Cufflinks Discussion

SiCo

Please note this is a split topic with regards to some cufflinks that were going to (or were) produced, which members wish to discuss. I ask you to discuss this politely and to chip in if you want to.

nms75

Sir Miles wrote:

nms75 wrote:

Sir Miles wrote:

We could have done that with the cuff-links thread and people would have had a genuine gripe with AJB then...it's not as simple as it looks

True, but in that scenario, based on the facts about the individual member at the time (or rather lack of them), you may have decided not to do it for the infamous cufflink project. If so look at the headache it would have saved you

Probably...but had it worked... :v

And some serious people here decided to give their money of their own free will...some of those people I respect in their knowledge too....

Absolutely and when I spoke to said trusted serious person via PM, who came onboard with the project, I thought it would get turned around and made to work. Sadly the individual who started the projectjust had the wrong attitude and was very immature so even the experience of a trusted member could not save the day. Which goes to prove how bad it was

NMS

Sir Miles

nms75 wrote:

Sir Miles wrote:

nms75 wrote:

All you need to do is be honest in the post advertising the item. Basically make it clear you and forum have no direct connection with the item nor the seller and are not making any profit from it but are bringing it to the attention of the forum for the interest of members only. It is no different to linking to an online auction for a Bond item - you have no connection to the seller as such, not responsible for the sale and not making any money from - but you do it because you think members might be interested.

Handled properly I don't think it is dagerous ground.

We could have done that with the cuff-links thread and people would have had a genuine gripe with AJB then...it's not as simple as it looks

True, but in that scenario, based on the facts about the individual member at the time (or rather lack of them), you may have decided not to do it for the infamous cufflink project. If so look at the headache it would have saved you

Probably...but had it worked... :v

And some serious people here decided to give their money of their own free will...some of those people I respect in their knowledge too....

nms75

Sir Miles wrote:

nms75 wrote:

All you need to do is be honest in the post advertising the item. Basically make it clear you and forum have no direct connection with the item nor the seller and are not making any profit from it but are bringing it to the attention of the forum for the interest of members only. It is no different to linking to an online auction for a Bond item - you have no connection to the seller as such, not responsible for the sale and not making any money from - but you do it because you think members might be interested.

Handled properly I don't think it is dagerous ground.

We could have done that with the cuff-links thread and people would have had a genuine gripe with AJB then...it's not as simple as it looks

True, but in that scenario, based on the facts about the individual member at the time (or rather lack of them), you may have decided not to do it for the infamous cufflink project. If so look at the headache it would have saved you

Sir Miles

It was best left alone with a question mark at the end...again, subtle difference....and if you wish to be a pleb...?... )

Well...you kick off with what you know then...I was in contact with two of the main people involved with the cufflinks until almost the very end...

It's my opinion that if you pay for something then you have more of right than someone that does not....if you believe otherwise...that's up to you...doesn't make either of us right or wrong though...it's like if I pay to watch SKYFALL at the cinema and you don't and sneak in, then don't blame me if I have you thrown out...you have no right to be there...

nms75

When a moderator tells a normal pleb member that something is 'best left alone' I think anyone can be forgiven for taking that as being told to leave it.

I have never rubbished your knowledge regarding the infamous cufflinks in any way. I do not know exactly what you know nor do you know what I know or other members might know. It is the latter part of this what 'other members might know' I am interested in - they may not be able to add anything that I don't already know but they may know something that I don't know because no one can know everying - if you know what I mean?

You stated that other members have a more valid point if they handed over money. However, all points are opinions and all opinions are as valid and equal as one another - even if some are more informed than others. If this level of equality is not present on the forum then it isn't a particulary good thing to be part of - which I hope is not the case.

NMS

Sir Miles

nms75 wrote:

The owner and Administrator of this board offered to open a thread on this issue. When a member asks for that offer to be taken up you can't go tell that member to 'leave it alone'. You have a point, so do I as does someone else and ALL are equally as valid.

