Making a Golden Gun, dims details and HELP!

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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    007 wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    like the mp5, i'm considering this for when i win the lottery

    http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/live-firearms-and-shotguns/gsg5-mp5-clone/prod_197.html

    Is it right that you can buy that legally in the UK with no licenses?

    NOPE! as geff says.

    You need a licence based around re-enactments or theatre / film making reasons, for which proof will be required.

    that would be the VCR Bill / RIFS.......

    double no i'm afriad, its a real firearm, which requires you to have a firearms certificate to purchase it.
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    007 wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    like the mp5, i'm considering this for when i win the lottery

    http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/live-firearms-and-shotguns/gsg5-mp5-clone/prod_197.html

    Is it right that you can buy that legally in the UK with no licenses?

    NOPE! as geff says.

    You need a licence based around re-enactments or theatre / film making reasons, for which proof will be required.

    that would be the VCR Bill / RIFS.......

    so, are you a re-enactor or an actor? you aint being a bellend are you :D
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,280MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    like the mp5, i'm considering this for when i win the lottery

    http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/live-firearms-and-shotguns/gsg5-mp5-clone/prod_197.html

    Geff,

    http://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/2010/7/9/umarex-mp5k-pdw-bb-airgun-review.html

    you can buy this Umarex MP5 in the UK anyway, which is fairly cheap and a greta plinking gun for the summer.

    True you can buy it in the UK but unless you are a skirmisher & belong to an organisation for such activities it will be painted green, orange, blue or some other naff colour so SO19 don't take yer head off mistaking it for a firearm and YOU as a nutter!
  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    007 wrote:
    Slightly off topic, but here's my "small" collection


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    Did 007 Q Branch do the H&K?


    that is not a ump 9, look closer :D

    Eagle Eyed Danjaq!
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    like the mp5, i'm considering this for when i win the lottery

    http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/live-firearms-and-shotguns/gsg5-mp5-clone/prod_197.html

    Geff,

    http://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/2010/7/9/umarex-mp5k-pdw-bb-airgun-review.html

    you can buy this Umarex MP5 in the UK anyway, which is fairly cheap and a greta plinking gun for the summer.

    True you can buy it in the UK but unless you are a skirmisher & belong to an organisation for such activities it will be painted green, orange, blue or some other naff colour so SO19 don't take yer head off mistaking it for a firearm and YOU as a nutter!

    but i am a nutter
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    I have gripping hands too :v

    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    007 wrote:

    Did 007 Q Branch do the H&K?


    that is not a ump 9, look closer :D

    Eagle Eyed Danjaq!
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    Not quite the nutter from Broadmore though :D more crazy :s than anything else

    minigeff wrote:
    ppw3o6r wrote:

    Geff,

    http://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/2010/7/9/umarex-mp5k-pdw-bb-airgun-review.html

    you can buy this Umarex MP5 in the UK anyway, which is fairly cheap and a greta plinking gun for the summer.

    True you can buy it in the UK but unless you are a skirmisher & belong to an organisation for such activities it will be painted green, orange, blue or some other naff colour so SO19 don't take yer head off mistaking it for a firearm and YOU as a nutter!

    but i am a nutter
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    i prefer excentric to crazy :p
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    I couldn't spell that ;%
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    lol i guessed the spelling tbh :))
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  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    like the mp5, i'm considering this for when i win the lottery

    http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/live-firearms-and-shotguns/gsg5-mp5-clone/prod_197.html

    Geff,

    http://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/2010/7/9/umarex-mp5k-pdw-bb-airgun-review.html

    you can buy this Umarex MP5 in the UK anyway, which is fairly cheap and a greta plinking gun for the summer.

    True you can buy it in the UK but unless you are a skirmisher & belong to an organisation for such activities it will be painted green, orange, blue or some other naff colour so SO19 don't take yer head off mistaking it for a firearm and YOU as a nutter!

    Im pleased to say you are wrong.

    The link i sent you was for an umarex 4.5 calibre CO2. this means it is not airsoft, and does not fall under RIFs or the VCR bill.

    Its treated as an airgun, therefore, so long as you are over 18, in you pop to buy one, no UKAS skirmish register....

    Id go out and buy one now!!
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    007 wrote:
    Slightly off topic, but here's my "small" collection


    2011_09_03_10_48_51_56.jpg

    Are you an airsofter?
    Lovely collection by the way.

    Ive dabbled in airsoft, but prefer paintball. i do neither regularly. Bought the 3 airsofts (Mp5 and the 2 glock 26C's) before the VCR bill and all that crap.

    everything else is either pellet (177 or 22), steel BB (4.5mm) .43 calibre or .68 calibre.
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    007 wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    like the mp5, i'm considering this for when i win the lottery

    http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/live-firearms-and-shotguns/gsg5-mp5-clone/prod_197.html

    Geff,

    http://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/2010/7/9/umarex-mp5k-pdw-bb-airgun-review.html

    you can buy this Umarex MP5 in the UK anyway, which is fairly cheap and a greta plinking gun for the summer.

