but and then you'll have a definite number of buyers to state to your printer for a more precise quote. From that you can account for your shipping costs and profit margin and then state the final 'all in' (couldn't resist) price.

    So if you have 15 names, get a quote for say 10, 20, and maybe 30 prints off your printer. The printer gives you a figure for each and you tell everyone here the HIGHEST cost. The more prints you have made, the less the price each from the printer should be.

    That way, if you have more people put their hands up than the amount you've quoted people here for, the price should come down, not go up and you'll have happy customers instead of people saying "he said it was a tenner, now it's twenty!".

    People prefer it when the price comes down instead of goes up :))

    Hope that helps, good luck.

    MG -{
    'Force feeding AJB humour and banter since 2009'
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  • Mister GreeneMister Greene Posts: 224MI6 Agent
    Any movement on this?
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Any movement on this?

    Only in my gastrointestinal tract vomit.gif
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  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    As ever, minijeff talks sense 8-)

    Mick get prices for runs of 5, 10, 20, etc...

    Most of those who signed up will be fine with a sensible price for a limited print, but this isn't going to make anyone a fortune....

    That said well done in seeing a project through, not something that happens on ajb a lot. {[]
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Any movement on this?

    Only in my gastrointestinal tract vomit.gif

    have you been poisened again by a snake again and feeling bad now? :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Grrrr 8-) How many times do I have to tell you that snakes are venomous :(|) None are poisonous, you can eat them all.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    .... you can eat them all.

    ... and that's all what counts for me :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    Asp9mm wrote:
    .... you can eat them all.

    ... and that's all what counts for me :D

    Anything long and wriggly around and you can't wait to get it in your mouth.... :D
    'Force feeding AJB humour and banter since 2009'
    Vive le droit à la libre expression! Je suis Charlie!
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    no, it has to be barbequed at first......
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    Ok everyone - time to break the silence with this now, Thanks for your continued
    interest in this project and a big thanks for everyone who has posted up and all
    of the advice had been great... I appreciate it a lot and your support has been
    fantastic.... Kind Comment's and good sound advice all round..... -{ :)

    Ok the truth of the matter is this; The Painting's Ltd Edition Numbers and its release
    formats, Printing Costs etc Everything was actually all finalized before Christmas. with
    the intention to get it out for then.... Then at that point My family & I lost a close friend,
    which came as a bit of a shock, to us all. Then work commenced with our house which
    resulted in a lot of moving stuff around and into storage, due to Gas Work's and a few
    renovation jobs.... Then once all that was out of the way - Not long after I posted up
    the Preview of the finished painting, I then got the chance of a big commission job
    outwith my usual line of work, so undertook that, also been working on a few car
    restorations in between all this, with a friend of mines & some projects from a long time
    back resurfaced which I had to finish and give full concentration and time to.

    So basically from about November till 2 week ago, it has just been one thing after another
    and I have had little time to think. I didn't want to give the ''green light'' on this until I had
    everything sorted and out of the way, I didn't want to take peoples deposits and have to
    keep them on hold due to circumstances that had nothing to do with the Painting which
    were standing in the way of it.... so for the delay I want to apologize sincerely to all of those
    who have a keen interest in the finished article

    I can now HAPPILY REPORT: that 'ALL IN' by 'Fez' will be released later on today with
    a full preview, ordering details and prices..... thanks again guys..... Kind Regards. Mick :007)
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    edited April 2013
    POST REMOVED to Avoid Confusion with latest POST UP & Release Numbers & Info

    Thanks .... Mick
  • texas007texas007 Houston, Texas 77041Posts: 2,356MI6 Agent
    wow edition of 1,000 and 10,000 -{

    40 X 10,000 = 400,000
  • AdamCarterJonesAdamCarterJones UKPosts: 303MI6 Agent
    I think the edition sizes for each are too high.

    SpyGuise' released an officially licensed Thunderball quad-sized piece a few years ago; think the edition size was 5000 and they sold out. The piece above is tribute/fan art, essentially, so I can't see it selling out any time soon.

    The guy who put on the exhibition at the Hospital Club in London around the release of Skyfall had 500 copies of his poster printed and they didn't sell out and were reasonably priced, and the image, though lacking any actual person, was quite striking.

    However, on the upside, if you are going to let all the major art websites have a go at selling it then it could do rather well, but this would obviously mean selling at a discount.
    Best wishes,
    Adam Carter-Jones
    Bondposters.com - FREE James Bond Poster Reference site
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    edited February 2013
    IMO numbers are too high for both; size of the runs and prices.

    And overall artwork, not my cup of tea.

