Judi Dench will return.

Not sure how 'new' this news is, but saw this today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12296844

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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Well, of course she will. Be nice if she got 'whacked' this time round :v
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  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    Aw fudge! The reign of the incompetent M continues. What poor leadership skills and/or reckless endangerment will she be involved in this time?
  • JohnNintendoNerdJohnNintendoNerd Lake Elmo, MinnesotaPosts: 48MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    Aw fudge! The reign of the incompetent M continues. What poor leadership skills and/or reckless endangerment will she be involved in this time?


    I never like to wish death on anyone I don't know, but I wonder what the Bond producers would do if Dame Judi Dench suddenly collapsed dead on the set of Bond 23 from natural causes....Because then the producers finally have to get their fingers out of their asses and find a NEW actor to play M for CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!!!!
    "Your orders were to shoot that sniper!"

    "Stuff my orders! I only kill professionals. That woman didn't know one end of a rifle from the other. Go ahead, tell M. what you want. If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    PTS, M gets it. New M one of Bonds Old Commanding Officers ( who dosen't like his way of working ), Ahhhhh....... Back to Bond getting chewed out instead of "Mothered" :)
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    PTS, M gets it. New M one of Bonds Old Commanding Officers ( who dosen't like his way of working ), Ahhhhh....... Back to Bond getting chewed out instead of "Mothered" :)

    Indeed--matter of fact, there's been a plan in place for quite a while:

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/30362/denchs-m-must-die/

    :v
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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Yep - there was another site that reported this:
    "Legendary British actress Dame Judi Dench says she wants to continue playing secret service agent M in the 007 franchise until she dies.

    Speaking at the South Bank Sky Arts Awards, she told BANG Showbiz: "I love Bond. I get to work with Daniel Craig on location and wear some rather sharp suits.

    "I'll do it as long as they ask if I'm alive that long," Contactmusic quoted her as saying."

    I like the chemistry between M and Bond - but like stated above, I too think it would be great to see her killed off...... especially in Craig's tenure..... but who knows what will happen :v
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  • Smoke_13Smoke_13 Kitchener Ont CanadaPosts: 285MI6 Agent
    I cant stress enough that dame Judi Dench has run her course. I'm so sick of the "Bond the Renegade Agent" bit. "Hold Bond's cards! Suspend 007! YAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNN!

    I really want to see the whole literary Bond - M relationship. But, I guess having an employer that you like and are fiercely loyal to just isn't fashionable by today's standards. People seem to want the story of the working guy who stuffs it in the face of the man and is proven correct at the end.

    The literary Bond cared about M's approval. He looked up to M and it was important to Bond that M recognized him as a good agent. The feeling of respect between the two grew as the books went on...well, until Bond tried to kill M -but that was a stretch by Fleming (or someone writing on his behalf) but that's a whole other thread.

    Bond and M have a relationship in the novels that has never been touched on in the film series and it's a real shame. It's one of the more interesting side stories in the novels. You'll never get that with dame Judy...and that's a shame.
  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    Well, I for one am happy tpo have her back.

    I know that's not a popular idea with all you ladykillers out there, but I think she is doing a fine job, and it does lend a little continuïty that i have found lacking during other era's.

    Go ahead, bring on the ridicule. I just have a different opinion on this one. -{
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  • JohnNintendoNerdJohnNintendoNerd Lake Elmo, MinnesotaPosts: 48MI6 Agent
    Well, I for one am happy tpo have her back.

    I know that's not a popular idea with all you ladykillers out there, but I think she is doing a fine job, and it does lend a little continuïty that i have found lacking during other era's.

    Go ahead, bring on the ridicule. I just have a different opinion on this one. -{


    She's been M for way too long through. Is she gonna end up like Bernard Lee and die between the filming of Bond 28 and Bond 29?
    "Your orders were to shoot that sniper!"

    "Stuff my orders! I only kill professionals. That woman didn't know one end of a rifle from the other. Go ahead, tell M. what you want. If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Martin Shaw for M after Judi.

    personally, being as i started in the world of bond at GE, im a bit of a fan of judi's. think she's done ok, but i could imagine martin shaw doing a decent job.
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    PTS, M gets it. New M one of Bonds Old Commanding Officers ( who dosen't like his way of working ), Ahhhhh....... Back to Bond getting chewed out instead of "Mothered" :)
    Gets killed at the end so new M for new Bond[Cavill] for Bond 24.
    Michael Kitchner or Robert Lindsey[see him in Hornblower ideal M material imo] would be good.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    The problem with a female M is that the dynamic is that of Queen Elizabeth I and one of her renegade sea heroes, you see them with Errol Flynn in the role usually. It's okay but he always has to get 'scolded' while she winkingly turns a blind eye to his maverick ways when it suits her. It gets awfully repetitive.
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    With 22 feature length movies in the bag, creativity is not something to expect with any outing of 007. Hopfully the new Director can keep the movie tight and focused. IMO one of the flaws in QOS was M's dialog - very "out of sync" with what was going on in the film.