NMS

I didn't tell you to "leave it alone"...I said maybe it's best left alone...you are a naughty boy for mis-quoting me :v

I thought you had good information on what happened ? I know I do - but you rubbished my knowledge....

And I didn't say your point wasn't valid...I just stated that mine was AS valid...

nms75

Let me know what it's your birthday, I will see if I can find you some cufflinks

Should cheer you up )

Sir Miles

The opposite IS true...which is why I presented it to you 8-)

I'm happy with equality...sadly the world is not...so I'll come and join you on your planet )

-{

nms75

Are you like this with your wife? I know a good lawyer if you need one...

Sir Miles

nms75 wrote:

Are you like this with your wife? I know a good lawyer if you need one...

So did she...that's why I'm divorced

nms75

Sir Miles wrote:

Mmmm really ?

If they were THAT bad wouldn't you want to shout it to the masses ?

Wouldn't you want to post pictures on AJB and tell everyone just what a rotten deal you got...and to stay away as you may be ripped off too ?

Mmmm really?

The opposite is equally as true/possible.

But you are not 100% comfortable with equality so I'll leave it at that!

NMS

nms75

Sir Miles

If I can quote SiCo:

The cufflinks is not something I am aware of and if you wish to discuss it further I will open a new topic and move the above posts in to it.

Also regardles of whether members were customers or not they have a right as members to know the result of something that had such an impact on the forum!

NMS

Sir Miles

nms75 wrote:

Sir Miles

If I can quote SiCo:

The cufflinks is not something I am aware of and if you wish to discuss it further I will open a new topic and move the above posts in to it.

Also regardles of whether members were customers or not they have a right as members to know the result of something that had such an impact on the forum!

NMS

I still believe my point is valid...it is his site though.

nms75

Sir Miles wrote:

I still believe my point is valid...it is his site though.

As I believe my point is equally as valid. Also I would not have posted my message above had it not been for Simon's offer to begin a thread on the cufflinks.

Perhaps the forum staff need to communicate more?

NMS

Sir Miles

nms75 wrote:

Sir Miles wrote:

I still believe my point is valid...it is his site though.

As I believe my point is equally as valid. Also I would not have posted my message above had it not been for Simon's offer to begin a thread on the cufflinks.

Perhaps the forum staff need to communicate more?

NMS

Not as valid as someone that actually parted with cash

We do...a darn sight more than you realise...doesn't mean we all agree though...

nms75

The owner and Administrator of this board offered to open a thread on this issue. When a member asks for that offer to be taken up you can't go tell that member to 'leave it alone'. You have a point, so do I as does someone else and ALL are equally as valid.

NMS

nms75

Ok then Sir Miles here is one for you! It seems to me that many members can't wait to show off their latest Bond related acquisition and certainly projects done on AJB see numerous pictures posted on the forum. YET despite this no one who has received the infamous cufflinks has posted a photo of them on the forum? Perhaps they are so pleased with them they don't want to share them with the forum - they are that good! OR perhaps they are so bad they are thinking its best left fogotten as a bad mistake? They say a picture says a thousand words - well so does the lack of one!

NMS

Sir Miles

Mmmm really ?

If they were THAT bad wouldn't you want to shout it to the masses ?

Wouldn't you want to post pictures on AJB and tell everyone just what a rotten deal you got...and to stay away as you may be ripped off too ?

SiCo

Please also see this discussion: http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/37764/macs-cufflinks-any-one-got-some/

Higgins

why have my comments not been moved?

nms75

SiCo wrote:

Please note this is a split topic with regards to some cufflinks that were going to (or were) produced, which members wish to discuss. I ask you to discuss this politely and to chip in if you want to.

Personally I would just like to see the end result. Looking at another thread several others do too but I find it curious as to why there is a reluctance to post some images?

NMS

welshboy78

How many were on the list in the end?

Have they def received them?

Seems odd nobody has posted a pic

nms75

welshboy78 wrote:

How many were on the list in the end?

Have they def received them?

Seems odd nobody has posted a pic

I have been informed by a fellow AJB member that these cufflinks were indeed sent out to members who bought them.

NMS