Mi6 martial arts training

DanielCraig007

Does anyone know what kind of martial arts training real Mi6 agents go through?

thesecretagent

I know nothing of MI6 training, but I do know that MI5 security and field officers get a mixture of judo, ju-jitsu and some boxing/kick-boxing. Mostly it is advanced restraining techniques and like many people in the field the repetoire is limited, but extremely well practised. I taught unarmed combat/CQB on specialist courses in the army and there are probably no more than a dozen moves - but you are taught to do them with damn near 100% effectiveness first time.

Thunderpussy

I know nothing of Military Combat techniques,But I'm guessing there are more Lethal Moves in it, But I've studied Wado Ryu Karate and always remember being told. What you learn for your first Belt,all the basic Punches,Kicks,Locks and a couple of throws are all you're ever likley to use in a Normal Fight. Everything else is just for grades etc.
I've alwas depended on Being a Big Fat Ugly B*****d to get me out of most situations, I look Mean but I'm really a Pussycat ! )

thesecretagent

Thunderpussy wrote:

I know nothing of Military Combat techniques,But I'm guessing there are more Lethal Moves in it, But I've studied Wado Ryu Karate and always remember being told. What you learn for your first Belt,all the basic Punches,Kicks,Locks and a couple of throws are all you're ever likley to use in a Normal Fight. Everything else is just for grades etc.
I've alwas depended on Being a Big Fat Ugly B*****d to get me out of most situations, I look Mean but I'm really a Pussycat ! )

Absolutely right. Everything you learn to the 1st grading is all you'll ever need. What comes afterwards is honing those skills further, understanding of kata and form and basically a tier system to weed out people on the journey towards blackbelt and further rankings still. Wado Ryu is a very pure form of karate (and personally, I think the most rounded). I've also done shotokan, budjinkai, kyokushinkai - as well as ju-jitsu and judo. You can't keep one style in a box, but if Icould and had to use just one it would be Wado Ryu.

007DAN

I have done martial arts for 25 years, and prefered Aikido, until I came across this.

http://krav-maga.com/

As already mentioned, there are about 5 moves in Aikido which are of any use on the streets but Krav Maga is just brutal. It us so effective and uses all of the benefits of other martial arts that are useable in the streets and just makes them even more useable and effective.

thesecretagent

After the army I worked in close protection for five years. Krav Maga is quite popular on the circuit and takes the basics from many martial arts. I've done a bit casually, sparring with others who have learnt elsewhere. I don't think it's something you can teach someone who isn't a natural combatant. Forget martial arts for a moment - strikes, punches, kicks and locks/holds/grappling have existed for as long as man has fought oneanother. The Romans and ancient greeks had many fighting techniques identical to what developed centuries later in the far east. Krav Maga is much like this, it's just an amalgamation of what works best - and then it's down to the individual.

Lexi

thesecretagent wrote:

Absolutely right. Everything you learn to the 1st grading is all you'll ever need.

Good to know.... my 6 year old is learning this, already has his red belt (bless...he's the youngest in the class) - and is practicing his break falls and front kicks to the detriment of my furniture )

Here he is with his instructor....

Mr_Ice

I like Kava Maga: I train with some guys on the side that are into it. I'm a bit put off by the $180 US per month dues the local place wants for instruction. For that much bread, I better be able to make someone's heart stop from across the room with my eyebrow. The cops I train are generally concerned about controlling the situation with as little injury of the assailant as possible. They can't just beat the guy into a greasy spot on the ground to gain control. This may or may not be a concern for a real MI6 agent, no idea about that: but it seems like an MI6 agent would want to do as little as possible and get away. 'Winning' a fight is probably not the concern.

Lexi, that pic of your son is fantastic. Looks like me ...um..thirty...um..something...years ago...
His training will serve him well.

Lexi

Mr_Ice wrote:

Lexi, that pic of your son is fantastic. Looks like me ...um..thirty...um..something...years ago...
His training will serve him well.

;% Oh, thank you! :x Of course, I would agree with you..... but then, I am slightly biased

zaphod

Mr_Ice wrote:

I like Kava Maga: I train with some guys on the side that are into it. I'm a bit put off by the $180 US per month dues the local place wants for instruction. For that much bread, I better be able to make someone's heart stop from across the room with my eyebrow. The cops I train are generally concerned about controlling the situation with as little injury of the assailant as possible. They can't just beat the guy into a greasy spot on the ground to gain control. This may or may not be a concern for a real MI6 agent, no idea about that: but it seems like an MI6 agent would want to do as little as possible and get away. 'Winning' a fight is probably not the concern.

Lexi, that pic of your son is fantastic. Looks like me ...um..thirty...um..something...years ago...
His training will serve him well.

Agree. He looks like a really happy little boy. I started training not much older than him, and its a great thing for kids

ke02eww

Lexi wrote:

Mr_Ice wrote:

Lexi, that pic of your son is fantastic. Looks like me ...um..thirty...um..something...years ago...
His training will serve him well.

;% Oh, thank you! :x Of course, I would agree with you..... but then, I am slightly biased

Nice lad lexi u must be very proud!

Bet he's an Aston fan!

Lexi

ke02eww wrote:

Lexi wrote:

Mr_Ice wrote:

Lexi, that pic of your son is fantastic. Looks like me ...um..thirty...um..something...years ago...
His training will serve him well.

;% Oh, thank you! :x Of course, I would agree with you..... but then, I am slightly biased

Nice lad lexi u must be very proud!

Bet he's an Aston fan!

Actually, more of a Honda CBR 500 fan - just like his mum )

ke02eww

Lexi wrote:

ke02eww wrote:

Lexi wrote:

;% Oh, thank you! :x Of course, I would agree with you..... but then, I am slightly biased

Nice lad lexi u must be very proud!

Bet he's an Aston fan!

Actually, more of a Honda CBR 500 fan - just like his mum )

Good answer..... 8-)

Big bird

On the training coause at the fort, they do combatives otherwise know as Kora in the 50's up to the sixties but basically its combatives. Mostly its about escaping or getting to your weapon.

Regards Richard

always shaken

when we did our police self defence courses ,they were a Police version of martial arts ,. with sharp edge weapons course
ie this big bloke in a red man out fit attacks you with a carving knife and you have to pass,obviousley
but all the time we did these courses,we were constantly told by the instructors that this move that move
this hold that hold ect ect was all home office approved ,and if you used HO approved technics you would never fall foul of the law (it does apply to the police as well )but we did a combined op with the prison service boys once (to re take a prison ) and Christ knows what they get taught , you don't want to mess around with the HMP lads but its home office approved 8-)

Number24

A friend of mine who was in a Norwegian special forces unit during his military service said he was thought six technique to kill and one to restrain. That was pretty much what he learnt about martial arts. Of cource his training was only for one year, unusual for special forces. They pull it off by only teaching them long range recon in Norway and not bothering with the rest of the SF "curriculum".