I don't think his fitness actually made him stand out in most circumstances, I think he himself felt it did, along with his dress and his frequent out of season tans. I thought Fleming was trying to convey the idea that in certain circumstances (such as Blades), he thought he felt that he appeared out of place because the average people around him (like M) were middle aged, paunchy, balding, bespectacled office workers types.
You mentioned that a -"typical Brittish dockhand from the '60s would also fit the description of "Tough looking customer. Doesn't look the sort of chap one usually sees in Blades.". True. Even if you put them in an expensive three piece suit in Blades, they would probably be noticeable like Bond, having worked outside in all weather, they would have that well worn face. That's what point I'm trying to make - Bond felt the same way. With his fitness and probably well worn face (don't forget that three inch scar!), he'd probably be able to disguise himself as a dockworker, but in his regular clothes in a pub filled with them he would feel he "stuck out" as he does at Blades. He feels he looks just different enough and feels just different enough because of his profession that the "un-English" label seems to apply. The whole point is that I think he just felt that way, as opposed to it being true in most circumstances.
- As far as his physical training in relation to how the commandoes trained - you're right - to a degree. They did have a harsher training as recruits to be readied for battle, but their regular maintenance training was not required at quiet the same intense level afterwards. I knew a Navy Seal when I was posted overseas and I asked him about his training (this was in the 1970's before it was so well know as it is now). He told me about the hell they went through in their initial training to get to be a SEAL, but after that they only had to work out and train enough to maintain their skills and fitness, which was close to - but not as horribly demanding as the initial training was. It was only enough to maintain their physical strength and endurance (they were tested on a regular basis). Bond would not have to be quite in the same league as these soldiers, but he would still have to maintain a level of fitness above what the ordinary civilian would at that time - or even the average spy - they only had to gather intelligence and recruit other spies. A 00 was a special category in Fleming's version of the Service. Being a combination spy/commando/assassin, they would have to be in a physical condition quite a cut above the average field agent. Not as much as say, an SAS commando, but more than an MI6 operative - somewhere in between. Even though Fleming rarely mentioned Bond's training since it wasn't necessary to the plots, I'm sure it would have been on a regular basis - not as much or as intense as regular SAS soldiers performed, but at least as much as probably professional boxers and martial artists require.
As before; a good read this reply, I think we're getting somewhere here. Maybe it's because I feel that I'm starting to agree with you, or you are starting to agree with me.... Who knows.
I'd like to point out only one more thing, and that is about this phys.ed. stuff: What I meant about it, is that when reading about the commandos and other special forces trained during WW2, it was harsh and brutal in times, and we're not talking about introductory courses either; "3 miles up, 3 miles down!" several times a day, remember? It was not accidental, that after the war, many of these special forces types found new career in endurance sports. For a long time (at least here in Finland) former LRRP rangers dominated distance running and skiing. But, when you read about Bonds physical training, it is more like something that Sherlock Holmes would have done, I mean " Chest and arm excercises until dizzy" that's like straight from the Victorian era.
Well anyways, I feel that this discussion can be laid to rest, there is no argument from me anyways and I am happy to accept your point of view. Thank you. {[]
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I never thought of the literary Bond as being a physical fitness addict. He drank and smoked far too much. Which book was it where he decided to cut his cigarettes in half because he was feeling out of shape?
I never thought of the literary Bond as being a physical fitness addict. He drank and smoked far too much. Which book was it where he decided to cut his cigarettes in half because he was feeling out of shape?
I do vaguely recall that in "Live and Let Die" he cut back on his cigarette intake and started a daily fitness regimen to prepare himself for a long swim ahead of him.
I don't think his fitness actually made him stand out in most circumstances, I think he himself felt it did, along with his dress and his frequent out of season tans. I thought Fleming was trying to convey the idea that in certain circumstances (such as Blades), he thought he felt that he appeared out of place because the average people around him (like M) were middle aged, paunchy, balding, bespectacled office workers types.