    Anyway, Thanks for sharing this and good luck with the sales -{


    Edit: Btw, a picture of the actual poster print/canvas could be a good idea to share with potential buyers :007)
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

    TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"

    Formerly known as Teppo
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    sorry if I didn't get it right.

    Wasn't the thing meant to be an exclusive limited run of reproductions of this painting and we are now about potentially 11000 units?

    I don't understand now the entire endeavour - getting old :(
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • texas007texas007 Houston, Texas 77041Posts: 2,356MI6 Agent
    Yes - it would be good for buyers to see the actual products first.
    I had done these before and had ran into problems with quality which causes me to basically redo everything - but for me quality come first and I offer 100% satisfaction guarantee :D . I know other poeple who would just ship inferior products out without care.
    Teppo wrote:
    IMO numbers are too high for both; size of the runs and prices.

    And overall artwork, not my cup of tea.

    Anyway, Thanks for sharing this and good luck with the sales -{


    Edit: Btw, a picture of the actual poster print/canvas could be a good idea to share with potential buyers :007)
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    edited February 2013
    And then from his fuzzy dream Mick awoke :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgehkMV7IbU :D :v
  • VoituerVoituer Posts: 483MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    And then from his fuzzy dream Mick awoke :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgehkMV7IbU :D :v


    there is something seriously wrong with you............really seriously wrong :))
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    Voituer wrote:
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    And then from his fuzzy dream Mick awoke :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgehkMV7IbU :D :v


    there is something seriously wrong with you............really seriously wrong :))

    And you have only just noticed ? :D
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Voituer wrote:


    there is something seriously wrong with you............really seriously wrong :))

    Please tell us something that we did NOT already know :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • VoituerVoituer Posts: 483MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    Voituer wrote:


    there is something seriously wrong with you............really seriously wrong :))

    Please tell us something that we did NOT already know :D

    Good point
    note to self - be more original :D

    -{
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    Ok Sound advice across the board again...... :)) even the humorous
    filled post ups :) .......... Pete :)) its all in good fun. Ha Ha

    OK everyone, Since this topic / project, did start off on here and it was
    this page that drove it forward, over the long time it took to see the
    light of day.

    The Main issue is the LTD Edition Numbers...... Ok fair and understandable
    points from everyone, I do have a small running list of orders as it stands
    just now due to get printed this coming week, BUT like I say I would rather
    see you guy's opinions and thoughts enforced - Even from the guys not
    wanting or buying one, your opinions and thoughts and experience is still
    valued and appreciated.

    Ok the SALE PRICE of each version is NOT going to change regardless of
    the Ltd Edition Run number.... that is set.

    Regarding the Poster Form & Canvas - I wanted to make it available in a form
    that was affordable to the young and avid collector and fan BUT also in the
    form of canvas for the high end collector. I just thought that was a fair thing to
    do.

    Regarding the numbers...... OK I think I have been a bit over the top, Although
    orders have been placed, no SALES have been sent out so the Ltd No. can be
    reduced.

    Do you guys have an issue with it being available as a Poster & Canvas? or just
    the Ltd Numbers of both?

    I got talking to a friend of a friend who runs one of these high street Gallery's
    selling Ltd Edition Artworks etc.... since posting up the other night, and he advised
    myself and the artist to re-think the Ltd Run Number, he also thinks the price should
    Go UP... But I am not for that. I just think the Ltd Run Number needs changing.

    I will also Post up Photos of the finished Piece hanging on a few walls in a few different
    environments - I think that is good Advice.... I think I have just been a bit premature
    posting this up. it was going on and on, and after getting everything in place with the
    printers and seeing a few samples I just wanted it up and running, so like I say maybe
    I jumped the gun a little & Like I say nothing has been sent out or signed and Numbered
    so everything is open to change.

    Please appreciate the fact that I nor the artist has released anything Ltd Edition like this
    before so everything is a learning curve, to get it right.

    what are the thoughts regarding the poster Numbers & Canvas Numbers?

    would 300 Ltd Run of Canvas Prints & 1,000 Poster's be ok with everyone?

    Or would everyone preffer it if it was Just the canvas prints avilable and NO POSTERS

    Would be good to hear your thoughts on the revised plan?

    Cheers...... Mick
  • piratesolopiratesolo Posts: 4MI6 Agent
    My 2 cents...

    I would say make a canvas available to 100 people, or at least enough for everyone who was on your running list from the start, sign and number them.( but on the front not the back)

    Then sell as many signed posters as you posibly can... don't set a limit. This way your not over commited to a printing company and you can continue to make money on it for you and the artist, or what ever you 2 have agreed to. If you want to do a run of numbered prints on paper I would agree with you, to keep it below or right at 1,000.

