OHMSS thoughts

Gadget Meister

Just been watching OHMSS in HD, still a brilliant movie, and have come up with some observations:

1) The glovebox telescopic sight could never be zeroed due to it being clamped in the weaver mounts upside down.

2) Bond's lighter is definitely NOT a Dunhill Broadboy, but possibly a Dunhill Rollagas.

3) During the stock car sequence there were numerous Corgi banners displayed, was this the first Bond related product placement?

I also have a question for the board. Given that the original wedding ring is long gone, does anybody have, or know of anybody that has one of the 10 shilling copies that were around at the time? I know one was sold at the last Christies Bond sale. I'm looking for some HQ pictures if possible to commission a goldsmith. Oh and if anyone points me in the direction of Argentina then may you suffer same fate as Lazzar but with the sights raised an inch

danjaq_0ff

Good Luck with that one Andy )

MANDY1

Hey observer, would you like to tell more about those 10 shilling copies ?:)

Gadget Meister

Teppo
At the time of release there was a British Jewellery company producing copies of the Tracy Wedding ring in gold and white metal (Unknown what type) I believe from the one photo I've seen (The Christies Catalogue) that it was pretty accurate. It was sold new for the pricely sum of 10 shillings or £0.50. If memory serves the one that sold at Christies went for almost £1000 which makes it "quite a good investment". I don't know how many of these copies were made but there were a fair amount. Someone must still have one of these copies gathering dust somewhere without even knowing it.

I'm only looking for photos, Pete. Are you sure you haven't got any of the original design drawings anywhere, you've got everything else

MANDY1

Cheers for the info Andy -{ Looks like it has been very good investment.

Higgins

If my memory is correct, the huge Christie'sJames Bond auction in 1998 auction featured a ring with the words "We have all the LOVE in the world". The ring has been pulled prior to the auction. It was advertised as the prop, to my knowledge the replica was different to this.
Has someone checked this against, what we see in the movie? Can we see there the wording and if yes, is it "World" or "Love"? It's definitely an interesting "case" and so far, I have no real reply on this.


I have only seen one very bad pic of the cheap merchandise ring in the 007 magazine, which came with the ltd. OHMSS VHS tape.

Gadget Meister

Markus
I can't remember which auction it was, first or second, I was at both. I definitely remember one of the copies going to the hammer though. I will have to dig my catalogues out as I have a result sheet in each of them, see if I can scan the picture as well. I suppose the next question is to track the original goldsmith down.

Higgins

the original goldsmith & designer was called Charles de Temple. He also did a lot for Lois Maxwell. Unfortunately he deceased a long time ago.

When I am done with the Octopussy egg, the OHMSS ring will be next on my list.

ppw3o6r

OHMSS replica wedding ring:

Hi Guys,
The ring was advertised in the British campaign book in the merchandising & promotion section for OHMSS in 1969. Created by Jeremy Gunn of Arts Galore Ltd, Old Bond Street, London. It was due to retail @ 10 shillings or 50p in old money. As a collector I have never seen one one for sale or know of any in private collections. The Arts Galore ring used the phrase "We have all the Time in the World". The Christies ring had the "We have all the Love in the world" phrase. I do not believe this was ever produced although I hope I'm wrong.

I must add there was no illustration in the campaign book, just a description of how the perceived packaging & advertising materials would appear with a suggested retail of 10s 0d or ten bob and no pennies to you governor!

Gadget Meister

Mmmm now the plot definitely thickens, the possibility that the infamous replica was never produced, I'm seriously intrigued now. ?:)

Higgins

here a scan from my 007 magazine:

danjaq_0ff

I'm with PPW on this, always herd the rumor but never seen the ring

Gadget Meister

This from the Christies Sale 17 Sept 1998, unfortunately no image available

Lot Description
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, 1969
A CHARLES DE TEMPLE TWO-COLOUR GOLD WEDDING RING, THE STYLIZED OPEN-WORK BAND DESIGN FORMING THE WORDS ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD, THE INTERIOR WITH MAKERS SIGNATURE C DE T -- THE RING, A REPLICA OF THE ONE USED IN THE FAMOUS WEDDING SEQUENCE IN THE 1969 UNITED ARTISTS/EON FILM ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE

Lot Notes
THIS REPLICA RING COMMISSIONED FROM THE FASHIONABLE SIXTIES JEWELLER CHARLES DE TEMPLE, IS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE GIVEN BY JAMES BOND [GEORGE LAZENBY] TO TERESA DI VICENZO/TRACY [DIANA RIGG] ON THE ONLY OCCASION IN ANY BOND FILM THAT THE BRITISH AGENT MARRIES. THE WORDS ON THE BAND ARE A REFERENCE TO THE TITLE SONG WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD, SUNG BY LOUIS ARMSTRONG, ARGUABLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SONG OF ANY BOND MOVIE. BOND'S OWN LAST WORDS IN THE FILM'S MOVING FINAL SEQUENCE ALSO ARE A REFERENCE TO THE SONG TITLE, WHEN CRADLING TRACY IN HIS ARMS AFTER SHE'S BEEN SHOT HE TOO SAYS 'WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD'

