Does anyone rate 'Never say never again' above other Bond films?

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  • Mrs.BryceMrs.Bryce Posts: 139MI6 Agent
    No way would I pick NSNA over ANY of the Bond films.
    Okay, maybe it's a tie with DAD. But none of the others, including AVTAK. That's how much I dislike it. Beach Boys here I come :))

    To be quite honest I couldn't really care if Connery went back to Bond, just as I don't think I'd care if any of them did, to be honest.
    It's just a cheap version of it.
    Connery must've wanted the old days back, or to just reinburst his funds..
    Actually no, to shove it in Cubby's face.
    If you ask me, it's the worst of the lot.
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Mrs.Bryce wrote:
    Connery must've wanted the old days back, or to just reinburst his funds..
    Actually no, to shove it in Cubby's face.

    Sean Connery most likely had accepted by then that he was never going to escape his Bond image regardless of what else he did. No doubt money was a big factor. Regardless, his return as Bond in NSNA (intended or not) was a stepping stone that led to more high profile roles in big films such as The Untouchables, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and The Hunt for Red October.
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  • Mrs.BryceMrs.Bryce Posts: 139MI6 Agent
    True, I was just foolin' around ahah! But that is a really good point Moore Than!
    :D

    I would've been disappointed if he wasn't in IJATLC.
    I'm too lazy to type things. Especially long titles. :))
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Mrs.Bryce wrote:
    I'm too lazy to type things. Especially long titles. :))

    Come on now, Mrs. B. Us Roger Moore fans should stick together and help keep the standards up around here. Let your fingers do the walking, let your fingers do the talking. :D
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  • Mrs.BryceMrs.Bryce Posts: 139MI6 Agent
    I guess so, eh! Alright, I'll keep up the Moore than amazing standard of us Moore fans! :))
  • dr. evan-gelistdr. evan-gelist SheffieldPosts: 399MI6 Agent
    yes above most of sir rogers bond films.
    "You're in the wrong business... leave it to the professionals!"
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  • lotuslotus englandPosts: 301MI6 Agent
    Its better than octo pussy and avtak
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    The comments explain that it was Timothy Dalton's body and Connery's head.
    Here's an interesting youtube redone intro. How did they get the older Connery in the gunbarrel?

    Eon-ised NSNA opening
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • RJJBRJJB United StatesPosts: 346MI6 Agent
    edited February 2012
    NSNA is better than any of the Roger Moore cartoons. NSNA is not great by any stretch, but I have never liked Moore. His presence in the movies makes them all unwatchable for me.
  • cdsdsscdsdss JakartaPosts: 144MI6 Agent
    I lump it in with the Moore films, too. Connery is better in the role than Moore ever was, but the "humor" (*cough*) in NSNA is about as broad as in any of the Moore films, and the film has aged about as badly.

    Effing Rowan Atkinson is in it, fer crissakes...
  • NSNAFanNSNAFan Posts: 20MI6 Agent
    It's been my favorite Bond film since I first saw it around 1998. The first scene I saw was the confrontation between Bond and Fatima. When he blew her up with that pen, I couldn't believe it. I stayed for the rest of it and enjoyed it all the way through, but the Tears of Allah was a bit boring. I liked the ending. Despite this being an unpopular opinion, the theme is my favorite all all Bond themes.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I certainly didn't hate the film as much as many other Bond fans, and I also enjoyed the interaction between Bond and Fatima. But THAT theme song was your favorite??? Good Lord!!!!!
    NSNAFan wrote:
    It's been my favorite Bond film since I first saw it around 1998. The first scene I saw was the confrontation between Bond and Fatima. When he blew her up with that pen, I couldn't believe it. I stayed for the rest of it and enjoyed it all the way through, but the Tears of Allah was a bit boring. I liked the ending. Despite this being an unpopular opinion, the theme is my favorite all all Bond themes.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • oscar rubiooscar rubio Madrid (Spain)Posts: 286MI6 Agent
    Yes Of course AVTAK,tmwtgg,por example
  • icsics Posts: 1,413MI6 Agent
    Well the fan made EON version is nice – I find Largo more manic and dangerous in this compared to many other villains… in addition I like Connery back….I don’t like Mr. Bean… Bassinger…

    What a year… OP and NSNA the same year….
  • oscar rubiooscar rubio Madrid (Spain)Posts: 286MI6 Agent
    Basinger is the best Bond girls, and Barbara Carrera, are very well both
  • Richard--WRichard--W USAPosts: 200MI6 Agent
    NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is an intellectual giant compared to CASINO ROYALE (2006). I rate NSNA higher than CASINO ROYALE, QUANTUM OF SOLACE, A VIEW TO A KILL, DIE ANOTHER DAY, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, OCTOPUSSY, MOONRAKER, 75% of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, and LIVE AND LET DIE.

