Why is Bond carrying an antique. He is meant to be at the top of his game so he shold be carrying a modern weapon. Far too much looking back for what is meant to be a reboot.
Why is Bond carrying an antique. He is meant to be at the top of his game so he shold be carrying a modern weapon. Far too much looking back for what is meant to be a reboot.
Why is Bond carrying an antique. He is meant to be at the top of his game so he shold be carrying a modern weapon. Far too much looking back for what is meant to be a reboot.
Maybe he likes it?
Just want to use elements of the saga to let us know it's a James Bond movie?
I actually don't mind the PPK as much in the Craig-era movies, since the gun fights tend to be smaller and more intense than the massive machine-gun battles of the Brosnan-era, in which everyone seemed to have an MP-5, and Bond was plinking away with a subcompact.
What I am saying is that it is an ancient weapon, for a military intelligence of the most modern.
The Walther PPK is old for bond
You Imagine the police or soldier shooting or doing target practice with swords and arrows
What I am saying is that it is an ancient weapon, for a military intelligence of the most modern.
The Walther PPK is old for bond
You Imagine the police or soldier shooting or doing target practice with swords and arrows
Well, no. Actually it would be like a police or soldier using...a Walther PPK )
But as I said earlier, my first choce for Bond would be the PPS.
As mentioned earlier the PPK, like the DB5 is an intergral part of the Bond mystic. Once you take away all the "props" that makeup the "Bond" charecter, you might as well be watching a Bourne movie or a "Mission Impossible".
I say give the old PPK a break! It's not really out of print and it's still used in the world. Leave the fancy, multi-shooting plastic and stamped machine pistols to the villian, and enjoy James Bond for who he is, a "Gentleman Agent, with a license to kill".
I worry more over the quality of the script than what's in Bond's holster.
What I am saying is that it is an ancient weapon, for a military intelligence of the most modern.
The Walther PPK is old for bond
You Imagine the police or soldier shooting or doing target practice with swords and arrows
The PPK is highly deadly in the right hands. Like Bonds... One headshot is all that is needed for a trained assassin.
Watching the Sam Mendes videoblog, that shows Craig sneaking around with his PPK, the profile of that particular PPK looked to be that of a prewar/wartime version with its squarer "bulldog" snout rather than the smoother more curved postwar version. My own PPK (which was finicky at the range yesterday) is of 1935 vintage, so I tend to notice early PPKs.
Anybody agree or disagree?
Why is Bond carrying an antique. He is meant to be at the top of his game so he shold be carrying a modern weapon. Far too much looking back for what is meant to be a reboot.
He could carry the Sig-Sauer p232, which looks almost identical and is a modern weapon (and maybe Sig-Sauer would pay for its use in the film which Walther doesn't). If anybody asks why he switched he can say he was tired of having the back of his hand pinched by the slide.
Watching the Sam Mendes videoblog, that shows Craig sneaking around with his PPK, the profile of that particular PPK looked to be that of a prewar/wartime version with its squarer "bulldog" snout rather than the smoother more curved postwar version. My own PPK (which was finicky at the range yesterday) is of 1935 vintage, so I tend to notice early PPKs.
Anybody agree or disagree?
Regards,
Tecolote
The ppks used in GE, TND, QoS looked like they were after war models. 1956-
He certainly is in the still photo released as the first official photo(and in the London exterior shots), but when I paused the video and compared it to my own PPK
at various angles, I could get pretty much the same silhouette. I'm sure there is more than one PPK on the set.
As to the Sig P232, somewhere I read that it is actually used along with the bigger Sigs, by UKSF personnel.
Oh yes, I did get slide bite while shooting the PPK Sunday,albeit not as bad as usual.
He certainly is in the still photo released as the first official photo(and in the London exterior shots), but when I paused the video and compared it to my own PPK
at various angles, I could get pretty much the same silhouette. I'm sure there is more than one PPK on the set.
As to the Sig P232, somewhere I read that it is actually used along with the bigger Sigs, by UKSF personnel.
Oh yes, I did get slide bite while shooting the PPK Sunday,albeit not as bad as usual.
Regards,
Tecolote
I have a S&W licensed PPK/s with the extended backstrap to prevent slide bite. They get a bad rap, IMHO, as mine has been 100% reliable.