    Worse than keeping Dench, the producers continue to igonore the thrillers and stick with Purvis & Wade for a script. Dame Judy likes her "sharp suits", and time with DC. Why should she want to quit?

    As long as the same writers are on board, who plays M will matter very little. At least we have been spared the irrasible "Q" and the mooning Moneypenny. Kill Dame Judy? No way, Kidnap her and put her in a jail cell - yeah that's it!
  • JohnNintendoNerdJohnNintendoNerd Lake Elmo, MinnesotaPosts: 48MI6 Agent
    The problem with a female M is that the dynamic is that of Queen Elizabeth I and one of her renegade sea heroes, you see them with Errol Flynn in the role usually. It's okay but he always has to get 'scolded' while she winkingly turns a blind eye to his maverick ways when it suits her. It gets awfully repetitive.

    I guess Martin Campbell didn't mind the repetitive nature of Dame Judi Dench's performance because after all he only did one film with her prior to Casino Royale....Still I think Campbell was an idiot for not recasting her because he didn't take into account the fact that thee AUDIENCE might have been sick of her. Because they did have to put up with her for four films before Casino Royale was shot. But unfortunately Judi Dench's M is the one relic that Daniel Craig happened to inherit from the Pierce Brosnan Era and quite frankly I hope that no other Bond actor has the misfortune of inheriting her.
    "Your orders were to shoot that sniper!"

    "Stuff my orders! I only kill professionals. That woman didn't know one end of a rifle from the other. Go ahead, tell M. what you want. If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    "The car came out of nowhere. Neither Bond nor M saw it until it was upon them. Simultaneously, the sound of a blaring horn seemed to assault them and the shock was visceral. The window was down, and the pale plump buttocks squeezed from the rubber-ringed cavity mockingly, a raw revenge on the world, a goosing in reverse.
    With a squeal of brakes the car turned and the white morass retracted inside the dark saloon, its owner shielded by the tinted windows. Within seconds it was out of sight.
    'That bloody Moneypenny!' exclaimed M. 'She will keep doing that!'
    'Arse antics...' murmered Bond."
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Never been a fan of Dame Judi's 'M' so this is not great news for me. Really tired of her now and have to agree with other posters that her retirement is overdue.
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    I don't mind her...but often her character is written appallingly bad. The only time I really cared for her was in TND, where she displayed competence, strength, and loyalty to Bond (while not undermining her authority).

    If the writer's quit treating her like 007's enemy, and portraying her as the dean from Animal House, I would enjoy her a lot more.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Judi Dench is light years ahead of the last actor to play M, who was just about as disapproving but stuffy and boring to boot. But she's no spring chicken, so the pinhead financiers at MGM better hurry so they canmake more films with her.
  • Willie GarvinWillie Garvin Posts: 1,412MI6 Agent
    EON should kill her off in the pre title sequence.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I'm with you, Mr. White. I enjoy Dame Judi's portrayal of M, and I would like to see her last as long as Craig is Bond. After that, time to re-cast the role.
    Well, I for one am happy tpo have her back.

    I know that's not a popular idea with all you ladykillers out there, but I think she is doing a fine job, and it does lend a little continuïty that i have found lacking during other era's.

    Go ahead, bring on the ridicule. I just have a different opinion on this one. -{
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  • Q and MQ and M IrelandPosts: 171MI6 Agent
    just found out that dench will be 78 by the time bond23 is released in 2012
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,816MI6 Agent
    Sorry guys - I am another one in the pro Dame Judi as M camp.

    IN Casino R the only real blunder was the fact she travelled out the Bahamas. - That seemed a little too much of shoehorning in the character, when use of Tanner would have seemed more appropriate there. I liked the fact that Bond's boss is one character where the actor survives the reboot, but the character has altered from being a novelty by being a woman in charge, to being a character who is established. - Her reference to missing the Cold war.

    However - I do agree thwe writing of the character and her dynamics with Bond need to change. QoS made a lot of mistakes, but one that made me cringe is when Camille asks Bond if M is his Mother, and he replies "she likes to think so!" Its a banner board to the problem. Hopefully if the script is tightened up, and we get to see at least one of the other 00s this problem can be fixed.

    As to bumping off M - it wouldn't work. Bond is surrounded by death and bloodshed. This would be tipping the scales too far. What would it say about MI6 if she was assassinated? M is a supporting character in the structure of Bond, the one where less is much more, at the top of a pyramid which includes Tanner, MPenny Leiter and of course Q. They need to re-establish that Pyramid, and perhaps expand it a bit. - Colin Salmon was very good as Robertson, and they have expeimented with other supporing MI6 characters - R, Dr Warmflash etc.

    They can get this right, Dame Judi is a great actress, she just needs to be given the right material to work with. Oner thing I did note is in that snippet she says she has worked with Sam Mendes in the theatre. That in itself gives some promise!
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    As to bumping off M - it wouldn't work. Bond is surrounded by death and bloodshed. This would be tipping the scales too far. What would it say about MI6 if she was assassinated?

