Changing bond movies

James Suzuki

I thought it would be nice if we chat about how we could make some of the bond movies which didn't go well, better. Let's start with A view to a kill. Change the title back to the original Fleming title, From a View to a Kill. Good old Roger Moore is looking way too old for this one, either make it ten years earlier or bring in Dalton two years early. So With Dalton in the movie, Bond should look like he is actually fit for missions. Change the pre-titles into a more welcoming the new Bond scene. Change it to the jungle or something,(but keep in the part with him finding the microchip),I'm sick of Bond being in snow for the pre-titles. Keep the title song, it should suit better with Dalton playing Bond. The car chase in Paris needs to be lengthened and a good stunt in it would be good.Everything up to the stables is pretty good, but Tibbet looks too old to be a secret Agent, swap him for a much younger actor. Give Mayday more screen time, but please, oh please, do not have Bond get into bed with her! Stacey Sutton needs to be changed, if she was a bit more athletic,she doesn't have to be another Babara Bach, but she could have a stronger will to stop down Zorin. When bond investigates an oil rig, we could have some better action, him attacking a guard or something. The scene with Pola Ivanova can be stuck in there, but the actor who plays her needs to be younger. The scene in San Fransisco's city hall can stay but you could add a fight there. the chase in the fire engine can still be there, but delete all the silly gags of course and add in realistic gripping stunts. Skipping to the mine scene, skip the part where Zorin slaughters hundreds of workers. Make a bloody,scrap between Bond and Mayday in the Mine Shaft. Bond kills Mayday, killing her with a plank of wood or something (so it won't copy Goldfinger), and instead of her pushing the bomb out, a load of workers do. The part where Stacey gets grabbed should change to them kidnapping her on the ground. After Bond grabbing on to the moor ropes, and after Zorin trying to kill him on the gate bridge, also after bond tying the ropes around the bridge,Stacey should bash the two other guys Mortner and Scarpine out better. Zorin should gran Stacey and have a quick fight with her, ending up chucking her out on to the bridge. The Zorin Vs bond fight should be longer, more gripping and should consist not just in the same spot. The rest of the movie should go as normal. But lets just say snooper never existed. Tell me what you think of this, and if i've missed anything out. next time i'll do Die another day.

DangerMouse

Your take would certainly make the film much better. Love the idea of Dalton appearing in Moore's place and the jungle setting for the pre-credits sequence. Can't wait to see your take on Die Another Day.

James Suzuki

Thanks for your opinion, I'm glad you like it. After doing die another day i might do tmwtgg, could you suggest a film i could suggests changes for?

DangerMouse

The Man With The Golden Gun seems a good choice.

Wint and Kidd far-out

Your suggested changes for AVTAK are very interesting.

I think with the idea of Dalton playing Bond in this movie I would also suggest the addition of having Zorin plead with Bond not to let him fall in the climax of the fight. That would highlight Dalton's cold portrayal of Bond very similarly to the pleadings of Necros in TLD

James Suzuki

Brilliant idea Mr wint. That would really show Dalton's bond.

Wint and Kidd far-out

xboy614 wrote:

I thought it would be nice if we chat about how we could make some of the bond movies which didn't go well, better. Let's start with A view to a kill. Change the title back to the original Fleming title, From a View to a Kill. Good old Roger Moore is looking way too old for this one, either make it ten years earlier or bring in Dalton two years early. So With Dalton in the movie, Bond should look like he is actually fit for missions. Change the pre-titles into a more welcoming the new Bond scene. Change it to the jungle or something,(but keep in the part with him finding the microchip),I'm sick of Bond being in snow for the pre-titles. Keep the title song, it should suit better with Dalton playing Bond. The car chase in Paris needs to be lengthened and a good stunt in it would be good.Everything up to the stables is pretty good, but Tibbet looks too old to be a secret Agent, swap him for a much younger actor. Give Mayday more screen time, but please, oh please, do not have Bond get into bed with her! Stacey Sutton needs to be changed, if she was a bit more athletic,she doesn't have to be another Babara Bach, but she could have a stronger will to stop down Zorin. When bond investigates an oil rig, we could have some better action, him attacking a guard or something. The scene with Pola Ivanova can be stuck in there, but the actor who plays her needs to be younger. The scene in San Fransisco's city hall can stay but you could add a fight there. the chase in the fire engine can still be there, but delete all the silly gags of course and add in realistic gripping stunts. Skipping to the mine scene, skip the part where Zorin slaughters hundreds of workers. Make a bloody,scrap between Bond and Mayday in the Mine Shaft. Bond kills Mayday, killing her with a plank of wood or something (so it won't copy Goldfinger), and instead of her pushing the bomb out, a load of workers do. The part where Stacey gets grabbed should change to them kidnapping her on the ground. After Bond grabbing on to the moor ropes, and after Zorin trying to kill him on the gate bridge, also after bond tying the ropes around the bridge,Stacey should bash the two other guys Mortner and Scarpine out better. Zorin should gran Stacey and have a quick fight with her, ending up chucking her out on to the bridge. The Zorin Vs bond fight should be longer, more gripping and should consist not just in the same spot. The rest of the movie should go as normal. But lets just say snooper never existed. Tell me what you think of this, and if i've missed anything out. next time i'll do Die another day.

I've been thinking further about your ideas here and there's just one thing I don't understand.

What possible motive could the workers have for pushing the bomb out? They were all loyal accomplices to Zorin in the first place. What would make them suddenly change sides and help Bond thwart their boss?

Unless I suppose it was because while Zorin didn't mass murder them he ran off with Scarpine and left them all to die with no escape.