Not a fan of the Sig, though. That European-style magazine release means it takes two hands just to drop a mag.
I wanted bond to use the compact p99, modern and powerful as the full p99, but concealable and still elegant as the ppk. -{ If more ammo capacity is needed on a tougher situation. A full p99 magazine can be used with a grip extension. {:)
Someone shot dead with a PPK in 2012 is just as dead as someone shot dead with a P99, Sig, Glock or whatever.
Bond carries the PPK for personal protection, not a frontal assault on the Iron Coast. The P99 never made sense anyway IMO as a concealed weapon under a suit coat. It's a military sidearm / Police weapon not a hideaway. Are there better, more modern, more powerful small automatics these days.....of course. But if Bond is going to carry something small, it might as well be the iconic PPK.
These days for the "heavy lifting" Bond seems to go with bigger artillery anyway.....like the Browning Hi Power and HK MP45 in CR.
So maybe he'll pickup something a bit bigger along the way in "Skyfall" also.
I have been reading this with interest, PPK an antique don't make me laugh, I shoot a hundred year old design of a pistol ,a .45 1911 custom, a lot of special forces/ police SWAT etc still prefer it over any of the modern "plastic " designs.
I have carried three different pistols for personal protection, the Glock 17, Ruger Speed Six .357 magnum and the Walther PP in .380 ACP, my preferance for that job was the PP, light, easy to conceal and very accurate .
The PP works and is still in production yes the British military have moved to the Sig 226/8 but that does not mean that the PP does not have its place. Anyway it is the best looking pistol ever ,most of the modern stuff is just ugly.
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Just want to use elements of the saga to let us know it's a James Bond movie?
The Walther PPK is old for bond
You Imagine the police or soldier shooting or doing target practice with swords and arrows
Well, no. Actually it would be like a police or soldier using...a Walther PPK
But as I said earlier, my first choce for Bond would be the PPS.
I say give the old PPK a break! It's not really out of print and it's still used in the world. Leave the fancy, multi-shooting plastic and stamped machine pistols to the villian, and enjoy James Bond for who he is, a "Gentleman Agent, with a license to kill".
I worry more over the quality of the script than what's in Bond's holster.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
The PPK is highly deadly in the right hands. Like Bonds... One headshot is all that is needed for a trained assassin.
Anybody agree or disagree?
Regards,
Tecolote
He could carry the Sig-Sauer p232, which looks almost identical and is a modern weapon (and maybe Sig-Sauer would pay for its use in the film which Walther doesn't). If anybody asks why he switched he can say he was tired of having the back of his hand pinched by the slide.
The ppks used in GE, TND, QoS looked like they were after war models. 1956-
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
at various angles, I could get pretty much the same silhouette. I'm sure there is more than one PPK on the set.
As to the Sig P232, somewhere I read that it is actually used along with the bigger Sigs, by UKSF personnel.
Oh yes, I did get slide bite while shooting the PPK Sunday,albeit not as bad as usual.
Regards,
Tecolote
I have a S&W licensed PPK/s with the extended backstrap to prevent slide bite. They get a bad rap, IMHO, as mine has been 100% reliable.
Not a fan of the Sig, though. That European-style magazine release means it takes two hands just to drop a mag.
+1. Those .40s tend to malfunction a lot.
Bond carries the PPK for personal protection, not a frontal assault on the Iron Coast. The P99 never made sense anyway IMO as a concealed weapon under a suit coat. It's a military sidearm / Police weapon not a hideaway. Are there better, more modern, more powerful small automatics these days.....of course. But if Bond is going to carry something small, it might as well be the iconic PPK.
These days for the "heavy lifting" Bond seems to go with bigger artillery anyway.....like the Browning Hi Power and HK MP45 in CR.
So maybe he'll pickup something a bit bigger along the way in "Skyfall" also.
I have carried three different pistols for personal protection, the Glock 17, Ruger Speed Six .357 magnum and the Walther PP in .380 ACP, my preferance for that job was the PP, light, easy to conceal and very accurate .
The PP works and is still in production yes the British military have moved to the Sig 226/8 but that does not mean that the PP does not have its place. Anyway it is the best looking pistol ever ,most of the modern stuff is just ugly.