Weird Bond film

James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
I've always thought Diamonds Are forever was kind of Boring and weird
Cloning Blofeld!
Egypt and the gloop stuff? Diamond laser, and you dont actually see Blofeld die, just get his vehicle smashed. Connery looks out of shape, and unlike Moore, looks a bit more like a grandfather, doesn't look so fresh-faced and cool like DN. If i was to make DAF better I would shove in a different actor, Connery was great, but he has pasted his time at the end of YOLT. Place in Lazenby, that would of made it great. Keep in Telly Savalas and make more of a license to kill type film, that would of been great. Chuck out the weird twin thing, and keep the action swift, and keep the humour low till the Moore films. What do you reckon, DAF weird? Any other films that strike you as a little odd,
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

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  • Sir_Hugo_DraxSir_Hugo_Drax Beneath the Flat Stone Posts: 40MI6 Agent
    Yeah DAF does have some whacky stuff. But at least it's enjoyable as a ridiculously charming romp, IMO. Despite the obvious flaws as a serious Bond film (which is was not - although some attempts) and some of the solutions you yourself listed above, I look at DAF with regret because the film we eventually got was originally so much cooler. I of course refer to the end sequence. In short the original involved Bond and a number of casino owners chasing down Blofeld along Lake Mead in what could have been an exciting chase (albeit a bit silly). But here's the kicker, the second concept was with the oil rig once again but, instead of becoming a battering-ram, Blofeld gets away in the Bathosub. Bond chases him across the water hanging from a weather balloon. The chase continues on foot across the salt mines after Blofeld crashes his Bathosub and leads to a confrontational struggle between Bond and Blofeld on the salt hills. Bond overcomes Blofeld and Ernst falls into a salt granulator where he dies gruesomely. That could have saved the movie from self-parody if done right, in my eyes.

    Anyway, I think generally TMWTGG gets the wrap as the weirdest Bond outing, a third nipple, a pint-sized henchman, etc. but I personally feel that AVTAK is truly the weirdest Bond ever.

    AVTAK is my pick for many reasons:

    1) Mayday, period. As a character overall, her love scene with Bond AND her animal-like growls when pinned down by Zoran - not to mention their kiss. :#
    2) Christopher Walker (although brilliant in this and many movies) gives off a strange vibe. Though it is effective for his character I guess.
    3) The random acts of violence (the pumping station, "intuitive improvisation", the mine massacre, Tibbett and Lee's murders and more). Don't get me wrong I do enjoy some of these scenes, the massacre may be one of my favourites from the movie for it's sheer derangement, but in a lighthearted Moore movie they seem hyper-violent and out of place I guess.
    4) Bond bedding - or showering - Stacy after an almost father like relationship with her for the majority of their scenes together.
    5) All the horse stuff, in perspective, is pretty unrelated to the main plot and goes on for quite a bit. Plus, for some reason, the thought of surgery on animals by a sadistic Nazi doctor gives me the creeps.

    These are just my top five, there a plenty more, the whole movie just feels strange in one way or another. -{
    Then he looked again at Bond and spoke very quietly, the red moustache lifting slowly from the splayed upper teeth.
    "I should spend the money quickly, Commander Bond," he said.
    Then he turn away from the table and walked swiftly out of the room.
  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    My vote for weirest film goes to Moonraker.

    1. Obviously the whole space vibe is weird and out of place for a Bond film.
    2. Laser Guns. I mean really?
    3. Bond battles a giant snake.
    4. Q dresses up as a Mexican.
    5. Jaws falls in love.
    6. A gondola that can be driven onto the road?
    7. Double taking pigeons.

    The case rests your honour.
    Smiert Spionam
  • VandrellVandrell London, EnglandPosts: 324MI6 Agent
    My vote for weirest film goes to Moonraker.

    1. Obviously the whole space vibe is weird and out of place for a Bond film.
    2. Laser Guns. I mean really?
    3. Bond battles a giant snake.
    4. Q dresses up as a Mexican.
    5. Jaws falls in love.
    6. A gondola that can be driven onto the road?
    7. Double taking pigeons.

    The case rests your honour.

    Agreed. I think the whole film is just off. I cant even bear to buy it and have never owned it.
  • Sir_Hugo_DraxSir_Hugo_Drax Beneath the Flat Stone Posts: 40MI6 Agent
    I always thought Moonraker was just unconventional and a little silly at times but I never got a "weird vibe" from it. It still retained a Bond feel for the most part (all of the stuff on Earth). I guess I only feel the weird vibe when something that isn't quite Bondian is passed off as something Bondian; and while space and henchmen love stories aren't exactly 007, it's balanced with a set of grounded (excuse the pun) Bond elements. -{
    Then he looked again at Bond and spoke very quietly, the red moustache lifting slowly from the splayed upper teeth.
    "I should spend the money quickly, Commander Bond," he said.
    Then he turn away from the table and walked swiftly out of the room.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    I once saw it shortly after watching the odd conspiracy theory film The Parallax View, and then MR seemed weird, as it is in a way a bit eerie the way Bond runs into the same people all around the world, and he's the only one uncovering this dastardly genocide. There's nobody to back him up at all.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Yeah, in my eyes, Moonraker i never thought was weird, i thought DAF was weird coz it was different to all the other Connery's. TMWTGG was strange, weird vibe, and AVTAK is just plain awful
    “The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
    -Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
  • Mrs.BryceMrs.Bryce Posts: 139MI6 Agent
    I don't think any of the Bond movies are 'weird', I just think that some are more fantasy than others. Maybe it feels weird because you can't imagine it happening? I'm not really sure..
    Some had strange cut sequences or unexplained sequences but none were 'weird' in my opinion.
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
    I must admit, the first Bond film I saw as a kid, was one I didn't realsie was a Bond film the firsttime around. (Well I was only four!) However it had a lasting impact for its weirdness.

    LALD. Although in retrospect its fair to say not weird, as much as surreal. The Voodoo aspects that Dr Kananga uses to scare the natives and the inquisitive. Although the film reveals that Baron Samidi's abilities are technological (the exploding statue) as a wee squirt it stayed with me and scared me. - As an adult I see the film in a different light, and my only criticism of it now is no Q. But that closing sequence with the maniacal laugh at he front of the train, and the skulls on fire as the credits roll still gives me the creeps!

    DAF I'd say is outlandish, it doesn't feel part of the Connery era Bondverse. Having said that I like it except the writing make Tiffany look an airhead in the final third. Jill St John is amazing.

    Moonraker and DAD both suffer from Sci Fi overload syndrome. The tech and whiz bang concept overload the characters and they are left lost as a result, especially in the final big battles of both films. I always liked Moonraker regardless, because the Space Shuttles were real tech which was nice to see, and QoS has made me re-evaluate DAD. In spite of the tech overload, the actors all get at least one good scene each. Except poor Toby Stevens. Crying shame, he is damned good in other things I have seen him in!
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Toby Stevens is maggie Smith's son isn't he?
    I saw him in a poirot mystery, very good
    “The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
    -Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
  • sivapcsivapc Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    License to Kill.. too violent and personal. Like a sequel to one of 100 dies hard movies
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