Why am I finding Roger Moore's films more enjoyable??
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In the last year or so, i've been more inclined to watch Roger Moore's Bond more than any other. I'm finding his films a lot of fun to watch. Just saw Man with the Golden Gun. I had not seen that one in maybe 6 years and i had a blast watching it.
Considering that im a Connery and Craig fan, i find this a tad odd.
Is this strange? Were Moore's Bonds not the 'light' Bond?
Now i'm hoping that Skyfall doesnt take itself as serious as the previous two, so that it may be a little like those rollicking Moore films...of course this wont happen i'm sure...
Considering that im a Connery and Craig fan, i find this a tad odd.
Is this strange? Were Moore's Bonds not the 'light' Bond?
Now i'm hoping that Skyfall doesnt take itself as serious as the previous two, so that it may be a little like those rollicking Moore films...of course this wont happen i'm sure...
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As for Roger's Movies. I always regarded Moore's Bonds as if He was Errol Flynn Playing a secret agent.
I could imagine him throwing his head back and laughing ( almost slapping his thigh ) as he dispaches
some foul fiend. Mabey not popular with some here at AJB007, but the Public loved them and they
where Event Movies. Just as The Avengers, Iron man, Batman and Sherlock Holmes have become today.
On a side note I regard The Iron Man movies as the unofficial Bond movies, as he is always cracking
a one-liner, gets loads of girls, drives some lovely cars and Kicks the villians ass in an Over the top
spectacular fashion and has some cool gadgets.
What we need is a Rollicking, swashbuckling adventure over three continents, Some over the top villains
plotting the fall of the west, Some fast cars and even faster women, Jet packs , Big stunts and a Henchman
who looks like he could rip Bonds head off. With some sexy gypsy girls thrown in.
Sir Roger Bond was always a Big Star, It's only the Movies that have become smaller.
"FooYuck??!" - i fell out of my seat at this scene in Man with golden gun!
and how about him putting Goodnight in his closet so he could get to work on Scaramanga's girl?! priceless!
for some reason im very entertained by seeing Bond in these type of scenes. and Craig could do a good job i believe of doing similar stunts, he's got a goofy smile that would play right into the spirit of the scenes.
when i first saw iron man i thougth also that there were many Bond elements in it. being as popular as they are, maybe a Roger moore type Bond wouldnt be too farfetched of an idea.
in man with the golden gun, there was a scene with Bond in white tux giving a sumo wrestler a painful wedgie...pure hilarity yet totally acceptable! trully this must be the scene that inspired the Most Interesting man in the World!!
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All those scenes you mentioned, utter tripe. Craig and goofy smile go together like Joey Barton* and self-restraint.
* Thuggish English footballer, if you're really from Mexico.
I suppose the only thing you can say is that it's a film that can't disappoint when you know how crap it is. Why not watch NSNA if you're in that kind of mood.
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Napo,
Or Fergie and 'genuinely from the heart' compliments??
come on, you're not of the opinion that Craig has a 'handsome' smile are you??
long live Aguilas del America...
Tbf, we hardly see Craig smile ever so very hard to tell. Like watching the Loch Ness Monster dribble a basketball.
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But Man with the golden gun, sorry to disagree, was fabulous.
My advice would be to seek professional help :007)
Moore's Bond films are fun to watch or have going in the background. It's not really strange as the films have more of a travel log about them compared to the newer films. Honestly I would put all the older Bond films before the modern Bond films starting with Goldeneye. Would I watch Moore more than Connery? No. But there is no way I will watch Quantum of Solace or even Casino Royale more than The Spy Who Loved Me. It's not just because of the time of release either.
TMWTGG was my third Bond. It is the conclusion to the "Mankiewicz trilogy" with Tom Mankewicz's trademark snappy dialogue and devilishly clever wit. (Look at Superman (1978) too. He wound up writing it.)
I argue that Bond is like Batman, different ages=different approaches, but it's still our man. Moore is quite serviceable despite the increasing puns and humor through MR. Afterwards he starts looking a bit too old for the part and becomes increasingly limited.
Then again since age three I've been a massive Moore fan. And I prefer my Bond dark too. That doesn't mean that I can't enjoy a lighter romp once in a while...yes I own and like Crossplot.
this is true, Rog seems to be in a lot more exoctic locales, cant think of any other Bond going to India or Egypt as much.
anyways, went straight to my Bond stash last night again, and again pulled out For your eyes only. great film.
another thing that's happened is that ive lost all interest in Brosnan's Bond...which is not a good thing because those films have a lot of great material, just not inclined to go back to them.