    I still want a canvas regardless... did you get my email?
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Nice one mick.... -{

    I was on the original list Mick,

    And remain "All in"..... 8-)
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    edited February 2013
    piratesolo: I got a PM from you some time back and replied to it via private
    messaging on here.... Don't remember seeing an email to me from you, will
    check again, No matter anyway.... Good to hear you are ALL IN :) yea a Naff
    Joke. But ke02eww got the ball rolling, with that one :)) :)) :)

    Good to hear you are also still in ke02eww :007)

    piratesolo I think that is very good advice you have stated and its more than
    welcome. My main reason for wanting to make the Poster version a Ltd Number is to
    make, even the lower cost version, something that bit more special to the fan who can
    only OR will only stretch to the £40 region for a collectable, it may even be someone
    buying it for their little lads bedroom wall, or a friends Birthday etc, I think the Poster
    being ''Ltd'' just makes it that little bit more special - Having the Poster UNLIMITED will
    ultimately put it in the category of a £3 film poster from any high street DVD shop or
    Supermarket etc and not a nice collectors Item for the fan... thats just my feelings on it,
    but you make good points too.

    The Canvas versions mounted will be supirior to the Poster, that just stands to reason,
    although the poster will be professionally printed at the highest of quality etc the more
    work that goes into the Canvas will be clear...... back to the old saying ''You Get What You
    Pay For'' like most things in life, But if someone prefers posters to canvas mounted pieces
    then they are getting a Bargain.

    One person on the order list just now is a Bond fan, who is an avid fan BUT her dad is a
    massive Bond fan, so she is wanting the poster for herself & the canvas version for her
    dad, from that order and explanation behind making both versions Ltd Editions, shows the
    right choice has been made to supply both versions for the reasons she wanted both for,
    But like I say the poster being Ltd makes it that bit more special, rather than a run of the mill
    poster from anywhere on the high street.

    One thing to remember also, is that the running list on here is not the worldwide level of interest
    entirely in this Artwork, It's getting loads of interest via the Facebook pages, Private messages &
    emails etc, and on a few other Forums, I still plan to display it at a few Collectors Events in the UK
    and advertise it through a few contacts over in the states at events to drum up interests too.
    But I can see me not needing to do this based on the levels of interest.... Myself & The Artist and
    a few others are now involved in more artworks Based on interested parties seeing ''ALL IN''
    finished - with a Horror Movie themed piece & a Dr. Who Painting in the works, So in a way ''ALL IN''
    has already established more than what was expected of it and thats not including the up and coming
    orders for it itself.

    The main reason I am coming back to this page & seeking approval and opinions from you guys on here
    ( like I say interested parties in ordering OR not ) is because the project was born on these forums and
    this page and it would be a comforting thing to know you guys were happy with the Ltd Numbers and all
    of your opinions were considered and put into practice, rather than 'The Rollin List'' and other guys who
    posted up early on etc parting company and saying ''the numbers are too high, end of'' I am coming back
    with the aim to change it's planned Ltd Run, to suit the views and opinions on here and find a good balance
    between the feeling on here and also from other collectors and other channels where is is being spoke about
    and generating interest.... I don't know how much more fair I can honestly be.... we are not out to sell A million
    of these, Far from it, we want it to be an exclusive artwork that people on here and elsewhere will be happy with
    seeing available.

    Also some of the guys on the running list of interest, have confirmed their orders & some backed out after the final
    piece was revealed, and that is all understandable and cool with myself and the artist... no worries at all - it was
    always stated that interest was pending finished piece, so thats fine, But the guys who backed out's opinions still
    matter a great deal and are appreciated.

    Like I say I have explained what the Situation is as it stands just now.

    I will leave it at that for now & Post up a few detailed shots of the produced variations this week, fresh from the
    Canvas & Poster Printers and hopefully by mid this coming week, the Ltd Number can be set in stone and we can
    start getting these sent out.

    Thanks to all who have contributed to this project with on going advice and input :007)
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 986MI6 Agent
    Pierce and Daniel look great in the painting. Some of the other Bonds do look like they've had their heads glommed on to different bodies though lol.
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    urhash: Pierce and Daniel look great in the painting. Some of the other Bonds do look like they've had their heads glommed on to different bodies though lol.