You mentioned that a -"typical Brittish dockhand from the '60s would also fit the description of "Tough looking customer. Doesn't look the sort of chap one usually sees in Blades.". True. Even if you put them in an expensive three piece suit in Blades, they would probably be noticeable like Bond, having worked outside in all weather, they would have that well worn face. That's what point I'm trying to make - Bond felt the same way. With his fitness and probably well worn face (don't forget that three inch scar!), he'd probably be able to disguise himself as a dockworker, but in his regular clothes in a pub filled with them he would feel he "stuck out" as he does at Blades. He feels he looks just different enough and feels just different enough because of his profession that the "un-English" label seems to apply. The whole point is that I think he just felt that way, as opposed to it being true in most circumstances.
- As far as his physical training in relation to how the commandoes trained - you're right - to a degree. They did have a harsher training as recruits to be readied for battle, but their regular maintenance training was not required at quiet the same intense level afterwards. I knew a Navy Seal when I was posted overseas and I asked him about his training (this was in the 1970's before it was so well know as it is now). He told me about the hell they went through in their initial training to get to be a SEAL, but after that they only had to work out and train enough to maintain their skills and fitness, which was close to - but not as horribly demanding as the initial training was. It was only enough to maintain their physical strength and endurance (they were tested on a regular basis). Bond would not have to be quite in the same league as these soldiers, but he would still have to maintain a level of fitness above what the ordinary civilian would at that time - or even the average spy - they only had to gather intelligence and recruit other spies. A 00 was a special category in Fleming's version of the Service. Being a combination spy/commando/assassin, they would have to be in a physical condition quite a cut above the average field agent. Not as much as say, an SAS commando, but more than an MI6 operative - somewhere in between. Even though Fleming rarely mentioned Bond's training since it wasn't necessary to the plots, I'm sure it would have been on a regular basis - not as much or as intense as regular SAS soldiers performed, but at least as much as probably professional boxers and martial artists require.
As before; a good read this reply, I think we're getting somewhere here. Maybe it's because I feel that I'm starting to agree with you, or you are starting to agree with me.... Who knows.
I'd like to point out only one more thing, and that is about this phys.ed. stuff: What I meant about it, is that when reading about the commandos and other special forces trained during WW2, it was harsh and brutal in times, and we're not talking about introductory courses either; "3 miles up, 3 miles down!" several times a day, remember? It was not accidental, that after the war, many of these special forces types found new career in endurance sports. For a long time (at least here in Finland) former LRRP rangers dominated distance running and skiing. But, when you read about Bonds physical training, it is more like something that Sherlock Holmes would have done, I mean " Chest and arm excercises until dizzy" that's like straight from the Victorian era.
Well anyways, I feel that this discussion can be laid to rest, there is no argument from me anyways and I am happy to accept your point of view. Thank you. {[]
Yes, I think we can lay this to rest as well. Just needed to say that as far as the last bit about the Holmes type exercises, I think those were only small calisthenics that Bond did in his off times like at home to get his body limbered up (like he did before his ski bout in OHMSS). Even though it's not mentioned in the novels, it seems logical that he probably did more rigorous exercises on a regular basis at an HQ physical combat training room (boxing, judo, cardio, etc.) to stay fit on a monthly basis.
Just my opinion, but that suit looks cheap and shiny, and cut way too tight for DC's frame. It might be 'the fashion' right now, but it makes poor DC look like a bobblehead;
That cheeky AT watch is sneaking out again. Probably not a bad thing as its the only thing that fits the poor bloke.
Hey seniorrr, Mr Bond he look peeeeeeed off and constipated.
