I have a serious question about Quantum of Solace and I need a serious

JohnMastersonJohnMasterson MinnesotaPosts: 326MI6 Agent
...Answer. Basically, I need to talk to someone who knows what the law is, in both the UK and North America. If the Bond producers had done something underhanded during the writer's strike, such as hiring a really talented aspiring writer to pen the second and final drafts of Quantum of Solace, would that have been against the law for the Bond producers to do so?

Is it against the law, to hire an aspiring writer during the writer's strike and just pay that writer in cash for services rendered, to keep his or her services off of the record books?
"Goodbye, my son. Our hopes and dreams travel with you." Jor-El ~ Man of Steel (2013)

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  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    ...Answer. Basically, I need to talk to someone who knows what the law is, in both the UK and North America. If the Bond producers had done something underhanded during the writer's strike, such as hiring a really talented aspiring writer to pen the second and final drafts of Quantum of Solace, would that have been against the law for the Bond producers to do so?

    Is it against the law, to hire an aspiring writer during the writer's strike and just pay that writer in cash for services rendered, to keep his or her services off of the record books?

    I don't know how exactly it ties into the laws, but I thought Craig said he and the director had to do a lot of writing because they weren't allowed to bring in any writer's to do the revisions during the strike and only he and the director had the clearance to submit writing input besides the writers (and I suppose a select few others). He said the lack of real writers left him with more stunts to fill time and less refreshing scripting due to much of the older draft having to be kept without anyone to help revise it that actually knew writing, unlike himself.

    So I assume they were not allowed to and the movie does feel a bit action heavy as he noted.

    But I assume you are needing a more in-depth and lawful answer.... :)
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    I'm not a lawyer, but I do know that in the U.S. there is nothing criminal about hiring others to work on a job while the union is on strike. However, unions call such workers "scabs" and when scabs are hired the unions usually double-down in negotiations with the place they're striking against.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
    Serious answer =

    Talk to your own Lawyer, and ask them if they can refer you to anyone who specialises in cases dealing with Entertainment and Literary Law to get clarity. The way the entertainment and performing arts laws work in the UK, are separate from the legal system for everything else. I suspect that Literally law, which would cover Scripts, Teleplays, etc as well, would also fall into that bracket. (Being in Equity helps you find out these things!)


    I hope this advice (such as it is) helps.
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • JohnMastersonJohnMasterson MinnesotaPosts: 326MI6 Agent
    Serious answer =

    Talk to your own Lawyer, and ask them if they can refer you to anyone who specialises in cases dealing with Entertainment and Literary Law to get clarity. The way the entertainment and performing arts laws work in the UK, are separate from the legal system for everything else. I suspect that Literally law, which would cover Scripts, Teleplays, etc as well, would also fall into that bracket. (Being in Equity helps you find out these things!)


    I hope this advice (such as it is) helps.


    I don't have a lawyer.
    "Goodbye, my son. Our hopes and dreams travel with you." Jor-El ~ Man of Steel (2013)
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Then you're in trouble! I am an attorney myself, but none of these are my areas of expertise. However, I do know that U.S laws regarding entertainment- related matters such as copyrights and propriety rights to scripts, books, articles, etc., can be pretty complicated. In addition, there could be some labor law issues involved if you are suggestng that the hiring of non-union writers to work on the script for Quantum of Solace potentially violated a collective bargaining agreement. The only way to get a reliable answer to your inquiry is to speak to someone who really knows the laws and legal issues involved.
    Serious answer =

    Talk to your own Lawyer, and ask them if they can refer you to anyone who specialises in cases dealing with Entertainment and Literary Law to get clarity. The way the entertainment and performing arts laws work in the UK, are separate from the legal system for everything else. I suspect that Literally law, which would cover Scripts, Teleplays, etc as well, would also fall into that bracket. (Being in Equity helps you find out these things!)


    I hope this advice (such as it is) helps.


    I don't have a lawyer.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    This is probably some usless advice but here goes.

    From my experience of business over a few years, Some people if they get the chance
    will screw you over. It's happened a couple of times to me. Luckily each time I've learned
    a little more about human nature and changed my work practice. In the end either it will
    end in a legal remedy which could be expensive and in the end unsatisfactory.
    I look upon things like this as a learning experience or part of my apprenticeship in
    business.
    I don't know your circumstances, so it might be easy for me to say. Learn from it and
    walk away. If rumors start that you jump at legal action at the start or begining of your
    career it may end up being more costly to you in the long term.
    On the other hand if a writer has done a good job ( perhaps in a slightly naughty way ).
    the next outing might be under contract with a credit etc. Which could lead to better things.
    Either way Good luck and I hope you get some satisfaction
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Also on finding out BL is a lawyer I'd like to withdraw my Ill advised joke
    about him proving he's not crazy, this was taken out of context.
    I'm sure he's a lovely man ( except for his liking of D Craig ) :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    How kind of you, TP. I'm not even sure what "ill advised joke" you're referring to, but I doubt that I was offended. But no lawyer jokes about me? Now I AM offended!!!! :))

    And you're right - I am a lovely man!
    Also on finding out BL is a lawyer I'd like to withdraw my Ill advised joke
    about him proving he's not crazy, this was taken out of context.
    I'm sure he's a lovely man ( except for his liking of D Craig ) :D
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    But no lawyer jokes about me? Now I AM offended!!!!

    Be careful what you wish for BL, :v :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Uh oh!
    But no lawyer jokes about me? Now I AM offended!!!!

    Be careful what you wish for BL, :v :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    Lawyers --> Sharks --> Leiter



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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Two Lawyers were walking out of a bar and a beautiful young woman walks by. One Lawyer turns to his friend and says
    "Boy, I would like to f**k her! The other Lawyer thinks for a second and said "Out of what" ? :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    That will be $500 please!
    Two Lawyers were walking out of a bar and a beautiful young woman walks by. One Lawyer turns to his friend and says
    "Boy, I would like to f**k her! The other Lawyer thinks for a second and said "Out of what" ? :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
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