James Suzuki

Wint and Kidd far-out wrote:

xboy614 wrote:

I thought it would be nice if we chat about how we could make some of the bond movies which didn't go well, better. Let's start with A view to a kill. Change the title back to the original Fleming title, From a View to a Kill. Good old Roger Moore is looking way too old for this one, either make it ten years earlier or bring in Dalton two years early. So With Dalton in the movie, Bond should look like he is actually fit for missions. Change the pre-titles into a more welcoming the new Bond scene. Change it to the jungle or something,(but keep in the part with him finding the microchip),I'm sick of Bond being in snow for the pre-titles. Keep the title song, it should suit better with Dalton playing Bond. The car chase in Paris needs to be lengthened and a good stunt in it would be good.Everything up to the stables is pretty good, but Tibbet looks too old to be a secret Agent, swap him for a much younger actor. Give Mayday more screen time, but please, oh please, do not have Bond get into bed with her! Stacey Sutton needs to be changed, if she was a bit more athletic,she doesn't have to be another Babara Bach, but she could have a stronger will to stop down Zorin. When bond investigates an oil rig, we could have some better action, him attacking a guard or something. The scene with Pola Ivanova can be stuck in there, but the actor who plays her needs to be younger. The scene in San Fransisco's city hall can stay but you could add a fight there. the chase in the fire engine can still be there, but delete all the silly gags of course and add in realistic gripping stunts. Skipping to the mine scene, skip the part where Zorin slaughters hundreds of workers. Make a bloody,scrap between Bond and Mayday in the Mine Shaft. Bond kills Mayday, killing her with a plank of wood or something (so it won't copy Goldfinger), and instead of her pushing the bomb out, a load of workers do. The part where Stacey gets grabbed should change to them kidnapping her on the ground. After Bond grabbing on to the moor ropes, and after Zorin trying to kill him on the gate bridge, also after bond tying the ropes around the bridge,Stacey should bash the two other guys Mortner and Scarpine out better. Zorin should gran Stacey and have a quick fight with her, ending up chucking her out on to the bridge. The Zorin Vs bond fight should be longer, more gripping and should consist not just in the same spot. The rest of the movie should go as normal. But lets just say snooper never existed. Tell me what you think of this, and if i've missed anything out. next time i'll do Die another day.

I've been thinking further about your ideas here and there's just one thing I don't understand.

What possible motive could the workers have for pushing the bomb out? They were all loyal accomplices to Zorin in the first place. What would make them suddenly change sides and help Bond thwart their boss?

Unless I suppose it was because while Zorin didn't mass murder them he ran off with Scarpine and left them all to die with no escape.

Yes, i thought it would be becasue Zorin had betrayed them and left them to die in the mine

Wint and Kidd far-out

Yeah that does make sense. Rather like the way May Day was used in the movie only on a far bigger scale.

Thank you for confirming that.

James Suzuki

Man, i've been thinking about the changes i could do to Die Another day, and it is hard. Some of the real hard parts are key plot pieces and i don't want to just tell a completely new bond film. I might go with TMWTGG next if it is too hard, if you had any suggestions about DAd that would be so helpful.

Number24

Tomorrow never dies:

Change the title back to Tomorrow Never Lies
Use "Surrender" over the titles.
Let Laetitia Casta play Paris Carver

Loose the remote driven BMW (or at least PB's gleefull smile in the back seat minutes after Paris died)

Loose the small rocket launcher inside the stealth ship.

James Suzuki

Good ideas, if you wanted too, you could post your own changes in a whole thing like mine here of tomorrow never dies.
DIE ANOTHER DAY
okay, die another day is so hard at changing everything so I'm going to point out things in the story that need to be changed, and give some suggestions for it. Pre-titles, fine, fight in it, fine. Just get some one else in instead of Zao, i don't like his presence in the movie. Get rid of maddona, the song is not BOND. And i don't like the title frankly, die another day sounds corny and stupid. Living to die, Risico, proptery of a lady (the diamond could have been from a girl instead of Zao). The tortue scenes, and the part with M is ok. The fencing scene is fine, and is one of the highlights of the movie. ge trid of the maddona scene though. Ok, Q. get rid of the bloodly invisible car, get rid of the sonic ring and get rid of the stupid homages. Stop the computer-generated effects which makes this bond film a disaster. Add instead, some stunts. If you really want some homages, maybe Q could say he was low on ideas and were devolping some old ideas to make them better, and Bond would be given a better version of some old gadgets. like seen given the mini-breather from thunderball, or even better the attache case, or the wrist dart gun. Ok, the ice palace is really, really corny, make it to a glass house, all made from glass. I had an idea for the main story plot. Instead of using the diamonds to make a diamond laser (deja vu), what about using the scheme like goldfinger. (look the spy who loved me copied you only live twice with the villians plot). Graves plan was to blow up other diamond mines, helping him. Of course with this, this would change the ending of the story. Maybe a full on fight with graves ending up with graves getting killed by having a bunch full of diamonds shoved in his mouth, killing him. lets have another bond girl, not Jinx, someone who is like a reporter, trying to dig dirt from Graves. And this have a different car chase.

Wint and Kidd far-out

Just to try to resuscitate this thread I thought I'd mention one little change I would make to TLD.

At the very end of the fight with Necros in the few seconds before Bond cuts the final lace I would have him say clearly and audibly for Necros to hear. "Smiert Spionem."

By the way xboy614 I like your ideas and I hope you'll feel inspired to come up with some more.

James Suzuki

Thanks, Wint and kidd, i might type up another one i.e quantum