Someone redo that photo to demonstrate correct firearm handling protocol. Ta muchly. Donk -{
At risk of sounding like someone who doesn't believe anything they see/read on the internet (bah-humbug), I have my doubts that that's even a real photo of DC and not something Photoshopped. The outline on the inside legs is clearly (and badly) Photoshopped and I'm just not convinced that the rest of it is real and not just DC's head on someone else's body...unless I see a credit to EON or someone similar I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
At risk of sounding like someone who doesn't believe anything they see/read on the internet (bah-humbug), I have my doubts that that's even a real photo of DC and not something Photoshopped. The outline on the inside legs is clearly (and badly) Photoshopped and I'm just not convinced that the rest of it is real and not just DC's head on someone else's body...unless I see a credit to EON or someone similar I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
That's a good point, I noticed the legs too. The background image is also iffy looking. It's a really dull/unattractive gray, has a really cheesy looking gradient, and there is some heavy pixelation going on with that weird smoke (or whatever it's supposed to be) at the bottom. There also seems to be some aliasing on his left leg, and some heavy blurring on the edge of his right leg. Could be wrong, but it does kind of look fan made.
At risk of sounding like someone who doesn't believe anything they see/read on the internet (bah-humbug), I have my doubts that that's even a real photo of DC and not something Photoshopped. The outline on the inside legs is clearly (and badly) Photoshopped and I'm just not convinced that the rest of it is real and not just DC's head on someone else's body...unless I see a credit to EON or someone similar I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
I agree with your assessment, and woudl add... and someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe until this point we have seen DC wearing a midnight blue tuxedo in Skyfall, so why would a "promo" photo show him wearing a shined-up black one? Doesn't seem logical.
At risk of sounding like someone who doesn't believe anything they see/read on the internet (bah-humbug), I have my doubts that that's even a real photo of DC and not something Photoshopped. The outline on the inside legs is clearly (and badly) Photoshopped and I'm just not convinced that the rest of it is real and not just DC's head on someone else's body...unless I see a credit to EON or someone similar I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
That's a good point, I noticed the legs too. The background image is also iffy looking. It's a really dull/unattractive gray, has a really cheesy looking gradient, and there is some heavy pixelation going on with that weird smoke (or whatever it's supposed to be) at the bottom. There also seems to be some aliasing on his left leg, and some heavy blurring on the edge of his right leg. Could be wrong, but it does kind of look fan made.
i thought it was only lexi who spent time staring at DC's crotch
BOOM, 3 birds with one stone, damn i'm getting my mojo back!
At risk of sounding like someone who doesn't believe anything they see/read on the internet (bah-humbug), I have my doubts that that's even a real photo of DC and not something Photoshopped. The outline on the inside legs is clearly (and badly) Photoshopped and I'm just not convinced that the rest of it is real and not just DC's head on someone else's body...unless I see a credit to EON or someone similar I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
That's a good point, I noticed the legs too. The background image is also iffy looking. It's a really dull/unattractive gray, has a really cheesy looking gradient, and there is some heavy pixelation going on with that weird smoke (or whatever it's supposed to be) at the bottom. There also seems to be some aliasing on his left leg, and some heavy blurring on the edge of his right leg. Could be wrong, but it does kind of look fan made.
i thought it was only lexi who spent time staring at DC's crotch
BOOM, 3 birds with one stone, damn i'm getting my mojo back!
) )
I think this pic is him.... it's on all of the official posters, so I can't see how someone else is stood, with that pose, then tried to put a head of DC.... It could have been photoshoped onto a different background....
however, haven't got this, or any other picture of DC in that style, as I just hate the suit. Looks cheap... and shiny is never a good look, even on DC....(unless he's naked ) )
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The sound is so low on this, and I'm hoping Severine's accent isn't also a problem, as I can't make out what she says at first... "I've been waiting to see... " ?? The rest I can make out.
The sound is so low on this, and I'm hoping Severine's accent isn't also a problem, as I can't make out what she says at first... "I've been waiting to see... " ?? The rest I can make out.
I also could not make out what Severine says at first. On visiting another Bond forum a few members were having the same problem until someone with much better hearing (or sound system) worked it out. She says: "I've been waiting to see who would redeem the chip".
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Three photo's plus an article that also features the Anderson & Wheeler 500 NE shotgun that Bond uses in Skyfall.
I have to say, he's looking good here... love that Barbour look!