    Plus, I would rather watch Connery at any age over Daniel Craig anytime.


    Richard
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Wow! You really are letting your hatred of Daniel Craig get the best of you my friend! There is no bigger fan of Sean Connery's Bond than me, but NSNA better than Casino Royale?????? Come on!!!!
    Richard--W wrote:
    NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is an intellectual giant compared to CASINO ROYALE (2006). I rate NSNA higher than CASINO ROYALE, QUANTUM OF SOLACE, A VIEW TO A KILL, DIE ANOTHER DAY, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, OCTOPUSSY, MOONRAKER, 75% of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, and LIVE AND LET DIE.

    Plus, I would rather watch Connery at any age over Daniel Craig anytime.


    Richard
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • DaltonFan1DaltonFan1 The West of IrelandPosts: 503MI6 Agent
    NSNA is certainly better than DAD, but that doesn't really count either.
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  • JohnMastersonJohnMasterson MinnesotaPosts: 326MI6 Agent
    I rate Never Say Never Again above You Only Live Twice. Because I HATE You Only Live Twice.
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  • Jimmy BondJimmy Bond Posts: 324MI6 Agent
    Personally, I rank it higher than a lot of Bonds, as well. And slightly above TB, because the cast is overall better, the direction is more focused and the overall mood of the story reminds me more of the first two Bond films than TB does - that doesn't mean TB isn't an excellent Bond film, of course.

    Anyway, I must admit a certain sense of hilarity came right through me when I saw this thread, as if the mere idea of anyone liking this at all is an impossibility... But one should note that EON did everything in its power to prevent this film from being even the slightest bit original, so I think its more prone to be forgiveable for its lack of very much that - particularly where the ending is involved.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I rank it above half of Roger Moore's entries...but then I enjoy it more than most here on AJB...perhaps it's because I'm only about 3 years away from the age that Sir Sean was when he did it... ;%
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  • degamedegame Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    edited April 2012
    I can enjoy NSNA as a cheeky parody of the Bond films, and think it has its moments of humour and wit, with Connery in fine form. However, the production values are a bit cheapskate in places alright, compared to the real thing.

    I'd still prefer it to most of Roger Moore's 1980's Bond films though .... :p

    i fully agree - i like the self-ironic approach, which is also contained in the title. i prefer it to many moore movies and i also like kim basinger in the movie :)


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  • NashNash Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    NSNA is miles better than QoS.
  • jimmybondijimmybondi ShrublandsPosts: 328MI6 Agent
    Nash wrote:
    NSNA is miles better than QoS.
    I'll second that!
    gez.
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  • Agent007jamestAgent007jamest usaPosts: 163MI6 Agent
    I think it is better than any of Moore's efforts. I like it and think it is a great ending to the Connery era. The soundtrack and lack of those EON touches does diminish it though. I love the scene when 007 puts the cigar case in the bouncers hand than eloquently disposes of his gun. Classic Connery.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Agree!
    I think it is better than any of Moore's efforts. I like it and think it is a great ending to the Connery era. The soundtrack and lack of those EON touches does diminish it though. I love the scene when 007 puts the cigar case in the bouncers hand than eloquently disposes of his gun. Classic Connery.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,486MI6 Agent
    The scene with the bouncer is great - but why does he dispose of his gun? What is that all about?
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  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    Poor asit is ( and it is poor...) still streets ahead of any of RM's offerings with the exception of LALD.
  • Agent007jamestAgent007jamest usaPosts: 163MI6 Agent
    The scene with the bouncer is great - but why does he dispose of his gun? What is that all about?

    I think it was done as one of those funny quirky Connery moments. Like eating the grape in Thunderball after he dispatched of the baddie in the hotel room. Displaying his Bond never gets rattled... except in Dr. No damn tarantulas! :)
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,486MI6 Agent
    But whose gun is he leaving? Why would he leave his own gun there for anyone to pick up? Or was it the bouncer's gun? I don't recall the bouncer being armed. ?:)
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

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