* I actually watched Police Acadamy the other night and it was hilarious. Ok, they made too many and I hadn't seen the first one since I was a teen, but I laughed myself stupid and loved it! Life's been very stressful and hard lately, perhaps I just needed to lose myself and not have to concentrate too much.
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times are tough and some good fun is welcomed right now.
someone should write a new Bond story with Roger Moore Bond in mind. (or stories...)
Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes have both said there will be more humour in Skyfall. However, Mendes has also indicated that Bond will be suffering from depression (or something like it) in part of the film. Hardly a barrel of laughs. We will just have to wait and see on that.
If you are looking for a Bond film in terms of spectacle, action, fun, that has the right balance between fantasy and reality, humour and seriousness, look no further than The Spy Who Loved Me. This should be the template for Bond 24. The key though is that it has to be well written (with Daniel Craig or his successor in mind) and well executed. If not, you end up with something like Die Another Day.
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spy who loved me, interestingly i havent seen that one in a couple as i dont own it yet. that will be the first thing i do this evening, is it on blue ray yet??
Die another day... i absolutely loved that one when it first came out, its actually not too bad but Brosnan seems to not be in on the 'joke' so to speak and the attitude drags down the film. Of course, Brosnan never considered his Bonds to be 'light'.
Well said. Why would anyone want an imitation of a sub-par actor in the role he runied?
The Moore era solidified public perception that James Bond movies were juvenile comedies. I am well aware that the silliness started before Roger pranced onto the scene, but the entire tone of the movies was became lighter and lighter with Moore stinking up the screen. Even For Your Eyes Only, one of the more serious Moore cartoon was nominated for Best Comedy Adapted from Another Medium by the Writers Guild of America. Moore was never believable as either a threat to the villain or an object of desire for the ladies. His portrayal was more Austin Powers than James Bond.
The movies may have made money, but the producers lowered their standards to put such dreck on movie screens. I never buy into the premise that his movies were right for the times. Bond movies originally set trends. From YOLT forward, they followed trends. Keeping Moore in the role was liking slipping on a pair of comfortable shoes. You know you can get something better, but it's easier to keep the old ones until they wear out.
A return to that style of Bond movie would be a serious mistake.
and i doubt much that they would not (remember die another day, inferior to the Moore films)
but it would require a brave team to take on that direction for Bond.
i give u that he wasnt the most menacing figure but
as i understand it too, women like a confident man, and Rog seemed plenty confident in all those movies, in fact i would say more confident than this successor Timothy. Timothy always seemed to be looking over his shoulder...
His confidence, as you call it came, from the fact that the Moore movies had the character walking through the entire series like a maiden aunt coming for tea. The moviews were on autopilot and Moore was just plugged into them. He brought nothing to the role that any laterr actor would want to incorporate into his portrayal. Raised eyebrows and mugging for the camera is not what the character should be.
This is all I am going to say about this. I could write volumes about Moore and his shortcomings, but I already have a full time career.
Could not agree more. Don't blame Rog himself overly as for me he was miscast from the get go. It was lazy film making and ever decreasing standards (apart from LALD which I prefer to DAF)
For me as soon as Saltzman was no longer involved it went down hill fast. The real crime was sticking with Rog for so long. To his credit he kept trying to leave, but they just kept offering more and more money to stay such was there crippling lack of confidence and desire to just keep the cash machine churning out garbage.
Even the usual suspects trotted out as serious attempts at a Bond movie are cringeworthy. Blaming the ' jolly Roger' is just shooting the messenger though.
Stepping out of my ridiculous and poorly thought-out analogy, I think that everything with the Moore films was very complacent and got a little lazy. Each installment up to For Your Eyes Only got more and more silly ending up with Bond in space. The series did then turn a little more serious for one film and then with Octopussy it reverted to form. Interestingly, For Your Eyes Only was the first Moore film to take less at the box office than it's predecessor (if I remember correctly) so that could be the reason for reverting back to the silly japes.
Personally, I do like the Moore films. I fully appreciate that they are a somewhat divisive, particularly among Bond fans, but I do enjoy them. I think with most of them it the case that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. There are some wonderful moments in there though:
Drax: You missed, Mr. Bond.
Bond: Did I?
I don't think any Moore film would ever top my favourite Bond film list but I refute the notion that they are completely without merit or substance.
It is, of course, all subjective; but that is my take on the Moore films.
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For other fans, understandably, it's the silliest moment that undoes it, and they can't think their way around a double-take pidgeon or Jaws girlfriend moment (mind you, the urine sample in NSNA takes some beating too by that count).
For me, the more serious movies can be undone by silly stuff, or not-quite-right stuff, as you get in FYEO, TLD, CR and so on, it's like the bar is set higher. It's a different criteria.
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