And my God he looks like Steven McQueen in the second pic.... (there was rumour that he was to play him in an upcoming film about the actor...)
Anyway... back on topic. Great pics, thanks for sharing!
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As before; a good read this reply, I think we're getting somewhere here. Maybe it's because I feel that I'm starting to agree with you, or you are starting to agree with me.... Who knows.
I'd like to point out only one more thing, and that is about this phys.ed. stuff: What I meant about it, is that when reading about the commandos and other special forces trained during WW2, it was harsh and brutal in times, and we're not talking about introductory courses either; "3 miles up, 3 miles down!" several times a day, remember? It was not accidental, that after the war, many of these special forces types found new career in endurance sports. For a long time (at least here in Finland) former LRRP rangers dominated distance running and skiing. But, when you read about Bonds physical training, it is more like something that Sherlock Holmes would have done, I mean " Chest and arm excercises until dizzy" that's like straight from the Victorian era.
Well anyways, I feel that this discussion can be laid to rest, there is no argument from me anyways and I am happy to accept your point of view. Thank you. {[]
-Mr Arlington Beech
I do vaguely recall that in "Live and Let Die" he cut back on his cigarette intake and started a daily fitness regimen to prepare himself for a long swim ahead of him.
Yes, I think we can lay this to rest as well. Just needed to say that as far as the last bit about the Holmes type exercises, I think those were only small calisthenics that Bond did in his off times like at home to get his body limbered up (like he did before his ski bout in OHMSS). Even though it's not mentioned in the novels, it seems logical that he probably did more rigorous exercises on a regular basis at an HQ physical combat training room (boxing, judo, cardio, etc.) to stay fit on a monthly basis.
ET: Craig Doing Own Stunts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HhxDqZ5p4N4
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MAN! That's tight....
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And yet another lack lustre disastrous publicity photo...Bond is Back in Skyfall...and he needs the toilet...Dum-dum-dar-dar-dum-dum-dum
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Hey seniorrr, Mr Bond he look peeeeeeed off and constipated.
Someone redo that photo to demonstrate correct firearm handling protocol. Ta muchly. Donk -{
That's a good point, I noticed the legs too. The background image is also iffy looking. It's a really dull/unattractive gray, has a really cheesy looking gradient, and there is some heavy pixelation going on with that weird smoke (or whatever it's supposed to be) at the bottom. There also seems to be some aliasing on his left leg, and some heavy blurring on the edge of his right leg. Could be wrong, but it does kind of look fan made.
I agree with your assessment, and woudl add... and someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe until this point we have seen DC wearing a midnight blue tuxedo in Skyfall, so why would a "promo" photo show him wearing a shined-up black one? Doesn't seem logical.
i thought it was only lexi who spent time staring at DC's crotch
BOOM, 3 birds with one stone, damn i'm getting my mojo back!
Vive le droit à la libre expression! Je suis Charlie!
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I think this pic is him.... it's on all of the official posters, so I can't see how someone else is stood, with that pose, then tried to put a head of DC....
however, haven't got this, or any other picture of DC in that style, as I just hate the suit. Looks cheap... and shiny is never a good look, even on DC....(unless he's naked
or Chafe Another Day or You Only Scratch Twice of Rawfinger or Rawthunderingballs
Ladies....It's a guy thing. If you aint got em you probably wouldn't understand? no I'm not falling into that one of course you do
James Bond "Skyfall" new clip
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I also could not make out what Severine says at first. On visiting another Bond forum a few members were having the same problem until someone with much better hearing (or sound system) worked it out. She says: "I've been waiting to see who would redeem the chip".
James Bond - Skyfall
http://stillvision.co.uk/blog/index.php/wedding-photography-cambridge-tag/james-bond-skyfall/
I have to say, he's looking good here... love that Barbour look!
And my God he looks like Steven McQueen in the second pic.... (there was rumour that he was to play him in an upcoming film about the actor...)
Anyway... back on topic. Great pics, thanks for sharing!
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