    I wasn't going to reply to this just now, :)) I was going to leave it until I am able to post up Photos of the
    first produced Canvas Mounts etc..... BUT I felt I was going to have to say something, as people might read
    too much into a silence, as if avoiding a Statement / Question :)) :)

    Ok regarding your feeling about some of the heads :) The Reason as far as I could work out, why some people
    might see that in the painting, was because the artist when painting this piece started it; he went head on into
    it, fell away from it, had loads of stuff going on with work and personal life etc, then he would come back to it
    when he had some free time, then left it for a long while again, then got back to it. I have photos and build up
    that shows the guys etc painted up in the finished original as well as in individual studies etc. But I took some
    of them down since the final version has been shown.... I thought the main reason as to why it may feel the way
    you have stated... was because I could remember seeing, Craig was painted in at the same time the background
    and environment around him was being built up, earlier on in the painting, I think Brosnan was done in a Similar
    way too... But the other Guys were done in a way where the background and surrounding bodies and
    environment. were painted in first down to the point where their bodies / dinner suits etc meet & then later on
    the facial features & heads were built up on that.... all of the above is what I assumed when I saw the finished
    piece, based on memories and photos of its build up...... and I thought maybe the artist altered styles in the
    periods of working on it and being away from it.

    Ok after chatting to The Artist this morning.... He told me, This was not done because he was only working on it
    when he could ( like I assumed - for the different styles of build up for each actor OR maybe ended up combining
    several different styles ) He said this was a decision made early on, its to Do with the Spectrum of Light panning
    around the Poker Table, the intention was to make the guys in the middle between the opposites at each side
    of the painting stand out more because the light is more on them, Hence why Craig & Brosnan's heads and face
    blend in more to the backgrounds and environments (Like you have stated & spotted) as those guys are more in
    the shadows than the guys in the center below the overhead Table Light..

    When I visited the artist, to quickly see how it was coming along & what stage it was at, we didn't discuss
    anything to do with elements of shadow and painting, they were just quick flying visits, I myself am only just
    finding out what was the thinking behind some of the choices of styles and detailing was, in relation to
    Feedback I have put forward to the artist since its first showing.

    Please remember it is a Painting a creation from Scratch, its easier to get shadows and environment lighting spot
    on when you are painting an exact copy / replica from a studio photograph / freeze frame from a film, which this
    if not.... it was a case of looking at each of them from several reference photos and recreating them from scratch
    again in a newly created environment with new lighting which had to relate to all different characters & a new
    environment.

    Artwork, Design, Replication etc is Never going to please everyone, that's just human nature, some will see
    something as good & some as bad, some will see good and bad in the same thing.... After the Artist explained
    the idea of this choice of style in the Painting to me I understand the thinking behind it better now than before.
    All paintings feature gambles, choices: some that pay off, some that maybe didn't - like I say some people will
    see something as working well and get it, some will think it doesn't work at all - and both opinions and views
    are as valid and relevant as each other; this is a main reason why many painters have stated, that a Painting
    could go on forever, with constant changing of detail, shading, features etc based on the artists feelings after
    walking away from a piece then going back to it as well as feedback from others.

    The Idea of 'Fez' using Digital / Comp Trickery in his work is pretty funny - If you knew him. He borrows His Brothers
    Laptop when he wants to send an Email.... and even then, he sometimes needs a hand, the guy is so out of touch
    with technology, you would swear he was from a different era.... But that's the way he likes things and I think that's
    pretty cool. He sits in his little studio at home he made himself, painting away, happy developing his portfolio of work.
    Himself and a few other Artists he knows have a Public Exhibition of work on show at some point this year. Early on
    in this Topic I posted up samples of his work, the only stuff That was permitted to be posted up, Many other works
    could not be shown due to a clash of ''public domain interests'' from people who commissioned him to Paint before this.

    Cheers..... Mick :007)
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    Hi Mick

    Thanks for the email

    Although I have my own reservations which I have communicated privately, I don't believe we should be getting on Mick's back here, he has taken an idea and pushed it through to fruition and for that he should be roundly applauded. If it were not for artisans such as Mick and Fez then our collections would be a far poorer place. Because this piece is unique and not copied like a prop would be everybody has their own take and opinion on it, some can't wait to get it into their collections and on the wall, others not so. So be it. Mick I appreciate your efforts and long may they continue. I don't think you need to justify anything. {[]
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    edited April 2013
    Thanks for the kind Words of support and encouragement. Appreciated

    Its now finally Available and in The Flesh as it where ( as per everyone's advice )

    We have lowered the numbers and went with it ( again as per advice on here )

    thanks for all the advice that has been given throughout the postings up on here,
    like I said before, no matter if it was critical / friendly / good advice, it has all been
    appreciated and taken on board.

    This took a lot of smoothing out with processing and ordering, But things are now
    running like Clockwork and we have a nice list of orders now, a few going off to
    customers and collectors this week.

    The Photos Don't do the Finished Piece Justice in all honesty.. Hope to get more photos
    from Customers and Reviews and Feedback this week and next


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    just wonder if anyone actually bought any of these - no feedback, review ? ?:)
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