Price Realized £4830

So probably not one of the cheap copies, but an individual commission by Charles De Temple?

ics

Andy have you won in the lottery… if you ever tack down one I would guess the price is astronomic

danjaq_0ff

So do you think that someone who paid almost 5k for that ring will give you pics of it

Gadget Meister wrote:

This from the Christies Sale 17 Sept 1998, unfortunately no image available

Lot Description
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE, 1969
A CHARLES DE TEMPLE TWO-COLOUR GOLD WEDDING RING, THE STYLIZED OPEN-WORK BAND DESIGN FORMING THE WORDS ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD, THE INTERIOR WITH MAKERS SIGNATURE C DE T -- THE RING, A REPLICA OF THE ONE USED IN THE FAMOUS WEDDING SEQUENCE IN THE 1969 UNITED ARTISTS/EON FILM ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE

Lot Notes
THIS REPLICA RING COMMISSIONED FROM THE FASHIONABLE SIXTIES JEWELLER CHARLES DE TEMPLE, IS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE GIVEN BY JAMES BOND [GEORGE LAZENBY] TO TERESA DI VICENZO/TRACY [DIANA RIGG] ON THE ONLY OCCASION IN ANY BOND FILM THAT THE BRITISH AGENT MARRIES. THE WORDS ON THE BAND ARE A REFERENCE TO THE TITLE SONG WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD, SUNG BY LOUIS ARMSTRONG, ARGUABLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SONG OF ANY BOND MOVIE. BOND'S OWN LAST WORDS IN THE FILM'S MOVING FINAL SEQUENCE ALSO ARE A REFERENCE TO THE SONG TITLE, WHEN CRADLING TRACY IN HIS ARMS AFTER SHE'S BEEN SHOT HE TOO SAYS 'WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD'

Price Realized £4830

So probably not one of the cheap copies, but an individual commission by Charles De Temple?

Gadget Meister

I'm sure there were pics in the original paper catalogue, I'll have to get up the loft this evening and find it.

danjaq_0ff

Be careful Andy, we don't want you falling through the ceiling )

brogusblue

i found this link on the net about the ring.. is this the one?
http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=19093

Gadget Meister

Alan normally shows a lot more taste in his collecting than this. Well, Brugusblue you seem to be the first recipient of the resighted Lazar rifle ........ I believe this is a said piece of Argentinian crap that I still wouldn't pay 10/- for in todays money.

Higgins

That looks a bit like the argentinian crap to me.

Here is the Christie's pic:
(I think, that I can see a V from "Love" on the very left side).


I have been in touch with Christie's because I wanted to buy the ring from the highest bidder and their reply was, that the ring was pulled back by the seller.

David Schofield

Gadget Meister wrote:

Just been watching OHMSS in HD, still a brilliant movie, and have come up with some observations:

3) During the stock car sequence there were numerous Corgi banners displayed, was this the first Bond related product placement?

D

Doesn't the promo adds Connery did for Smirnoff prior to DN's release - and then that brand's aappearance as Bond's vodka of choice in the movie, of course - beat that?

ics

Was it to be a present to misses Markus ????

Welll one killed by lezzard Andy who is next

Markus I cant see your photo

brogusblue

Gadget Meister wrote:

Alan normally shows a lot more taste in his collecting than this. Well, Brugusblue you seem to be the first recipient of the resighted Lazar rifle ........ I believe this is a said piece of Argentinian crap that I still wouldn't pay 10/- for in todays money.

MMMMM.. That sounds painful... .. i better leave right now... )

Higgins

Ian, try this link (or buy a Mac computer ):

http://www.bondtoys.de/christiesring.jpg

No, Mrs. Bondtoys likes more platinum than gold and of course, she would not be allowed to wear such a ring
My silversmith told me, that he could replicate the ring 1:1 (and some of you have an idea, how good that guy is ) but we have to find a pics from the remaining letters. Anyone?

Gadget Meister

That one's blank too Markus, if I could see it, it would would save my ceiling from irrepairable damage as I fall through it tonight. )

I thought that once the hammer had fallen that was a sale and couldn't be pulled by the seller, could be wrong though.

David S
Yep, OK you beat me, Smirnoff wins.

Anybody any thoughts on the lighter?

Higgins

well, if you have previously complained about my webpage, I'll not allow you to see my pics anymore

Seriously: Empty your caches and cookies and it should work.
Or use another browser like FF or Safari.

danjaq_0ff

I can see it

Higgins

If anyone still can't see the pic, pm me with your email addresses and I'll email it to you.

Pete, I am amazed, that it works with your Commodore Amiga 600 crap

ics

Marcus – couldn’t see it, but downloaded and after opening the file I could see it… very very nice -{

danjaq_0ff

Mine is not even that good I have a Hamster in my tower running on a wheel to power it, unlike some people that hide them in there pants :v

ics

Bondtoys wrote:

If anyone still can't see the pic, pm me with your email addresses and I'll email it to you.

Pete, I am amazed, that it works with your Commodore Amiga 600 crap

I thought I was more vintage like ZX81 or VIC 20