    That no one is safe from Quantum B-) And rather than have it turn Bond into a revenge machine yet again, if done well it could give him the fatalistic flippance that would be a linch-pin for the complete, rounded character.

    I don't think it will ever happen. More's the pity.
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  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    Great actress, fantastic M and every inch the British lady. I'm in the camp of keeping her on for Craig's tenure.

    Good news she's back and I, for one, abhor the idea of her M being "whacked". I'd actually like to see her last scene at the very end of the film, with her retirement do at Vauxhall Bridge being interrupted by a call from Bond (liker her bath in QoS), immediately after her speech from accepting her carriage clock or whatever, and while the party continues it's a simple exchange of words...along the lines of "I did say you'd never have to worry about me. Mission complete. All the best. <click>" [Bond and Love interest interlude] End.

    There's no need for blood and drama for the sake of it, there's enough of that with the reboot as it is.

    (Helen Mirren for a Bond's eye rolling "You've got to be kidding me?" moment next time round? ;) :)) )
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    The only trouble with killing off M is we will have another computer platform game format of a revenge-seeking Bond. I would like to see the objective, cold side of Bond emerge once more. However, I really am done with seeing the old bint taking off her makeup while talking to the office...
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  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,707MI6 Agent
    EON should kill her off in the pre title sequence.


    I agree. Nothing gruesome. Something simple, and painless, and very, very quick. :v
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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    As to bumping off M - it wouldn't work. Bond is surrounded by death and bloodshed. This would be tipping the scales too far. What would it say about MI6 if she was assassinated?

    That no one is safe from Quantum B-) And rather than have it turn Bond into a revenge machine yet again, if done well it could give him the fatalistic flippance that would be a linch-pin for the complete, rounded character.

    I don't think it will ever happen. More's the pity.

    That's exactly the scenario that would be great to explore..... as discussed in the other thread that Loeff mentions, it would be a very interesting angle to explore.... Bond, and by that, I mean Craig's Bond.... who has lost Vesper - then looses M - and as hinted at in QoS, seems a Mother figure - well I think it could be the turning point to his character development. Like Loeff says, if done right.... makes Bond - not breaks him.

    But if the reports are right, you might just see Judi as M outlive Craig as Bond :))
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    Lexi wrote:
    As to bumping off M - it wouldn't work. Bond is surrounded by death and bloodshed. This would be tipping the scales too far. What would it say about MI6 if she was assassinated?

    That no one is safe from Quantum B-) And rather than have it turn Bond into a revenge machine yet again, if done well it could give him the fatalistic flippance that would be a linch-pin for the complete, rounded character.

    I don't think it will ever happen. More's the pity.

    That's exactly the scenario that would be great to explore..... as discussed in the other thread that Loeff mentions, it would be a very interesting angle to explore.... Bond, and by that, I mean Craig's Bond.... who has lost Vesper - then looses M - and as hinted at in QoS, seems a Mother figure - well I think it could be the turning point to his character development. Like Loeff says, if done right.... makes Bond - not breaks him.

    But if the reports are right, you might just see Judi as M outlive Craig as Bond :))
    Heres hoping
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,353MI6 Agent
    PTS, M gets it. New M one of Bonds Old Commanding Officers ( who dosen't like his way of working ), Ahhhhh....... Back to Bond getting chewed out instead of "Mothered" :)

    Indeed--matter of fact, there's been a plan in place for quite a while:

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/30362/denchs-m-must-die/

    :v

    Or even earlier!

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/328512/#p328512
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,816MI6 Agent
    edited January 2011
    Great actress, fantastic M and every inch the British lady. I'm in the camp of keeping her on for Craig's tenure.

    Good news she's back and I, for one, abhor the idea of her M being "whacked". I'd actually like to see her last scene at the very end of the film, with her retirement do at Vauxhall Bridge being interrupted by a call from Bond (liker her bath in QoS), immediately after her speech from accepting her carriage clock or whatever, and while the party continues it's a simple exchange of words...along the lines of "I did say you'd never have to worry about me. Mission complete. All the best. <click>" [Bond and Love interest interlude] End.

    There's no need for blood and drama for the sake of it, there's enough of that with the reboot as it is.

    (Helen Mirren for a Bond's eye rolling "You've got to be kidding me?" moment next time round? ;) :)) )

    I like that idea as M's closing scene very much. - Has a certain style and quality to it that I would say is worthy of Flemming. Helen Mirren? Not so sure. She has played the hard nosed woman boss a lot in the past, it wold be too much too soon.

    Mini-G - I think Martin S is a great idea, - but I doubt he would do it. He said on one interview - I think in Radio Times? He had been approached about Bond years ago when The Professionals were on the go. He wasn't interested, it was not for him. I got the impression he was thinking of Bond as a project overall, not just the lead character. My casting Couch options? Michael Caine, Alan Rickman, Brian Cox, or Ian Holm.
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