Do we assume AVTAK was set at the end of Bond's career?

Q and MQ and M IrelandPosts: 171MI6 Agent
as roger moore was 58 do we assume that he was about to enter the period Niven portrayed in casino royale, ie approaching retirement

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  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 412MI6 Agent
    I loved A View To A Kill, personally, even despite Moore's age. There was a lot that I loved about it, so his age factor wasn't such a problem.

    AVTAK to me extremely felt like the end of Moore, even whilst watching it pretty much from San Francisco on. It felt totally like a last film of an era, like the end of Bond almost. Thats another thing I loved, though it is still sad watching Moore on it knowing it was his last appearance, older and also in a more serious performance.
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. AVTAK 8. GF 9. MR 10. TB 11. OP 12. SF 13. DN 14. SP 15. LALD 16. GE 17. CR 18. YOLT 19. TWINE 20. TMWTGG 21. NTTD 22. TND 23. QOS 24. NSNA 25. DAD 26. DAF 27. CR '67

    1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig 6. Brosnan
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I know AVTAK takes a lot of stick from some,but I like it too. Moores a little more serious for the most part and i love the ski chase ( I wish they'd played the Bond theme over the snowboarding scene ).I also think the Firetruck chase could of been better, But as with most of the Bonds I watch, they have more good points than bad ones. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,485MI6 Agent
    This is intriguing in a way. Yes, Moore was getting on to be Niven's age in CR, and the two were pals in real life.

    Idea for a new Bond marathon: watching the film in the order of the ageing actor, starting with George Lazenby, proceeding thru the Connery and Craig years, then Dalton, Moore and Brosnan, Connery again, and ending with Moore in AVTAK and then Niven in CR. :s
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Andy007Andy007 Posts: 100MI6 Agent
    There is nothing to suggest that AVTAK was near the end of Bond's career. Although it's obvious from watching it that Moore's last film. He was too old in this so it had to end here. However the film itself is quite a generic Bond storyline. It could have been done by other Bond's - maybe better too. However i've always liked AVTAK, has many good scenes, good musical score & Moore is quite serious in this as someone mentioned. I prefer his serious performances like FYEO, OP and AVTAK than his lighter ones.
    We know that Bond's 1-16 are known as the 'classic' Bond films & in this sense I always think LTK feels like a good end to it all. Even though Dalton was much younger than Moore & only did 2 films -he brought such depth to the role that it seemed like a natural end. With LTK being a personal mission outside the MI service, he seemed to go through so much in this film & finally gets happiness with Pam. Now for those that say -"oh well Bond always gets the girl in the end & moves on"- somehow this did seem different. I've watched the end of LTK many times & the chemistry with Dalton & Lowell really pulls it off. You just sense that Bond really could pack it in & walk away from this long hard job..One moment from Dalton that suggests it - is when Sanchez has gone up in flames & Bond runs to cover. For a quiet moment Bond looks serious and warn out, as if relieved it's all over & Sanchez dead, knowing he did this for Felix and Della, but also a sense of 'is this all worth it' - it just seems like the final adventure for Bond. As if right that's done. 'i expect his feelings were also sad knowing this won't change anything for Felix & Della too. But the final scene with Bond & Pam could have been a natural ending to the whole series imo. I'm pleased the Bond series did continue - but have to say it was never the same after 1995. Brosnan did a great job with the films, but when you look at TND & DAD it's just so poor. I think a reboot with Craig was much needed. Just a shame that QOS was a poor follow-up to the excellent 'Casino Royale'. I just hope they get it right in Bond 23. This is a huge film for Daniel Craig & the Bond series, especially after what will be a 4-year gap.
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