    You have to have this UKARA thing though right?

    Nope, its 177 / 4.5 bbs, so it falls under airgun regs, not Airsoft. the UKARA only covers the 6mm airsoft stuff. which is mental.
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    it fires 4.5 steel BB's, surely this mean its classed as a RIF?

    even if not, you'd get more accuracy with mr magoo and a rubber band :))
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    that looks quite fun :D
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    that looks quite fun :D

    oh christ, now look what we've started!
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  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    it fires 4.5 steel BB's, surely this mean its classed as a RIF?

    even if not, you'd get more accuracy with mr magoo and a rubber band :))

    RIF yes, but its not classed as a skirmising gun, as you cant go round hitting teenagers with steel balls in woodland, not mater how annoying they are.

    It falls under airguns, in the same way CO2 pistons do. They may be RIFs in appearance, but you dont need UKARA to buy and airGUN, only airSOFT.

    Crap ennit?!?
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • 007007 ClassifiedPosts: 372MI6 Agent
    007 wrote:

    Geff,

    http://www.replicaairguns.com/posts/2010/7/9/umarex-mp5k-pdw-bb-airgun-review.html

    you can buy this Umarex MP5 in the UK anyway, which is fairly cheap and a greta plinking gun for the summer.

    You have to have this UKARA thing though right?

    Nope, its 177 / 4.5 bbs, so it falls under airgun regs, not Airsoft. the UKARA only covers the 6mm airsoft stuff. which is mental.

    Now I am confused! So I can buy guns like this legally without any kind of license?
    Can you get a PPK or PPK/S like this?
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  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    that looks quite fun :D

    YUS!!
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • 007007 ClassifiedPosts: 372MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    it fires 4.5 steel BB's, surely this mean its classed as a RIF?

    even if not, you'd get more accuracy with mr magoo and a rubber band :))

    RIF yes, but its not classed as a skirmising gun, as you cant go round hitting teenagers with steel balls in woodland, not mater how annoying they are.

    It falls under airguns, in the same way CO2 pistons do. They may be RIFs in appearance, but you dont need UKARA to buy and airGUN, only airSOFT.

    Crap ennit?!?

    So I could get a CO2 PPK or PPK/S?
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    I never said I wanted one :v


    minigeff wrote:
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    that looks quite fun :D

    oh christ, now look what we've started!
  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    007 wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    it fires 4.5 steel BB's, surely this mean its classed as a RIF?

    even if not, you'd get more accuracy with mr magoo and a rubber band :))

    RIF yes, but its not classed as a skirmising gun, as you cant go round hitting teenagers with steel balls in woodland, not mater how annoying they are.

    It falls under airguns, in the same way CO2 pistons do. They may be RIFs in appearance, but you dont need UKARA to buy and airGUN, only airSOFT.

    Crap ennit?!?

    So I could get a CO2 PPK or PPK/S?

    Yup, but only bought across the counter in a shop. The will record the sale and your address, but thats it.
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  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    OK:

    Airsoft (6mm BB) - Requires UKARA registration for skirmishing.
    Airgun / pistol (typically 4.5mm pellet or metal BB) - Requires point of sale at shop and ID to by. Limited by power 6ft/lb
    Airgun / rifle (typically 4.5mm pellet or 5.5mm pellet) - Requires point of sale at shop and ID to by. Limited by power 12ft/lb
    Anything else, proper shotgun or firearm ticket.

    PS, deactivated stuff is generally for film / theatre or on ticket, as i understand it.
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  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    OK,

    so my waterman pen should finally be here soon, and I have 2 sets of plans / blueprints enroute.

    Ignoring the obvious 'draw and design' basics, can anyone recommend what the best plan of action is?

    Would it be worth mocking anything up in wood or plastics first, or just hit the metalwork???
    Do you expect me to talk??

    No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!!
  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    Lighters, pens and work in progress plans!


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    Ok, so any thoughts on the best material? It has been suggested I use a mixture of brass and stainless. Any prop makers got thoughts on this subject?
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    brass -{
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    pete's stalker returns!

    what kinda kit are you using to make this?
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  • dusktilldawn82dusktilldawn82 West Midlands, UKPosts: 197MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    brass -{

    Ta.

    I think that is the likely culprit for the majority, easier to shape and machine.

    To get the cufflink thread;

    A) down in size (the FE and SD ones dont exactly make the wearable)
    B) the cufflink will hopefully have the female thread, with the male extending out of the ciggie case cap

    I am planning to do this in stainless for extra strength. i have seen some dodgy picture of the FE cufflink thread badly damaged. A 2mm to 2.5mm stainless bolt into a stainless cufflink shaft should resolve this, and actually make the cufflinks wearable!
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    So what machines are you using to make this then?
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